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  • #108,041
  • Edited 12:59pm Aug 22, 2012 12:38pm | Edited 12:59pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Been up all night bro. No power nap here. Need to hybernate when this is over.

Same here, 14 hour day for me.

Short EU @ 2534
Also in EA @ 1952 and 1936

Dreaded chart jynx incoming..

EU 5m

EA 30m

I think I'll call it a day here see you all tomorrow
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Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #108,042
  • Aug 22, 2012 12:44pm Aug 22, 2012 12:44pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Been up all night bro. No power nap here. Need to hybernate when this is over.
cool bro.. I know.. just joking.. BTW.. I closed my EUR positions before FOMC

but opened Long GOLD position.. and still running..
  • #108,043
  • Aug 22, 2012 12:51pm Aug 22, 2012 12:51pm
Since things are quiet here, thought I'd post an ECN tick view of the hour running up to FOMC.

The only interesting thing is the footprint of some robot standing on the bid (from :07 to :12 and again from :33 to :38). Evidently some dealer wanted to get net EUR long into the announcement.

The times are US-CT.
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  • #108,044
  • Aug 22, 2012 12:58pm Aug 22, 2012 12:58pm
Quoting Piters
cool bro.. I know.. just joking.. BTW.. I closed my EUR positions before FOMC

but opened Long GOLD position.. and still running..
Awesome bro. Still got the bottom ones?
  • #108,045
  • Aug 22, 2012 12:59pm Aug 22, 2012 12:59pm
Quoting pipper
Nicely done PK
Thanks pipper.
  • #108,046
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:00pm Aug 22, 2012 1:00pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Awesome bro. Still got the bottom ones?
nup.. was greedy and banked all..

now only with GOLD longs.. just before my powernap..
  • #108,047
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:07pm Aug 22, 2012 1:07pm
One last view of the FOMC: the +/- 15m around the announcement. About as orderly as it could be; no shenanigans in spreads, good size all the time, and all the earmarks of a market that concluded after 10 minutes or so that the latest addition to Uncle Ben's Fairy Tales was a half a USD cent higher in EUR.
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  • #108,048
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:12pm Aug 22, 2012 1:12pm
Quoting OldQuant
Since things are quiet here, thought I'd post an ECN tick view of the hour running up to FOMC.

The only interesting thing is the footprint of some robot standing on the bid (from :07 to :12 and again from :33 to :38). Evidently some dealer wanted to get net EUR long into the announcement.

The times are US-CT.
and a little from :03 to :05 ?



hope you're well OQ
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  • #108,049
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:17pm Aug 22, 2012 1:17pm
Quoting chazzle
and a little from :03 to :05 ?



hope you're well OQ
Yes, but the dealers' algol's signature is to cycle the side they're interested in a half pip in a 5 sec or less cycle. That causes the retail houses quotes to twitch a little as their machines follow the inside spreads, and that attracts volume.

That's what made me say those two periods are pretty typical of that.

I am well, thanks!

EDIT: Oh, yeah. I didn't see your attachment. That's another one, really tight. Who is that, BTW.
  • #108,050
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:25pm Aug 22, 2012 1:25pm
Quoting OldQuant

EDIT: Oh, yeah. I didn't see your attachment. That's another one, really tight. Who is that, BTW.
IGindex through ProRealTime charts
  • #108,051
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:26pm Aug 22, 2012 1:26pm
Quoting chazzle
IGindex through ProRealTime charts
Is that mid your chart shows or bid side?
  • #108,052
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:30pm Aug 22, 2012 1:30pm
Quoting OldQuant
That's another one, really tight. Who is that, BTW.
The question I'm asking myself is : is it worth keeping an eye out for this around my levels - or will I drive myself completely insane?
  • #108,053
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:34pm Aug 22, 2012 1:34pm
You know, one of the things the dealers have on the FX market is that no body can really do the kind of high-freq forensics as can be done in stocks.

Any feed you see has both elements of immediate dealer behavior, but also matching behavior one feed to another. The dealers almost never give the same quote to all the feeds they contract to, not for sinister reasons, necessarily, but just because of different contract's requirements.

All in all, though, that's good for us. Otherwise, there'd be the kind of shenanigans that the HF's put into the equities, and while they can break the NYSE or NASDAQ and it's not going to matter that much, they better not break the FX market's microstructure, or all he11 could break loose.
  • #108,054
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:34pm Aug 22, 2012 1:34pm
Quoting OldQuant
Is that mid your chart shows or bid side?
mid
  • #108,055
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:39pm Aug 22, 2012 1:39pm
Quoting chazzle
The question I'm asking myself is : is it worth keeping an eye out for this around my levels - or will I drive myself completely insane?
The point of what I just wrote was: I don't think it is. You have to do it by machine, and the software resources and data costs you incur are way better spent doing something else, and then what you end with anyway isn't all that reliable.

I only look at forensics around announcements to decide which ones need special handling.

FOMC is one that doesn't, because the banks all have a pretty good idea of what's going to be said (I don't mean leak, but who owns the Fed, after all?), and as long as their books are set up right, the move is going to be orderly. And that's all that matters.
  • #108,056
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:41pm Aug 22, 2012 1:41pm
Quoting chazzle
mid
So what that :02 time frame probably means was a half pip cycle on the bid against firm ask, which moved the mid by around a quarter pip. Looks like maybe that bot was using a 1 sec cycle, and wasn't dominating that long.
  • #108,057
  • Aug 22, 2012 1:45pm Aug 22, 2012 1:45pm
Quoting OldQuant
The point of what I just wrote was: I don't think it is.


thanks bud
  • #108,058
  • Aug 22, 2012 2:56pm Aug 22, 2012 2:56pm
9750 on it's way

USDOLLAR D1:
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  • #108,059
  • Aug 22, 2012 2:57pm Aug 22, 2012 2:57pm
What's up all you crazies?!?!?!?
  • #108,060
  • Aug 22, 2012 2:59pm Aug 22, 2012 2:59pm
Quoting USD-Bear
9750 on it's way

USDOLLAR D1:
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don't go on holiday again pls
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