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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:05am Sep 18, 2012 4:05am
  •  Ramjet
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Hi ya Davit..

Thanks for your help!

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Here is what I just did. I retook the Cad at 9740 and closed it right at 9757 under 200EMA anticipating trend reversal to down.
niiice trade, break of inside bar to

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I just know that lot of banks use 200EMA in their trading and its a powerful S/R level hence I am trying to be in sink with this system.
when you say a powerful S/R level you basically mean a floating S/R level yes?

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So to sum up I like to see both 72EMa and 200EMA in same direction for assurance and use this system as an entree
cool!

Just wondering do you use it in a case of a break of the 200EMA level long and then entry on a pull back retouch of the 200EMA to go long?

Cheers,
Adrian
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:20am Sep 18, 2012 4:20am
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Hi ya FX..

How are you managing your take profits?
Are you taking half off at the 20pips then BE or just moving the stop up to BE at 20pips which I think I read before, problem is I'm getting a lot of BE trades at the moment..

Maybe focus on a few pairs rather than the mixture of pairs may help?

Cheers,
Adrian
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soon as the price moves 20 pips in my favor, i'l move my SL to BE, & then i take my first half position at 50 Pips, & the other will ride the complete trend till i see a reversal/price close below/Above 12EMA

i guess you need to fine tune your entries... & need to give enough space for the price to breath...

Don't worry... looks like you are moving to the next level of trading...

Good Luck
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:22am Sep 18, 2012 4:22am
  •  Ramjet
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Quoting FX-Pro
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soon as the price moves 20 pips in my favor, i'l move my SL to BE, & then i take my first half position at 50 Pips, & the other will ride the complete trend till i see a reversal/price close below/Above 12EMA
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Big thanks for the explanation!
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:31am Sep 18, 2012 4:31am
  •  sidefx
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..Asian session weaker short entry setup on AU; pullback to previous resistance above the 12ema and a bearish hrly close below..
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:38am Sep 18, 2012 4:38am
  •  FX-Pro
  • Joined Jul 2012 | Status: Be Good & Do Good | 667 Posts
For All The Newbies.... This Article will show where you stand at the moment in this business.

(Courtesy: Soultrader)


Stage One: Unconscious Incompetence.

This is the first step you take when starting to look into trading. you know that its a good way of making money cos you've heard so many things about it and heard of so many millionaires.Unfortunately, just like when you first desire to drive a car you think it will be easy - after all, how hard can it be?? - price either moves up or down - what's the big secret to that then - lets get cracking!

unfortunately, just as when you first take your place in front of a steering wheel you find very quickly that you haven't got the first clue about what you're trying to do. you take lots of trades and lots of risks. when you enter a trade it turns against you so you reverse and it turns again .. and again, and again.

you try to turn around your losses by doubling up every time you trade - sometimes you'll get away with it but more often than not you will come away scathed and bruised

Well this is stage one - you are totally oblivious to your incompetence at trading.Stage one can last for a week or two of trading but the market is usually swift and you move onto stage two.

Stage Two - Conscious Incompetence

Stage two is where you realise that there is more work involved in this and that you might actually have to work a few things out.

you consciously realise that you are an incompetent trader - you don't have the skills or the insight to turn a regular profit.

During this phase you will buy systems and e-books galore, read websites based everywhere from Russia to the Ukraine. and begin your search for the holy grail.

During this time you will be a system whore - you will flick from method to method day by day and week by week never sticking with one long enough to actually see if it does work. every time you came upon a new indicator you'll be ecstatic that this is the one that will make all the difference.

you will test out automated systems on Meta-trader, you'll play with moving averages, Fibonacci lines, support & resistance, Pivots, Fractals, Divergence, DMI, ADX, and a hundred other things all in the vein hope that your 'magic system' starts today.

you'll be a top and bottom picker, trying to find the exact point of reversal with your indicators and you'll find yourself chasing losing trades and even adding to them cos you are so sure you are right.

You'll go into the live chat room and see other traders making pips and you want to know why it's not you - you'll ask a million questions, some of which are so dumb that looking back you feel a bit silly. You'll then reach the point where you think all the ones who are calling pips after pips are liars - they cant be making that amount cos you've studied and you don't make that, you know as much as they do and they must be lying. but they're in there day after day and their account just grows whilst yours falls.

You will be like a teenager - the traders that make money will freely give you advice but you're stubborn and think that you know best - you take no notice and over leverage your account even though everyone says you are mad to - but you know better.

you'll consider following the calls that others make but even then it wont work so you try paying for signals from someone else - they don't work for you either.

This phase can last ages and ages - in fact in reality it can last well over a year - My own period lasted about 18 months.

Eventually you do begin to come out of this phase. You've probably committed more time and money than you ever thought you would, lost 2 or 3 loaded accounts and all but given up maybe 3 or 4 times.

Then comes stage 3

Stage 3 - The Eureka Moment

Towards the end of stage two you begin to realise that it's not the system that is making the difference.

you realise that its actually possible to make money with a simple moving average and nothing else IF you can get your head and money management right

You start to read books on the psychology of trading and identify with the characters portrayed in those books.

Finally comes the eureka moment.

The eureka moment causes a new connection to be made in your brain.

you suddenly realise that neither you, nor anyone else can accurately predict what the market will do in the next ten seconds, never mind the next 20 mins.

You start to work just one system that you mould to your own way of trading, you're starting to get happy and you define your risk threshold.

You start to take every trade that your 'edge' shows has a good probability of winning with.

when the trade turns bad you don't get angry or even because you know in your head that as you couldn't possibly predict it it isn't your fault - as soon as you realise that the trade is bad you close it . The next trade will have higher odds of success cos you know your simple system works.

You have realised in an instant that the trading game is about one thing - consistency of your 'edge' and your discipline to take all the trades no matter what.

You learn about proper money management and leverage - risk of account etc etc - and this time it actually soaks in and you think back to those who advised the same thing a year ago with a smile

you weren't ready then, but you are now.

The eureka moment came the moment that you truly accepted that you cannot predict the market.

Then comes stage four

Stage 4 - Conscious Competence

Ok, now you are making trades whenever your system tells you to.

you take losses just as easily as you take wins

you now let your winners run to their conclusion fully accepting the risk and knowing that your system makes more money than it loses and when you're on a loser you close it swiftly with little pain to your account

You are now at a point where you break even most of the time - day in day out, you will have weeks where you make 100 pips and weeks where you lose 100 pips - generally you are breaking even and not losing money.

you are now conscious of the fact that you are making calls that are generally good and you are getting respect from other traders as you chat the day away.

You still have to work at it and think about your trades but as this continues you begin to make more money than you lose consistently.

you'll start the day on a 20 pip win, take a 35 pip loss and have no feelings that you've given those pips back because you know that it will come back again.

you will now begin to make consistent pips week in and week out 25 pips one week, 50 the next and so on.

this lasts about 6 months

then comes Stage Five

Stage Five - Unconscious Competence

Now were cooking - just like driving a car, every day you get in your seat and trade - you do everything now on an unconscious level.

you are running on autopilot. You start to pick the really big trades and getting 100 pips in a day is becoming quite normal to you.

This is trading utopia - you have mastered your emotions and you are now a trader with a rapidly growing account.

you're a star in the trading chat room and people listen to what you say. you recognise yourself in their questions from about two years ago.

you pass on your advice but you know most of it is futile cos they're teenagers - some of them will get to where you are - some will do it fast and others will be slower - literally dozens and dozens will never get past stage two but a few will.

Trading is no longer exciting - in fact it's probably boring you to bits - like everything in life when you get good at it or do it for your job - it gets boring - you're doing your job and that's that.

You can now say with your head held high "I'm a currency trader"


Thanks Mr. Soultrader!

Hope this was helpful.
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:50am Sep 18, 2012 4:50am
  •  hinnavaru
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..Asian session weaker short entry setup on AU; pullback to previous resistance above the 12ema and a bearish hrly close below..
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Hi

Took the entry. Took 30 pips on half lot and the other half on BE. Was aiming for 50 pips but since this is not classic entry, took only 30 pips.
If you live in the river you should make friends with the crocodile
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:54am Sep 18, 2012 4:54am
  •  Ramjet
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Hi

Took the entry. Took 30 pips on half lot and the other half on BE. Was aiming for 50 pips but since this is not classic entry, took only 30 pips.
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Good stuff!

I was wondering if you realized it wasn't the classic entry but you were the man with the plan and it payed off!
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  • Sep 18, 2012 4:56am Sep 18, 2012 4:56am
  •  sidefx
  • | Joined Sep 2010 | Status: Member | 910 Posts
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Hi

Took the entry. Took 30 pips on half lot and the other half on BE. Was aiming for 50 pips but since this is not classic entry, took only 30 pips.
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Nicely done. I was zzzzing. The daily chart was a nice heads-up on a break south this week, especially Friday's price action away from resistance.
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:03am Sep 18, 2012 5:03am
  •  FX-Pro
  • Joined Jul 2012 | Status: Be Good & Do Good | 667 Posts
So My Dear Traders’

Patience is the virtue, don’t be disappointed when you don’t get trade/don’t make money… think that you haven’t lost money & stayed out of the market with discipline…

Staying out of the market is also a trade you know…..

Good Luck to all
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:05am Sep 18, 2012 5:05am
  •  Hakimi
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are u still getting 80% profitable trades?
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:21am Sep 18, 2012 5:21am
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are u still getting 80% profitable trades?
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No doubt... as i look only for high potential trades, its not that difficult to achieve 80%+....

Best Regards,
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:23am Sep 18, 2012 5:23am
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Quoting hinnavaru
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Hi

Took the entry. Took 30 pips on half lot and the other half on BE. Was aiming for 50 pips but since this is not classic entry, took only 30 pips.
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Good one hinnavaru

God Bless you.
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:34am Sep 18, 2012 5:34am
  •  Ramjet
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No doubt... as i look only for high potential trades, its not that difficult to achieve 80%+....

Best Regards,
FX-Pro
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Any chance you can throw up some of your latest trades marked up with entry, stops and targets please?
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:36am Sep 18, 2012 5:36am
  •  hinnavaru
  • | Joined Oct 2009 | Status: call on God but row away from rocks | 178 Posts
Hi
Reckon it's time to watch EURUSD?
If you live in the river you should make friends with the crocodile
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  • Sep 18, 2012 5:47am Sep 18, 2012 5:47am
  •  sidefx
  • | Joined Sep 2010 | Status: Member | 910 Posts
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Hi
Reckon it's time to watch EURUSD?
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At an interesting level on the daily chart...watching to see which way she breaks.
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  • Sep 18, 2012 6:02am Sep 18, 2012 6:02am
  •  hinnavaru
  • | Joined Oct 2009 | Status: call on God but row away from rocks | 178 Posts
Watching EURUSD,NZDUSD and EURGBP atm
If you live in the river you should make friends with the crocodile
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  • Sep 18, 2012 6:20am Sep 18, 2012 6:20am
  •  tsipouro
  • | Joined Aug 2012 | Status: Member | 57 Posts
Simply amazing!

This method requires patience which is the most important virtue for a fresh trader. I have to thank you for that lesson. It would be great if everyone would post their trades for educational proposes also.

Still waiting for AUD/USD to bounce back to EMA 72 in order to go short.

Anything I miss in that?

Thank you!
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  • Sep 18, 2012 6:21am Sep 18, 2012 6:21am
  •  Ramjet
  • Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 780 Posts
Late to the party again...preferred the marked up red line area..
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  • Sep 18, 2012 6:28am Sep 18, 2012 6:28am
  •  Ramjet
  • Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 780 Posts
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Simply amazing!

This method requires patience which is the most important virtue for a fresh trader. I have to thank you for that lesson. It would be great if everyone would post their trades for educational proposes also.

Still waiting for AUD/USD to bounce back to EMA 72 in order to go short.

Anything I miss in that?

Thank you!
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Hi ya Tsipouro..

Yes, your right on your thoughts on the Aud/Usd....don't forget you can always look to the Daily TF also to see which way the trend is going for that extra bit of confluence for the bigger moves..

While your waiting on the Aud/Usd to set up have a look at other pairs to get a feel for the system also trying to stick with liquid pairs with tight spreads helps to..

Cheers,
Adrian
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  •  sidefx
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Quoting hinnavaru
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Watching EURUSD,NZDUSD and EURGBP atm
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Quite like the look of NU's PA...for a potential long off an SM3 setup. Who knows, thankfully no guesswork required.
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