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  • #5,161
  • Oct 7, 2012 7:19am Oct 7, 2012 7:19am
In the begining was a sound. Sound produce rhythm... Rhythm was so cool, so God say - Let the musiiiic be..! So folks, let's groove with dance of the planets /or swing with money markets

Planet Sounds for US Currency
2 April 1792, 12:00, New York, New York
Time Zone 0 hours West, Latitude: 40 N 31 23, Longitude: 74 W 00 23

A planetary orbit is an ellipse, and if the planet is considered to be
like a vibrating string, then the speed of a planet at any given moment
determines the frequency of the planetary sound. These "sounds", however,
are many octaves below the audible range. The listing below is created
by raising the sound frequency by octaves until the frequency is between
440 and 880 cycles per second. The frequency, the number of octaves
difference between the planetary speed and this note, and the corresponding
nearest note are given. A note that is 50% above D, for example, is
half-way between the notes D and D#.

Ura frequency = 452, note is 48% above A , octaves = 22
Mer frequency = 458, note is 72% above A , octaves = 15
Sat frequency = 470, note is 15% above A#, octaves = 19
Sun frequency = 483, note is 63% above A#, octaves = 16
Jup frequency = 495, note is 4% above B , octaves = 19
Nep frequency = 568, note is 44% above C#, octaves = 21
Moo frequency = 612, note is 74% above D , octaves = 12
Plu frequency = 735, note is 90% above F , octaves = 21
Ven frequency = 785, note is 2% above G , octaves = 15
Mar frequency = 794, note is 22% above G , octaves = 17

This report was made with Kepler astrosoftware.
Cheers
  • #5,162
  • Edited 8:55am Oct 7, 2012 8:08am | Edited 8:55am
Cycles are occuring when the markets are closed, so when you omit the weekend and holidays you shrink that period of time.

You will see that if you put a fixed cycle chart on a chart you do not come to the same period, because of this your cycle any cycle will be correct only if you do this.

A far better way to study cycles is to use a linear reference point that accounts for the weekend, every 4 years we have an adjustment a leap year, so this will knock any 4 year cycle out by 1 day.

Cycles are exact, to the day brokers charts are not, its a shame I cannot chose the scale on the bottom of my chart to be something like solar degrees as this is a constant measure of time, although I am sure this varies as the sun progresses round the solar system.

Time is something that needs to be exact and man made time is not.

Hope this helps


Mike Haran

I checked this out and indeed the day length vary, as the earth follows an elliptical orbit days compress and expand it changes by about 8 minutes accross the year
  • #5,163
  • Oct 7, 2012 10:11am Oct 7, 2012 10:11am
I little tested a phenomena which i saw in one book of Jeanne Long for EUR/USD market and it looks promising... Sell when Jupiter complete a 24 degrees tour around universal clock and buy when Mars complete a tour... (When planet passing from 24 to 25 degrees, 48 to 49 degrees and so on)

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22287487/UniversalClock.jpg
http://imageplay.net/img/tya22287488/MarsJupiter.jpg
  • #5,164
  • Oct 7, 2012 7:23pm Oct 7, 2012 7:23pm
awesome stuff Almond!! I love how scientific and analytical you are with this stuff. It really helps me believe that there is something to it, as there are numbers to back it up rather than the traditional "this guy says when planet X is in Sign Y we should see Z result" that is so rampant in much of astrotrading analysis.... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
  • #5,165
  • Oct 9, 2012 12:57pm Oct 9, 2012 12:57pm
Hey guys wonderful thread... I'm starting to study Gann and Astrology...wanted to ask...Which program is that one from Almondeyed? Thanks. Hope to usefully partecipate here.
  • #5,166
  • Oct 10, 2012 1:37am Oct 10, 2012 1:37am
Quoting GiuFab
Hey guys wonderful thread... I'm starting to study Gann and Astrology...wanted to ask...Which program is that one from Almondeyed? Thanks. Hope to usefully partecipate here.
Artem gives it a way for free.:

http://files.mail.ru/ATWOTP

or just google ganzilla
  • #5,167
  • Oct 10, 2012 7:30am Oct 10, 2012 7:30am
I'm thankful to you but I'm having issues in getting the programme working...I extract, click on the exe and it says there's an error...tried with different versions but.... It's not the first time I try to use a Gann based software and I've never been able to do it. Also with Gannalyst I can't find a csv file working( problem with date format...)...uff........
  • #5,168
  • Oct 10, 2012 8:11am Oct 10, 2012 8:11am
One thing to keep in mind about musical scales is that any series of notes regardless of number notes and ratio between notes can technically be a scale. So it's important to have a better understanding of some musical theory. Most people, and especially when I see a musical scale applied to trading are talking about the diatonic scale. Do Re Mi, etc. In my opinion, the more important scale to pay attention to is the Pentatonic scale. All other scale or nodes that revolve around the Diatonic can be fit around the Pentatonic scale by adding notes. It's like the framework on which all other western scales are based. And if you play guitar, it's the foundation for just about 80% of the guitar solos out there.

Applying the Pentatonic scale to astro is a great study and yields a lot of interesting results.
  • #5,169
  • Oct 11, 2012 2:07am Oct 11, 2012 2:07am
From wikipedia, the circle of fifths
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  • #5,170
  • Oct 11, 2012 2:11am Oct 11, 2012 2:11am
A nice read to follow up on the music of the spheres

http://www.articlesfactory.com/artic...e-spheres.html
  • #5,171
  • Oct 11, 2012 2:17pm Oct 11, 2012 2:17pm
http://imageplay.net/img/tya22288030/aspect.gif

Saturn trine Neptune and at exact aspect time, price conjuncted with Neptune too. Saturn and Neptune lines activated.:nerd:
  • #5,172
  • Oct 16, 2012 10:02am Oct 16, 2012 10:02am
Quoting Almondeyed
http://imageplay.net/img/tya22288030/aspect.gif

Saturn trine Neptune and at exact aspect time, price conjuncted with Neptune too. Saturn and Neptune lines activated.:nerd:
Almond?
What price format are you using to get the saturn line?
Are you using it on the sq9 or another master chart?

For sq9, I have tried 12946,1294.6, 129462, 129.46 and cant get 211 degrees or even a square or opposition to 211 degrees

THANKS
  • #5,173
  • Oct 17, 2012 12:53am Oct 17, 2012 12:53am
Quoting Dolemite
Almond?
What price format are you using to get the saturn line?
Are you using it on the sq9 or another master chart?

For sq9, I have tried 12946,1294.6, 129462, 129.46 and cant get 211 degrees or even a square or opposition to 211 degrees

THANKS
If i don't remember wrong I got those planetary lines from the post below in this forum... .

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post5658471

These are natal lines.. But because these two planets were in action, i assumed that natal lines were activated..

About Master Chart i used circle chart below... For example we are now somewhere between Leo & Virgo, just opposition of Neptune...

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22288674/CircleChart.jpg
  • #5,174
  • Oct 18, 2012 9:55am Oct 18, 2012 9:55am
Thank you for the response
I am trying to derive why Saturn = 1.29462
I looked at geocentric saturn natal (26-27 degrees) and helio (32-33 degrees)
However I cant understand how that relates to 1.29462 using any method of price-longitude conversion that I am aware of.
Any idea how Hades' template does that conversion?
I am trying to get to the bottom of why on his template Saturn = 1.29462

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this!!!

Dolemite

Quoting Almondeyed
If i don't remember wrong I got those planetary lines from the post below in this forum... .

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post5658471

These are natal lines.. But because these two planets were in action, i assumed that natal lines were activated..

About Master Chart i used circle chart below... For example we are now somewhere between Leo & Virgo, just opposition of Neptune...

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22288674/CircleChart.jpg
  • #5,175
  • Oct 18, 2012 9:26pm Oct 18, 2012 9:26pm
Quoting Dolemite
Thank you for the response
I am trying to derive why Saturn = 1.29462
I looked at geocentric saturn natal (26-27 degrees) and helio (32-33 degrees)
However I cant understand how that relates to 1.29462 using any method of price-longitude conversion that I am aware of.
Any idea how Hades' template does that conversion?
I am trying to get to the bottom of why on his template Saturn = 1.29462

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this!!!

Dolemite
Hade's horizontal lines are planetary longitudes of their natal position, ie the first day of trade or the birth of a currency, then multiplied with harmonics up and down fitting to a currency's decimal scale.
  • #5,176
  • Oct 18, 2012 10:15pm Oct 18, 2012 10:15pm
Quoting Oshawa
Hade's horizontal lines are planetary longitudes of their natal position, ie the first day of trade or the birth of a currency, then multiplied with harmonics up and down fitting to a currency's decimal scale.
Right, like I said I got the geocentric and heliocentric position of Saturn on natal. Curious about the math of how to convert longitude to price, as the way I have always used, using square of 9 doesn't seem to line up w Hades lines.

Thanks.
  • #5,177
  • Oct 19, 2012 1:18am Oct 19, 2012 1:18am
at the moment... the way I chart it.
  • #5,178
  • Oct 19, 2012 4:02am Oct 19, 2012 4:02am
Quoting Dolemite
Thank you for the response
I am trying to derive why Saturn = 1.29462
I looked at geocentric saturn natal (26-27 degrees) and helio (32-33 degrees)
However I cant understand how that relates to 1.29462 using any method of price-longitude conversion that I am aware of.
Any idea how Hades' template does that conversion?
I am trying to get to the bottom of why on his template Saturn = 1.29462

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this!!!

Dolemite

Hi Dolemite,
I use natal date for euro first trade - 4.Jan.1999, Frankfurt am Main. Saturn was on ~26 Ari 48'. In decimal value it should look like 26.80, multiplied by 11 is 294.80 or 1.29480 or 2.9480, or 0.2948 ... this result i get in ms excel, then save in .csv file, so script which i use, can plot those levels on chart... Strange, but mt4 plot as price 1.29458 in info window or 1.29462 on price scale... wtf!?!! I don't have an idea why this happens .. may be csv r/w conversion error or something from above?!... However, you can use a gann style to find lines... in this example -Saturn ~26Ari48`=26.80 -> 360+26.80=386.80; 720+26.80=740.80 .... 8*360+26.80=2906.8; it can be also 2.9068;1.29068;0.29068 etc... Soon i'll post a template, i wich we can see divergence and convergence between lines, calculated in Gann style, or just multiplied by.. It looks very interesting!

Best regards!
  • #5,179
  • Edited Oct 20, 2012 6:48am Oct 19, 2012 8:15am | Edited Oct 20, 2012 6:48am
Yeah! Set the controls to the heart of the Sun! Here is a (rough) template with Sun lines (Only) for USD (02 Apr 1792, 12:00h LMT, New York, New York). What is in ... Three types of planetary S/R lines - USDRadix, USD Gann, USDfib, wich marks the way they are calculated. So, USDRadix lines is for position of the Sun in USD natal chart, converted in decimal value and multiplied by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ... etc.60. USD Gann lines marks levels calculated by (360*n + decimal position of the Sun), where n=1, 2, 3 ... n=60. USDfib lines is again natal position of the Sun in usd chart multiplied by fibo numbers - 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34 etc... Calculated values are huge, so we need to get them in way we can use it, so div by 10000 or 100000. I decided to plot more lines between 1.xxxx ~ 2.xxxx range, but there are some control lines below 1.00. There is also vertical lines, wich marks major aspects of the transiting Sun or outer planets to natal Sun, so you can track, check and study them. The template is suitable with eurusd and gbpusd. It illustrates an idea of mine - what if ...?! so here is the result. I think so other minds too, have been curious for results of similar experiments, so try and comment, let's make this $h*t better!
Thanks!
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File Type: tpl usd sun lines updated.tpl   73 KB | 521 downloads
  • #5,180
  • Oct 19, 2012 9:01am Oct 19, 2012 9:01am
Quoting Hades
Hi Dolemite,
I use natal date for euro first trade - 4.Jan.1999, Frankfurt am Main. Saturn was on ~26 Ari 48'. In decimal value it should look like 26.80, multiplied by 11 is 294.80 or 1.29480 or 2.9480, or 0.2948 ... this result i get in ms excel, then save in .csv file, so script which i use, can plot those levels on chart... Strange, but mt4 plot as price 1.29458 in info window or 1.29462 on price scale... wtf!?!! I don't have an idea why this happens .. may be csv r/w conversion error or something from above?!... However, you can use a gann...
Thank you for the detailed response Hades. I appreciate it. Curious why you use 11 as a multiplier once you have gotten the degrees into decimal form? I have never seen that technique anywhere before?
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