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  • #33,201
  • Sep 20, 2012 3:15pm Sep 20, 2012 3:15pm
Quoting chonchy
.......Nice post roro.....
thanks, man........who knows, but unlimited printing?

deep dark hole imo......there has to be consequences for it eventually

kocherlakota is saying the fed can keep rates excep low until unemployment falls below 5.5%......i guess that is forever in relative terms

http://www.minneapolisfed.org/news_e...=4952&ref=none

why not just go all in and make everyone a millionaire by printing wealth?
  • #33,202
  • Sep 20, 2012 3:17pm Sep 20, 2012 3:17pm
Quoting roro53
thanks, man........who knows, but unlimited printing?

deep dark hole imo......there has to be consequences for it eventually

kocherlakota is saying the fed can keep rates excep low until unemployment falls below 5.5%......i guess that is forever in relative terms

http://www.minneapolisfed.org/news_e...=4952&ref=none

why not just go all in and make everyone a millionaire by printing wealth?
nah... they gotta make us suffer. that would be too easy.
  • #33,203
  • Sep 20, 2012 3:30pm Sep 20, 2012 3:30pm
Quoting pkimnyc
nah... they gotta make us suffer. that would be too easy.
in deed,....the printing is for their enjoiment only, that is why I told skynet to train a group of us to rip off the federal reserve, is a private bank after all, isn't?, so let just rob them.......
The Chonchy
  • #33,204
  • Sep 20, 2012 3:57pm Sep 20, 2012 3:57pm
Quoting roro53
thanks, man........who knows, but unlimited printing?

deep dark hole imo......there has to be consequences for it eventually

kocherlakota is saying the fed can keep rates excep low until unemployment falls below 5.5%......i guess that is forever in relative terms

http://www.minneapolisfed.org/news_e...=4952&ref=none

why not just go all in and make everyone a millionaire by printing wealth?

Sure the unemployment rate may get to 5.5%, however, my real concern will be where the civilian labor force participation rate will be. Through the definition on U-6, as the CLPR falls, so does unemployment, so essentially the unemployment rate can fall to 0 if enough workers drop out.

Extended low interest rates(when not warranted) destroy labor markets. Input prices rise, profits go down, employers fire when there is no demand. Just look at the large build in crude this week, it is very evident that demand is slowing and furthermore, demand hasn't been anywhere near precrisis levels.

The US economy is at the beginning stages of a liquidity trap building into a serious debt crisis exactly like Japan....just look at the effects of the easing policies, they are diminishing and interest rates are near zero. Easy monetary policy has run its course, but the Keynesians can never admit that they are completely wrong.
  • #33,205
  • Sep 20, 2012 4:31pm Sep 20, 2012 4:31pm
Quoting mfoste1
Sure the unemployment rate may get to 5.5%, however, my real concern will be where the civilian labor force participation rate will be. Through the definition on U-6, as the CLPR falls, so does unemployment, so essentially the unemployment rate can fall to 0 if enough workers drop out.

Extended low interest rates(when not warranted) destroy labor markets. Input prices rise, profits go down, employers fire when there is no demand. Just look at the large build in crude this week, it is very evident that demand is slowing and furthermore, demand...
  • #33,206
  • Sep 20, 2012 4:35pm Sep 20, 2012 4:35pm
Quoting mfoste1
Sure the unemployment rate may get to 5.5%, however, my real concern will be where the civilian labor force participation rate will be. Through the definition on U-6, as the CLPR falls, so does unemployment, so essentially the unemployment rate can fall to 0 if enough workers drop out.

Extended low interest rates(when not warranted) destroy labor markets. Input prices rise, profits go down, employers fire when there is no demand. Just look at the large build in crude this week, it is very evident that demand is slowing and furthermore, demand...

very nice mfoste1, very nice in deed.......
The Chonchy
  • #33,207
  • Sep 20, 2012 4:48pm Sep 20, 2012 4:48pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Then look at silver. Apmex isn't alright for buying online but if you want to save on shipping, buy at your local dealer. More ounces for your dollar and over the long run, it's pretty solid.
I bought my first order of silver today, 3 - 10oz bars.... I plan on buying 3 bars each month for a year. I am investing for my future grandchildren (I don't have any yet - LOL) so I have a few years to build a collection.

Thanks for the idea, nice to have other ways to invest....

N2

Note: If Gold dips back to 1,500.00 an ounce I will work on buying some of it, too high for me right now.
Any other investment ideas, I would like to hear..... thanks
  • #33,208
  • Sep 20, 2012 4:51pm Sep 20, 2012 4:51pm
Quoting N2FX
I bought my first order of silver today, 3 - 10oz bars.... I plan on buying 3 bars each month for a year. I am investing for my future grandchildren (I don't have any yet - LOL) so I have a few years to build a collection.

Thanks for the idea, nice to have other ways to invest....

N2
Congratulation. It's good to put yourself ahead like you're doing with that kind of commitment.

I love the return on gold but the one on silver is a very close second.

Look at the past 5 year percentage return on gold. Then look at the 5 year percentage return on silver.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #33,209
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:02pm Sep 20, 2012 5:02pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Congratulation. It's good to put yourself ahead like you're doing with that kind of commitment.

I love the return on gold but the one on silver is a very close second.

Look at the past 5 year percentage return on gold. Then look at the 5 year percentage return on silver.
I would like to have gold for sure, and I know eventually it will rise above 2,000.00 an ounce, let's hope for a drop first with all the uncertainty in the markets. I might have missed that 1,500.00 opportunity.

At least the silver is affordable. I remember when I was a kid my dad sold a bunch to help us get through a very hard time, so it will be a good investment 20-30 years down the road for my grandchildren.
  • #33,210
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:03pm Sep 20, 2012 5:03pm
did you see this, M?

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...airman-himself

Reggie Middleton postulates that 40 billion per mo really does nothing to alliviate unemployment and infers that the faux concern expressed by the FED and BB is nothing more than a convenient pretense to justify printing again

Middleton thinks that if getting unemployment down/employment up and the FED really was sincere in its expressed concern for all of those people without jobs then it would print 40 billion per month for the Small Business Administration instead and the money could then be loaned directly at very low IRs to that segment of the economy usually most responsible for creating new jobs - small businesses, which are currently having a lot difficulty getting financing from the ________banks

but then that would all bypass the banks,.......can't have that though, right

Quoting mfoste1
Sure the unemployment rate may get to 5.5%, however, my real concern will be where the civilian labor force participation rate will be. Through the definition on U-6, as the CLPR falls, so does unemployment, so essentially the unemployment rate can fall to 0 if enough workers drop out.

Extended low interest rates(when not warranted) destroy labor markets. Input prices rise, profits go down, employers fire when there is no demand. Just look at the large build in crude this week, it is very evident that demand is slowing and furthermore, demand hasn't...
  • #33,211
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:12pm Sep 20, 2012 5:12pm
........new candle under yellow ema 5, should go down but wellcome to forex, anything can happens......

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The Chonchy
  • #33,212
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:12pm Sep 20, 2012 5:12pm

CME lowers margins for ES futures by 12%


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/cme-lo...ted-margins-12


"doesn't get much more obvious than this. The S&P at multi year highs, and what does the CME do? Why it lowers initial (as in please come in and open new positions) spec margin for not only the E-Mini, but virtually every other major market "reflexive" product in existence including S&P, Dow Jones, Nasdaq, and sub-sector futures currently traded..........should WTI ever dare to go up above $100 watch as the CME proceeds to decimate anyone who dares to be long WTI futures on margin"
  • #33,213
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:15pm Sep 20, 2012 5:15pm
Quoting chonchy
........new candle under yellow ema 5, should go down but wellcome to forex, anything can happens......
Man you would pop up a short chart LOL.

I was thinking a move up here in Asia session to 1.2995 area, now I must reconsider.

N2
  • #33,214
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:26pm Sep 20, 2012 5:26pm
It's Friday in Asia folks. And it's Friday in...

East Coast: 5.5 Hours

Central: 6.5 Hours

Mountain: 7.5 Hours

Pacific: 8.5 Hours

So don't you come whining that volume is thin. It's Friday dammit!
Not all sins are created equal
  • #33,215
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:29pm Sep 20, 2012 5:29pm
Quoting N2FX
Man you would pop up a short chart LOL.

I was thinking a move up here in Asia session to 1.2995 area, now I must reconsider.

N2

.......congrats on your new interprise of gold and silver buying N2, is in deed a good one.....for your grandchildrens.....

2995 is very duable N2 and 3000 also, where is the yellow line at, it will move inbetwing those two lines before it breakes up or down........but MACD is pointing down, not cross yet but pointing down, so if I have to guess is down, but yesterday I guess wrong so today I could also guess wrong, so if you are thinking in gething in from 2975 that it is now to 2995, for 20 pips, I subjest to look at the 15M or 30M chart also before entering, my 2 cents N2......

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  • #33,216
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:32pm Sep 20, 2012 5:32pm
Quoting chonchy
.......congrats on your new interprise of gold and silver buying N2, is in deed a good one.....for your grandchildrens.....

2995 is very duable N2 and 3000 also, where is the yellow line at, it will move inbetwing those two lines before it breakes up or down........but MACD is pointing down, not cross yet but pointing down, so if I have to guess is down, but yesterday I guess wrong so today I could also guess wrong, so if you are thinking in gething in from 2975 that it is now to 2995, for 20 pips, I subjest to look at the 15M or 30M chart also...
I was thinking and looking it over, then Jay comes piping in about volume, LOL.

I might just chill tonight and let price go without me.

There is plenty of time next week to start again, I am clear on all positions, and made profits this week anyways.

Thanks a lot guys for the heads up analysis....

N2
  • #33,217
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:51pm Sep 20, 2012 5:51pm
Quoting N2FX
I was thinking and looking it over, then Jay comes piping in about volume, LOL.

I might just chill tonight and let price go without me.

There is plenty of time next week to start again, I am clear on all positions, and made profits this week anyways.

Thanks a lot guys for the heads up analysis....

N2
.......well that is why i told you to look to the smaller TF's is you want to scalp the market, but now is slow just like Jay saids is friday already in some places, so volume is thin, but in london profit taking will open posibilitis to grab some........I'm picking sardines like I call it now.....to fish for a biger fish later......
The Chonchy
  • #33,218
  • Sep 20, 2012 5:55pm Sep 20, 2012 5:55pm
.......For example this tree little pigys charts are ripe for a wave down almost, again, so I'm thinking in adding more to my shorts as soon as they aline in sinc.....

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  • #33,219
  • Sep 20, 2012 6:04pm Sep 20, 2012 6:04pm
Quoting Jay Walker
It's Friday in Asia folks. And it's Friday in...

East Coast: 5.5 Hours

Central: 6.5 Hours

Mountain: 7.5 Hours

Pacific: 8.5 Hours

So don't you come whining that volume is thin. It's Friday dammit!
........So is friday? time for a snack.....

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1252077861
The Chonchy
  • #33,220
  • Edited 8:23pm Sep 20, 2012 6:37pm | Edited 8:23pm
Quoting chonchy
........So is friday? time for a snack.....
WOW, who needs charts.....
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