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  • #112,121
  • Sep 18, 2012 11:36am Sep 18, 2012 11:36am
Quoting kill56
we need a close below the ema200 on daily and we did visit the 6260's ,
if we close below it then east is open , not 6308 insight

the bitch looks like a safe haven
if that happened.. i would look for 1.73 area. its the reason i say the gbp is at or near the top already.. so a short is more probable..
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  • #112,122
  • Sep 18, 2012 11:40am Sep 18, 2012 11:40am
Quoting gatorinla
if that happened.. i would look for 1.73 area. its the reason i say the gbp is at or near the top already.. so a short is more probable. plus oil pryer to the conspiracy theory that many are making about yesterdays drop indicated 90.xx min... and gold is indicated to do the same as posted.. .
added
1640.82 min is what the whisper is on gold. it takes a lot of movement to build a chart. most of this built movement to indicate this, was pryer to open end qe news.. so i don't know what affect that qe news will have,,
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  • #112,123
  • Sep 18, 2012 11:49am Sep 18, 2012 11:49am
Quoting darimik
yes. its 143.

now

99x99. quick
9801.
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  • #112,124
  • Sep 18, 2012 11:52am Sep 18, 2012 11:52am
Quoting gatorinla
2444.. anybody else yet?
You asked last Friday, I said "no justification yet" or something along these lines. Yesterday, I got a oh-so slight rabbit popping its head above Friday's high.
Now, on the lower tf, I see the b/o-levels and pullbacks that got done and the one's that didn't. What I'm not sure about in my own view is that they track back all the way to 2444, because they didn't pb on the b/o then...

That sucks, because I don't take the trades I don't understand... at least not at step one. My fault, I guess.
  • #112,125
  • Sep 18, 2012 12:07pm Sep 18, 2012 12:07pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
You asked last Friday, I said "no justification yet" or something along these lines. Yesterday, I got a oh-so slight rabbit popping its head above Friday's high.
Now, on the lower tf, I see the b/o-levels and pullbacks that got done and the one's that didn't. What I'm not sure about in my own view is that they track back all the way to 2444, because they didn't pb on the b/o then...

That sucks, because I don't take the trades I don't understand... at least not at step one. My fault, I guess.
there was nothing to pop out of... if you were looking at the weekly.. post a chart
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  • #112,126
  • Sep 18, 2012 12:30pm Sep 18, 2012 12:30pm
Quoting gatorinla
there was nothing to pop out of... if you were looking at the weekly.. post a chart
that 3083 was, what I looked at. marked as the red circle.

the weekly top-formation prior to the last drop has a high at 3485.4 and a b/o at 2973.6, the mid being at 3229.5.

might be a bit difficult to see, but I can't scale it better.
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  • #112,127
  • Sep 18, 2012 12:53pm Sep 18, 2012 12:53pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
that 3083 was, what I looked at. marked as the red circle.

the weekly top-formation prior to the last drop has a high at 3485.4 and a b/o at 2973.6, the mid being at 3229.5.

might be a bit difficult to see, but I can't scale it better.
i see the bear.. from your pink box. and it was already completed. if your asking why we are above the circle. after completion.. that bear one is over.. the bear went 150% +
i don't think that is what your asking. so i don't think i am understanding the question
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  • #112,128
  • Sep 18, 2012 12:55pm Sep 18, 2012 12:55pm
Quoting kbmoonshinex
9801.
Lets say the settlement price is calculated by rolling the dice three times.

for example, if you roll 2, then 5, and finally 2, your settlement price is 3. (9/3)

so you rolled 6 and a 5, you have to roll the dice one more time. Where do you trade? In other words, at what price would you be willing to buy and/or sell ?
  • #112,129
  • Sep 18, 2012 1:08pm Sep 18, 2012 1:08pm
Quoting gatorinla
i see the bear.. from your pink box. and it was already completed. if your asking why we are above the circle. after completion.. that bear one is over.. the bear went 150% +
i don't think that is what your asking. so i don't think i am understanding the question
Less a question, more a statement: I can't distinguish the two paths properly!
I never know, coming from the lows of 1.2xx, when it's a re-test and continuation, or a new path.
This time, fundies were there (the front-running of them, at least), so we were looking for a change of direction from short to long quite early. End of July, we both talked to Sisse when he laid out his plan for the concerted action of the ECB/FED. Front-running started and all was fine.

I myself can't see the higher probability of going to 2444 before 3200 when we are a mere 30ish pips away from it.

So, a question in the end: How the hell will I ever be able to do it on my own?
  • #112,130
  • Sep 18, 2012 1:09pm Sep 18, 2012 1:09pm
Quoting darimik
Lets say the settlement price is calculated by rolling the dice three times.

for example, if you roll 2, then 5, and finally 2, your settlement price is 3. (9/3)

so you rolled 6 and a 5, you have to roll the dice one more time. Where do you trade? In other words, at what price would you be willing to buy and/or sell ?
i go with the price.
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  • #112,131
  • Sep 18, 2012 1:20pm Sep 18, 2012 1:20pm
up to April 5 levels on the eu.. we were here just before the last fall.
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  • #112,132
  • Edited 1:46pm Sep 18, 2012 1:34pm | Edited 1:46pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
Less a question, more a statement: I can't distinguish the two paths properly!
I never know, coming from the lows of 1.2xx, when it's a re-test and continuation, or a new path.
This time, fundies were there (the front-running of them, at least), so we were looking for a change of direction from short to long quite early. End of July, we both talked to Sisse when he laid out his plan for the concerted action of the ECB/FED. Front-running started and all was fine.

I myself can't see the higher probability of going to 2444 before 3200 when...
this one in not precise like a mid.. its a grenade approach.. look for weakness means just that. if we close where we are now.. we will have a red day candle engulfing a red doji.. if you entered now you sl would be above that high just a little. you could wait for a higher bounce for this entry. whats the difference if you just risk 1%... or less... no matter how many pips you target.. the r/r here is about 5 to 1.. at 3160 when first spoke of, it was much higher.

2444 does not consider qe.. it don't matter. to go higher, you need buyers.. when all are bullish we go down.. lack of fresh buyers.. the same as when we went down... the ponzi scheme always needs fresh money.. when we pause buyers close and that is = to a seller. or vice verse
there is a market outside of the spot market. commerce slows as price goes higher.. bb said we are in bad shape. so how will the commerce market respond? the actual buying and selling of real products..
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  • #112,133
  • Sep 18, 2012 1:55pm Sep 18, 2012 1:55pm
Quoting gatorinla
this one in not precise like a mid.. its a grenade approach.. look for weakness means just that. if we close where we are now.. we will have a red day candle engulfing a red doji.. if you entered now you sl would be above that high just a little. you could wait for a higher bounce for this entry. whats the difference if you just risk 1%... or less... no matter how many pips you target.. the r/r here is about 5 to 1.. at 3160 when first spoke of, it was much higher.

2444 does not consider qe.. it don't matter. to go higher,...
The grenade approach enlightens me... when you initially asked and the first "I'm in..." and/or "Yeah, G, of course, look here"-posts dribbled in, I was like wtf... either I'm surrounded by geniuses or something else.

The effects of qe, or the ECB printing will still take some time to show up on our charts... while German production went down the last couple of months, the press was close to call an end to the crisis, when production didn't go down that much this month...

Damn, I only got a year left to decide, whether this is for me, or whether I'm going to work at McDonalds. I could steal food there, at least.
  • #112,134
  • Sep 18, 2012 2:00pm Sep 18, 2012 2:00pm
Quoting gatorinla
up to April 5 levels on the eu.. we were here just before the last fall.
April 5 2012 gas was 3.94 pg.. and the eu was in the same place we are now.. we fell not long after. on Sept 13 gas was 3.87.. at the same time we were at eu April 5 levels. near 4 $.. national average off a Bloomberg chart.
if we broke 3.94 the chart indicates 4.34 min+ gas... that would be economy negative.. comparable to to 2008 gas
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  • #112,135
  • Sep 18, 2012 2:20pm Sep 18, 2012 2:20pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
The grenade approach enlightens me... when you initially asked and the first "I'm in..." and/or "Yeah, G, of course, look here"-posts dribbled in, I was like wtf... either I'm surrounded by geniuses or something else.

The effects of qe, or the ECB printing will still take some time to show up on our charts... while German production went down the last couple of months, the press was close to call an end to the crisis, when production didn't go down that much this month...

Damn, I only got a year left to decide, whether this is for me, or whether...
the problem is everyone wants to be right including me.. its only a problem if you risk too much.. this one is looking for 700+ pips.. i already have taken money, and now have a green s/l... i can lose 100 7 pip trades. and make 700 on one, and b.e. (excluding spread). its not a big deal to lose a trade. trade less make more. trade less % and it will be easier to close a red one. have a firm s/l before entry,, use it.
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  • #112,136
  • Sep 18, 2012 2:30pm Sep 18, 2012 2:30pm
bbl 2962 is a big s.. almost center of last weeks candle body
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  • #112,137
  • Sep 18, 2012 2:39pm Sep 18, 2012 2:39pm
I personally think you should know right now if trading ( day ) is for you hatch a years a long time and its obvious you like trading so whats the year all about

working chart - did i get some faid not why wasnt watching the dam pair



Damn, I only got a year left to decide, whether this is for me, or whether I'm
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  • #112,138
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:35pm Sep 18, 2012 4:35pm
These markets are fricking retarded. How you guys watch this day in and out is beyond me. Lol
  • #112,139
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:44pm Sep 18, 2012 4:44pm
at a nice place
a breakout and retest on daily
would be a good idea to keep an eye on that bastard
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  • #112,140
  • Sep 18, 2012 6:24pm Sep 18, 2012 6:24pm
Quoting Venice
These markets are fricking retarded. How you guys watch this day in and out is beyond me. Lol
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