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  • #41
  • Nov 19, 2012 12:43am Nov 19, 2012 12:43am
Susie my next door neighnor is bery cute but my wife warned me that if I give her my holy grail she will kill me.
  • #42
  • Nov 19, 2012 1:00am Nov 19, 2012 1:00am
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
1) I don't believe that one bit! I believe the more one method is traded, the more it works.

Until it doesn't of course. But I've never seen that happen before.

All the powerful 2) EMAs still work, 3) divergence still works, 4) ichimoku cloud still works, 5) PRICE ACTION STILL WORKS (6) candles)

7) tons of very powerful indicators work, and i believe they only work because a) they happen to coincide with big players orders, or b) big players...
1) The opposite is true
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) Sometime
6) No
7) Very few - probably none.
  • #43
  • Nov 23, 2012 9:39am Nov 23, 2012 9:39am
Quoting Ishtana
Holy Grail in Forex has been found. No doubt. Both manually and automatically. Manually, I've seen someone giving signals for more than 10 trades with 100% accuracy
I also have 100% accuracy, but 2 times better, on 20 trades!
Thats on the 37 429 trades I did in total.
Seriously guys whats wrong these new threads?
If you aim for the stars- but miss, you still get the moon...
  • #44
  • Dec 3, 2012 1:07pm Dec 3, 2012 1:07pm
Of course there is no holy grail, but does have a good strategy and system. Please accept that trading has lose and win.

I think most traders like to look for indicators to be his/her reference for trading entry and exit. This is completely wrong. Indicators are used to filter something and it's not for prediction. So it's absolute won't work and all lagging.

Price is not random and it has certain pattern and motions. Your eyes is a cheater because we are too relying our sense. If you want to know the real movement of price, please open your Renko chart to check. Lucky Japanese invent this tool to filter noise and provide a good explanation for trend.

I realize trading just requires 2 references with logic and fact, is trend and support resistance. Both are the absolute and correct indication because price definitely will shift from one area to another area. Price will never stay at the same corner. Once it has been shifted, high and low, wave and trend are formed. No matter what strategy system to be created, it requires these reference. Do not search for any software or indicator to match price formation. It won't work forever.

Some traders use indicator to fix his/her trading reference, it would work only if price repeats most of time coincide with this reference. Or discipline your trading method is the important key for this method works.

Thanks.
  • #45
  • Dec 3, 2012 2:06pm Dec 3, 2012 2:06pm
Forex Holy Grail. Right here!
Not all sins are created equal
  • #46
  • Dec 3, 2012 2:51pm Dec 3, 2012 2:51pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Forex Holy Grail. Right here!
Every time I have a losing month, I replace my bathroom mirror.
Gotta be careful that I don't break the mirror, though, or the next 7 years will be losing ones.
  • #47
  • Dec 3, 2012 2:53pm Dec 3, 2012 2:53pm
Quoting hanover
Every time I have a losing month, I replace my bathroom mirror.
Gotta be careful that I don't break the mirror, though, or the next 7 years will be losing ones.
Not true. It's 7 years of bad sex. What would you rather have?

Why the f@#k are you a commercial member now? Whatcha peddlin' partner? Email me using the link below if you don't want to tell the story in public.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #48
  • Dec 3, 2012 2:58pm Dec 3, 2012 2:58pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Not true. It's 7 years of bad sex. What would you rather have?
7 years of lost income, or 7 years of lost sex.........

I think Dredding82's signature explains it well: You Will Always Lose Money Chasing Women, But You Will Never Lose Women Chasing Money!!
  • #49
  • Dec 3, 2012 3:04pm Dec 3, 2012 3:04pm
Quoting hanover
7 years of lost income, or 7 years of lost sex.........

I think Dredding82's signature explains it well: You Will Always Lose Money Chasing Women, But You Will Never Lose Women Chasing Money!!
I disagree with that. I have lost a woman chasing money.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #50
  • Dec 3, 2012 3:04pm Dec 3, 2012 3:04pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Not true. It's 7 years of bad sex. What would you rather have?

Why the f@#k are you a commercial member now? Whatcha peddlin' partner? Email me using the link below if you don't want to tell the story in public.
It's no big secret that I've been selling a visual order management system for MT4. Not hard to find if you look in the commercial section.

Incidentally, people have asked why I'm still allowed to post in the non-commercial areas. I don't know. The only clue I have is in this post.
  • #51
  • Dec 3, 2012 3:20pm Dec 3, 2012 3:20pm
Quoting hanover
It's no big secret that I've been selling a visual order management system for MT4. Not hard to find if you look in the commercial section.

Incidentally, people have asked why I'm still allowed to post in the non-commercial areas. I don't know. The only clue I have is in this post.
I don't follow the commercial section. I just drop a massive deuce on threads from obvious scammers.

PM sent. I want to know more about this.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #52
  • Dec 3, 2012 4:39pm Dec 3, 2012 4:39pm
Quoting Jay Walker
I disagree with that. I have lost a woman chasing money.
Me too.. and the real kick in the pants is such girls that don't care for fine living are usually the ones you want to keep around in the long run. (They stick around if things get bad, since they care about you more than what your job provides.)
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  • #53
  • Dec 3, 2012 5:02pm Dec 3, 2012 5:02pm
Um, I was just indulging in some frivolous "boys will be boys" banter. I've been happily married for more than 12 years. It might be possible to buy sex, and perhaps some women admire wealth, but I don't see that as genuine love.

@Jay: you do a GREAT job (IMHO) in helping to keep the forum free of scammers. Optn Trader being a recent case in point.
  • #54
  • Dec 3, 2012 5:35pm Dec 3, 2012 5:35pm
Quoting hanover
Um, I was just indulging in some frivolous "boys will be boys" banter. I've been happily married for more than 12 years. It might be possible to buy sex, and perhaps some women admire wealth, but I don't see that as genuine love.

@Jay: you do a GREAT job (IMHO) in helping to keep the forum free of scammers. Optn Trader being a recent case in point.
Oh I'm not done with that little C_U_Next_Tuesday. He will reappear that I'm sure of.

It's because I don't have the time because his site would go down.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #55
  • Dec 3, 2012 9:40pm Dec 3, 2012 9:40pm
Quoting Turveyd
hanover is right, it's future order flow, you can't predict if Joe Blogs is going to put 1bil lot size then 5 seconds later dump it at a small 1pip loss or any other variable.

But as most of the order flow is automated, Joe Blogs tells a computer to stealth buy 1bil lot size slowly then the computer system effectively creates momentum which is exploitable, or how ever the system is programmed to fill it's order.

People also move the market ofcourse, but if the market runs into a level strong and stalls followed by reversing the only answer...
The first decent post i have read by you.... OMG well done.
The best indicator is price.
  • #56
  • Dec 14, 2012 4:16am Dec 14, 2012 4:16am
Quoting Ishtana
The Holy Grail has been found, or at least a few of you have found a very profitable trading system. The question is: why are you not sharing it with anyone?

First blatantly obvious answer is that you've spent tens of years finding it and developing it and feel it is too valuable to share. That's only fair and you have every right to enjoy the fruit of your labor.

My first thought is that, don't you think if majority of people are using your system, the system becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy?
The Holy Grail is allready self-fulfilling prophecy. If not, then it is not The Holy Grail.
  • #57
  • Dec 14, 2012 4:36am Dec 14, 2012 4:36am
To find Holy Grail in forex, you need to find one thing in forex that will never change.
  • #58
  • Dec 14, 2012 9:12am Dec 14, 2012 9:12am
Quoting juhanimi
To find Holy Grail in forex, you need to find one thing in forex that will never change.
i second that. Markets change volatility, technology can change, but the principle of why markets move will never change imo.
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  • #59
  • Dec 14, 2012 10:06am Dec 14, 2012 10:06am
Quoting juhanimi
To find Holy Grail in forex, you need to find one thing in forex that will never change.
Fluctuation. Fluctuation will never change.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #60
  • Dec 14, 2012 10:25am Dec 14, 2012 10:25am
Quoting Jay Walker
Fluctuation. Fluctuation will never change.
Yes, that is true, price moves in waves.
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