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  • #2,901
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:52pm Aug 5, 2012 8:52pm
Quoting danc
THANKS...
No problem. Anytime.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #2,902
  • Aug 6, 2012 3:55am Aug 6, 2012 3:55am
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  • Aug 6, 2012 4:45am Aug 6, 2012 4:45am
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  • #2,904
  • Aug 6, 2012 9:06am Aug 6, 2012 9:06am
Quoting ForExtraPips
And here's the template for it, in case anybody new to Gann, or others interested in different ways to looking at Gann angles might take notes as the chart moves along.
hallo ForExtraPips, will the template adjust itself every time? can it be used on other pairs?
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  • #2,905
  • Aug 6, 2012 11:41am Aug 6, 2012 11:41am
Quoting samuelngugi
hallo ForExtraPips, will the template adjust itself every time? can it be used on other pairs?
No. The template is just good through the dates on there. I draw a chart up over the weekend and watch what it does. But if a new swing high or low happens, then back to the drawing board. And it can only be used on the E/U pair.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #2,906
  • Aug 7, 2012 8:26pm Aug 7, 2012 8:26pm
hi Godim,

Can you teach something about the time factor regarding the square of 9 for intraday?
  • #2,907
  • Aug 7, 2012 10:49pm Aug 7, 2012 10:49pm
Quoting kirstybird
hi Godim,

Can you teach something about the time factor regarding the square of 9 for intraday?
Hi.
Because SQ9 is a template, I do not use it. Or trying to use it wrong. I will continue with the template (graph) of the third quarter. Can I build SQ9 for the third quarter?
Set in the middle the level MurreyMath 11963. And for the increments I ask the scale price over time - 15.25. I get the following square.

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Note that the red squares are MurreyMath levels and in a diagonal (in time). For example, the level 12339 is obtained for 24 days. On our chart. 12329 level is exactly the main diagonal after 24 days.
For intraday. I can not say anything. I tried to H4 TF. But I think there should be no break in time.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,908
  • Aug 8, 2012 6:42am Aug 8, 2012 6:42am
Hello Godim,
Thanks for the quick reply but i think i did not put my request forward in the right way. I am talking about using the gann square of nine for time on its own without Murrey. Do you know any of that? from the books that i have read i get some results but its not always the case. Im not sure if i am doing it right.
  • #2,909
  • Aug 9, 2012 12:05am Aug 9, 2012 12:05am
Quoting kirstybird
Hello Godim,
Thanks for the quick reply but i think i did not put my request forward in the right way. I am talking about using the gann square of nine for time on its own without Murrey. Do you know any of that? from the books that i have read i get some results but its not always the case. Im not sure if i am doing it right.
Hello kirstybird!
I really do not use SQ9. This to me seems very relative. Above show that SQ9 refers to the main diagonal of the square of Gann. The power of prediction was greatest when the level and timing match. In other words, when the price reaches the main diagonal. But the fan has more angles. These angles are not there in SQ9.
Let me sum it all up. SQ9 is a template that describes only part of the square of Gann. I use the tool - a fan of Gann. With this tool all is on the table. I have no stimulus (necessity) to study SQ9. SQ9 has tools for beginners. Because simply explains (tells) part of the square of Gann.
From your questions show that you have already surpassed the SQ9. I suggest you quickly go through the true square of Gann. Although this is still a template, it shows much more about the market.

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"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,910
  • Aug 9, 2012 12:45am Aug 9, 2012 12:45am
Nice post thnks for sharing.
  • #2,911
  • Edited 8:34am Aug 9, 2012 6:52am | Edited 8:34am
Hey Godim,
Where can i get this template and what do you mean by 'the true square'?

all i see is a box, i dont see how this box will tell me anything without refering to the excel square that i have. Will this tell me about time? without the fan? (sorry my questions might sound stupid to you).
Basically what i want to know is that, can you trade down to the exact minute with the square of nine alone? or am i wasting my time trying to do that with the square alone?
If you are talking about that template... in the begining of the forum, i tried setting it up but it never lined up well.. and i dont exactly know how to use it.
  • #2,912
  • Aug 9, 2012 8:48am Aug 9, 2012 8:48am
It is not stupid. Or I can not explain or "lose in translation". I do not use this spreadsheet. Several years ago I made one. But it gives me nothing. I do not know the rules which can be traded in this table.
Most simply by color. From yellow to yellow. Or from blue to blue. The best from red to red.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,913
  • Aug 9, 2012 8:54am Aug 9, 2012 8:54am
Quoting kirstybird
.....
If you are talking about that template... in the begining of the forum, i tried setting it up but it never lined up well.. and i dont exactly know how to use it.
Ehhh right from the beginning? Here two pages back!

#2884
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,914
  • Aug 9, 2012 1:36pm Aug 9, 2012 1:36pm
Quoting godim
Ehhh right from the beginning? Here two pages back!

#2884


Okay thanks. I see 2 images there with the square. But its not clear, i cant read anything on it esp when i zoom in and i've still not understood which template u're talking about. This is about my first time on a forum, i really appreciate your assitance. One more question, in the attachment that u're showing is the gann grid a part of that square?
  • #2,915
  • Aug 9, 2012 3:15pm Aug 9, 2012 3:15pm
Quoting godim
I think this is the square from 1.4535 built my method.


ok i see this one is a very simple chart compared to your other charts.
How can i get that square on my chart?
  • #2,916
  • Aug 9, 2012 5:57pm Aug 9, 2012 5:57pm
Quoting JR97
I'm not sure Murrey gets it right either. After years of study, experimentation, trading, winning, and losing, I've come to the conclusion that the standard way almost every piece of software, book, or indicator I've seen that deals with the square overlay and "squaring price to time " gets it wrong. That is why the standard measurement rarely has the exact hits mine gets. I believe Gann did this on purpose as he did a lot of things on purpose to throw people off the scent and make them work things out for themselves. He always gives you the...


After reading through the thread, this is what i found related to what i have been studying so far. Relating price/time. Godim you mostly talk about angles, which confuse me at the level that i am. I understand what you talk about 1 x 2 1x3 etc. But my confusion is that i have not seen these squares before and i have no knowledge about how to apply them on my mt4. JR97 Can you please shed some more light on this? I also have a language problem, i understand what you mean by Combining price/time. i dont understand what you mean by squaring price to time? is this using the square of 9? Kindly give me an example (the mathematical calculation) it would help clearify alot of confusion in my mind.
  • #2,917
  • Aug 9, 2012 9:55pm Aug 9, 2012 9:55pm
Quoting kirstybird
ok i see this one is a very simple chart compared to your other charts.
How can i get that square on my chart?
In this thread I wrote why and how. I have no time and effort to write all over again.

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"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,918
  • Aug 9, 2012 10:39pm Aug 9, 2012 10:39pm
Quoting kirstybird
After reading through the thread, this is what i found related to what i have been studying so far. Relating price/time. Godim you mostly talk about angles, which confuse me at the level that i am. I understand what you talk about 1 x 2 1x3 etc. But my confusion is that i have not seen these squares before and i have no knowledge about how to apply them on my mt4. JR97 Can you please shed some more light on this? I also have a language problem, i understand what you mean by Combining price/time. i dont understand what you mean by squaring price...
Squaring of time and price is when time goes say 60 days in to hi and say hi is 3600.. div = 60.. or can be fraction of as long as fraction is fibo or Gann number..price went into hi at say 2160 and was 72 days from low.. 72 of course is 50% of 144..so 2160 div by 72 is 30 or 15 times the 144 square.. Gann fractions are 12.5.. 22.5.. 33.3.. 37.5.. 50% .. 62.5.. 75.. 87.5.. and then on 133..1375.. 150.. etc etc.. most important number is .625/.618.. or 1.618.. 0r 1.62..or multis off to explain many variences of this.. book Gann Made Easy.. Manual.. by billy Mclaren.. many many examples .. in this book covers time .. price.. wave structure.. volume and many many chart pattens.. Mclaren is the True Master..his Square of 144,.. and how to trade.. is in a word bldy AMAZING..worth tracking down and buying.. Just my opn of course..some examples. of 144.. 9..18.. 27.. 36.. 45..48.. 54.. 63.. 72.. etc etc.. 54 and 108 are very important..keep in mind you are dealing wit 2 squares that are interwoven... 90.. and 144.. or 9 and 12.. hope this sheds some lite on subject.. GANN... MADE... EASY.. its a Classic.. Mclaren is the true master of this subject.. all the rest run off him..
  • #2,919
  • Aug 10, 2012 12:27am Aug 10, 2012 12:27am
Yes. The more complicated - the better, right? Here is a simple example. When Gann worked to the stock exchange the work week has been 6 days. How makes this for a year? 52 x 6 = 312 days. Gann was looking for numbers that divide 312 (or 300 or 360). He has worked with divisions 30, 60, 90 days. There is a problem and it is a six-day workweek.
Now the work week is five days. For the year it is 5 x 52 = 260 working days. You can take out and 2-3 additional holidays. So now take one year where is 256 days. This number is 2 ^ 8 and dividing by 2,4,8,16,32,64,128. If Gann could use it, I'm sure that would do it.

Once again I give a link to Automatic Reversal Days, 2012
http://bonniehill.net/pages.aux/murr...rsal.2012.html

No need to "invent" something new.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #2,920
  • Aug 10, 2012 2:03am Aug 10, 2012 2:03am
Another thing we take without any effort are the levels of MurreyMath.
All these fuzzy explanations are unnecessary. I understand a little about what it is. Because I have dealt with these squares. But for a beginner ...?
Here's how easy it is. You get the indicator. Put it on the graph. Define the length of time which will be calculated. For example, 64 days (one quarter) or 256 days (one year). And the indicator draw levels for the price range.

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Then see what happens on the graph. Over time, the maximum price decreases. In other words, price range shrinks. But our square stand, because the division of the price has not changed. Divisions are moved down, but remain the same. This is MurreyMath. But he created for this work. To continue the geometry of Gann.
We see also that this contraction of the range can continue. If the price does not break the limits of the range. You can expect that MurreyMath will reduce the division. If this happens I will show you how to proceed. This is one of my decision.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
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