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  • Nov 7, 2012 10:20pm Nov 7, 2012 10:20pm
  •  calderone
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First, what is going on with the forum. Has it been downgraded? Really irritating. Anyway, great information being shared by some pros, when I have more time I will post something of substance. Keep up the good work, I believe this is one of the best threads in the forum.

Next time I will share a chart.
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  • Nov 8, 2012 11:09am Nov 8, 2012 11:09am
  •  Forexgogo
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I'm so stuck in EU...
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  • Nov 8, 2012 12:25pm Nov 8, 2012 12:25pm
  •  Skynet
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Quoting shahab8b
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Here is my conceptual framework and identification of major trend cycle which indicates what trading method you should adapt to get the best result in various market conditions.
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hmmm.....if you dont mind, can i call it left(side side) vs right(right side)....i have a question:what if your situation on the left(trend reversal patterns, consolidatation...etc)...is situated in the middle of a major trend(right side)?

For trend reversal, i look for a 1,2,3 formation on the daily...followed by a breakout, retest, continuation.... that works for me.

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Here is an example of daily trend cycles on Gold
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thanks. i appreciate this. the thorough breakdown.

so, you use the indicator to filter trend reversal? any reason you do not use the CCI? i am not a big student of indicator myself...however, hanover wrote some solid stuff on it.

p.s. to be honest, i have nothing much to add, really. your depiction is soo crystal clear.

thanks,

respectfully,

skynet
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2012 5:18pm Nov 8, 2012 5:18pm
  •  Forexgogo
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I'm so stuck in EU...
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I'm pulling my hair out!
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  •  shahab8b
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Quoting TradeYourEdg
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Hi shahab8b,

Hope you don't mind me asking.

Price would often re-test the trendline but your SL is pretty tight/low. Is that because you don't expect price to retest the trendline after such a big move from Kiwi?
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It usually does. But as you mentioned the fall was far below the TL, I didn't expect that to be re-tested. The SL was chosen based on RRR and above fib 61, which I would have considered it a failed trade if it had been touched. Now that the price has dropped, the SL is moved much tighter.
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  •  shahab8b
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Quoting Forexgogo
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I'm pulling my hair out!
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You need to differentiate between a counter trend and a trend following trade. Your EU trade we a counter trend trade, nothing is wrong with that, but you need to get your setup right.
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  • Nov 8, 2012 6:27pm Nov 8, 2012 6:27pm
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Quoting Skynet
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hmmm.....if you dont mind, can i call it left(side side) vs right(right side)....i have a question:what if your situation on the left(trend reversal patterns, consolidatation...etc)...is situated in the middle of a major trend(right side)?

For trend reversal, i look for a 1,2,3 formation on the daily...followed by a breakout, retest, continuation.... that works for me.



thanks. i appreciate this. the thorough breakdown.

so, you use the indicator to filter trend reversal? any reason you do not use the CCI? i am not a big student...
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Hi skynet,

I think of that more like cycles that follow each others repeatedly. You can have a consolidation anywhere, mostly after you got your established trend, but that's not always the case. The point I wanted to make here was when you recognize your cycle, you should pick the right trading method. For instance, we all know trend following methods will kill you in a range/irregular market or a method solely based on S/R levels will fail when you have a fast trending market with vertical move. So the approach is to 1)identify the market condition (based on the trend cycles I suggested here) 2) to chose the right trade method. Hope it helps.
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2012 6:31pm Nov 8, 2012 6:31pm
  •  Forexgogo
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Quoting shahab8b
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You need to differentiate between a counter trend and a trend following trade. Your EU trade we a counter trend trade, nothing is wrong with that, but you need to get your setup right.
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Yes, sir. I completely misread. 4H divergence blinded me....
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2012 6:32pm Nov 8, 2012 6:32pm
  •  shahab8b
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Quoting gino32
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This report contains: Econometric, Technical, cyclical fundamental and order flow analysis.

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Made by Gino

(Anyone who wants this report via email, just send me an email to
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[b][font=&quot]Guys any doubts or questions will be solved on Weekend. I will make a FAQ with any questions...
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Hi there,
You may want to correct some parts, like the one you are talking about the MACD divergence which is not right. The divergence between the price and an oscillator/indicator by definition is when there is discordancy between the price and oscillator/indicator.
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2012 6:44pm Nov 8, 2012 6:44pm
  •  shahab8b
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Quoting Forexgogo
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Yes, sir. I completely misread. 4H divergence blinded me....
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Divergence trading is my fav. I'm giving an example on UCHF: 1) identify div in the bigger TF (here daily) 2)trade on the smaller TF (here 4hr)
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  • Nov 8, 2012 7:58pm Nov 8, 2012 7:58pm
  •  TradeYourEdg
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Quoting shahab8b
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Hi,
It usually does. But as you mentioned the fall was far below the TL, I didn't expect that to be re-tested. The SL was chosen based on RRR and above fib 61, which I would have considered it a failed trade if it had been touched. Now that the price has dropped, the SL is moved much tighter.
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Hi shahab8b,

And the new stop is based on the previous 23.6 Fib level? Or did you just pick a (apprx) 20pip stop?

RRR = Reward Risk Ratio?

Ps sorry for the constant questions. Just trying to understand the logic of your stop loss management
Know Your Trading Edge and Trade It
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2012 8:14pm Nov 8, 2012 8:14pm
  •  TradeYourEdg
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Quoting shahab8b
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Divergence trading is my fav. I'm giving an example on UCHF: 1) identify div in the bigger TF (here daily) 2)trade on the smaller TF (here 4hr)
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Nice example.

ps. sorry, bias here cause I took a similar set up on USDSGD (on the 4hr).
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  • Nov 9, 2012 6:02am Nov 9, 2012 6:02am
  •  Forexgogo
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Quoting shahab8b
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Divergence trading is my fav. I'm giving an example on UCHF: 1) identify div in the bigger TF (here daily) 2)trade on the smaller TF (here 4hr)
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Master shahab8b

These are the most significant charts that I've seen this year in terms of utilizing fibs.
Using fibs on lower TFs, I can find safe entry points in divergence tradings that in many cases are the counter-trend trading.

I'm very fortunate that I started following this thread!!
Thank you very much!
 
 
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  • Nov 9, 2012 8:06am Nov 9, 2012 8:06am
  •  Skynet
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: Hunter / Killer | 849 Posts
thanks. i understand what you are saying. cool.


Quoting shahab8b
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Hi skynet,

I think of that more like cycles that follow each others repeatedly. You can have a consolidation anywhere, mostly after you got your established trend, but that's not always the case. The point I wanted to make here was when you recognize your cycle, you should pick the right trading method. For instance, we all know trend following methods will kill you in a range/irregular market or a method solely based on S/R levels will fail when you have a fast trending market with vertical move. So the approach is to 1)identify the market condition...
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" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
 
 
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  • Nov 9, 2012 12:32pm Nov 9, 2012 12:32pm
  •  Forexgogo
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confluence, confluence, confluence...
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  • Nov 9, 2012 1:42pm Nov 9, 2012 1:42pm
  •  Forexgogo
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confluence, confluence, confluence...
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Hit SL -15
Have a great weekend!!
 
 
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  • Nov 10, 2012 1:12am Nov 10, 2012 1:12am
  •  alex4xes
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 106 Posts
Hey there,

Good trades, good examples & good advices from good traders, Super thread, keep it up guys. Here is one trade that I closed with 140 pips in gold long, now I have reversed the position into short which is +75 pips & I will reverse again to long once it reaches to 1720 level. I will upload my sell trade later today as I have to search for the screen shot I took, in the mean time have took for my long trade...
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  • Nov 10, 2012 11:24am Nov 10, 2012 11:24am
  •  shahab8b
  • Joined Jul 2009 | Status: The Alchemist | 8,917 Posts
Quoting TradeYourEdg
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Hi shahab8b,

And the new stop is based on the previous 23.6 Fib level? Or did you just pick a (apprx) 20pip stop?

RRR = Reward Risk Ratio?

Ps sorry for the constant questions. Just trying to understand the logic of your stop loss management
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I usually choose my SL based on either Standard Deviation of the trading TF or above/below certain S/R levels.
 
 
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confluence, confluence, confluence...
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You're getting there.
 
 
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