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  • #41
  • Aug 3, 2012 8:26am Aug 3, 2012 8:26am
Quoting duyk20
Are you another 15 years old?

Oh, you are just a member for a good few months, probably enough time to find out that getting the n00b's money is easier than trading.
Just cause you have 1320 post and enrolled 2010 dont make you a vet fool. Im more active at GLOBAL VIEW and had been since 2001( you didnt even know how to use a computer then) and i always pop into FF to check the calender once in a while and only saw the need to register this april to discourse with informed traders on the GU thread which is a currency i specialise in. I knew this was a wrong trend to even bother contributing in, cause itll be populated by clueless losers!

IM OUT!!!!!!!!!
The only way not to think about money is to have a great deal of it
  • #42
  • Aug 3, 2012 8:39am Aug 3, 2012 8:39am
As for the debate if it is doable or not I have seen a live trade explorer in the December 2011 going from $10k in January 2011 to a bit more than $100k. That guy had two other explorers, both successful but with bigger draw downs. He just withdrew the money that week.

Unfortunately I don't remember his nick name as I didn't bookmark his profile. Yes he is a member here. He made a thread where, if I remember well, he was discussing his fundamental/technical approach but didn't really had a following.

Anyway, I haven't seen since then a trade explorer of any member here, pointing up and not being messed up by a huge draw down in 1-2 trades. I am talking about demo explorers also.

So it can be done. The question is how?
  • #43
  • Aug 3, 2012 8:40am Aug 3, 2012 8:40am
Quoting BinaryRocks
With your response. Goes your creditably as a fund manager. Your immature response would only allow a deaf person to want to invest with you. I am prepared to go back and forth with internet 'gurus' such as yourself. Yet GURUS earn profit without commission, in this social trading system. If a person is truly earning a living in forex. Then I believe they should be making withdrawals on a regular basis.
There they go! For your education MR micro mini account trader, there are highly skilled professional fx traders who not only manage their accounts but also manage for High Networth individuals and they are compensated monthly with a % of all profits they make for the account, thats exactly what the biggest hedge funds do. in my case I dont touch an account if its not $500,000 and above.

I've been making monthly withdrawals on my personal Dukascopy account for over 4 yrs now and youll be freaking out of your bolb mind or probably smoking a bad flavour of crack to think that ill paste my personal trading account dtails or that of my clients on a stupid thread populated by clueless newbies!!! i dont have to prove nothing to you cause i dont know you from a can of paint
The only way not to think about money is to have a great deal of it
  • #44
  • Aug 3, 2012 8:56am Aug 3, 2012 8:56am
I've made a grand total of £4,032 (3 years). My account balance started at £10,000. Most of this was in my third year. In my first, I was down about 30%

Just like my school report card told me each year.... "Must try harder"

Shameless plug to personal blog - I call my trades before they happen Blog is in sig.
  • #45
  • Aug 3, 2012 9:04am Aug 3, 2012 9:04am
For some perverse reason I always enjoy these kinds of threads. They're a slow moving train wreck, and many become worked up over very little.

Congratulations, Makavelli7, on your success. I'm certain you are not alone here, and I appreciate your sharing.

Thanks also to those who urge hard work (and often many failures) to achieve success. The markets are an efficient filtering mechanism and many don't make the cut.

As for the rest, relax, take the information and advice that's offered you, and don't waste your time or theirs questioning what they tell you.

Regards.

dwt
  • #46
  • Edited 9:26am Aug 3, 2012 9:14am | Edited 9:26am
Quoting dwt
For some perverse reason I always enjoy these kinds of threads. They're a slow moving train wreck, and many become worked up over very little.

Congratulations, Makavelli7, on your success. I'm certain you are not alone here, and I appreciate your sharing.

Thanks also to those who urge hard work (and often many failures) to achieve success. The markets are an efficient filtering mechanism and many don't make the cut.

As for the rest, relax, take the information and advice that's offered you, and don't waste your time or theirs questioning what...
thnx

What actually ticked me off was the insinuation by someone up there that i was peddling something. I was just giving plain old advise from my personal experience. I knew that posting on a thread like this is a bad idea and was actually warned. this is the last time ill ever have anything to do with a thread like this. I now see why a lot of very serious and sucessfull traders dont do FORUMS at all!
The only way not to think about money is to have a great deal of it
  • #47
  • Aug 3, 2012 9:16am Aug 3, 2012 9:16am
I know this is just an internet forum and most of us are anonymous and all. But am I the only one who finds these questions kind of rude? How is it any of your business how much people make?

It's not like the stats will be reliable in any way. Like I said, this is the internet so anybody can lie, especially in sites like this about something like this where ego is involved. So what's the point?
  • #48
  • Aug 3, 2012 10:13am Aug 3, 2012 10:13am
Act stupid when dealing with the mob, they will pat you on the back and buy you a beer.
demonstrate your talent when dealing with your peers, they will praise and reward you.
Either way is a lot of fun.
  • #49
  • Aug 3, 2012 10:49am Aug 3, 2012 10:49am
I am painfully aware of the fact that it is easier (much in fact) to trade a demo than a real account. At the outset I was annoyed by those who always spoke about the 'emotions' being the most important thing in forex. I have proved it. On the real account I do not do all that well, but on the demo I have done (literally) more than 100 trades without a loss many times.
  • #50
  • Aug 3, 2012 11:52am Aug 3, 2012 11:52am
Makavelli7, can I ask: did you grow from a small account? What were your milestones? Are you exclusively Forex?

You realize, 3 successful traders have posted, but not a single person has asked us how we got this far. I'm not even close to Makavelli7, but I, and presumably Trader_V, nonetheless have something to offer. We've largely received no more than skepticism and mocking (not from everybody). This is one of the big things which separates successful and unsuccessful people. Traders who will eventually succeed at this are hungry for it, and spend as much time as they can figuring out as much as they can for themselves, and getting as much information from other traders as they can. Those who won't succeed spend this valuable time cynically mocking the successful and seem convinced it's all an illusion simply because Profit wasn't handed directly to them.
  • #51
  • Aug 3, 2012 11:57am Aug 3, 2012 11:57am
... come on stop it already. No one is interested in any one's success.
We are all losers here. So please go lose all your money and then post
  • #52
  • Aug 3, 2012 12:17pm Aug 3, 2012 12:17pm
It's fun to argue with other people on the Internet when you have much time to kill so let me waste some time here.

With all the BS that goes around in the trading industry one has to be very vigilant to protect his precious money. Even in this very forum have been instances where people claimed they were successful and ended up as scams or at best just egomaniacs who simply wanted to *be* something important in a on line community. Recent example a guy who claims that he can teach the methods of a dead trader but was begging to rise $50k from charity to cover up his expensive reckless life mistakes. Another classic example is off course Jacko. You realize that people are feed up with this kind of nonsense.

Off course anyone is free to declare himself whatever he wants in an on line community.The other party has the obligation to be skeptic and filter whatever is being said. Especially when money is involved.

The trade explorers in this site are a great helping tool. If someone makes a claim about his successes he better back it up with some proof (demo or live). If not it is safer to assume he is not who he claims to be.

Again nobody is obligated to provide any proof for anything but then everybody else is obligated to face him with skepticism.
  • #53
  • Aug 3, 2012 1:39pm Aug 3, 2012 1:39pm
Quoting KMidas

The trade explorers in this site are a great helping tool. If someone makes a claim about his successes he better back it up with some proof (demo or live). If not it is safer to assume he is not who he claims to be.


Believe it or not, I make $13427340027 a day and I'm just another random internet person.
  • #54
  • Aug 3, 2012 1:54pm Aug 3, 2012 1:54pm
Quoting KMidas

Again nobody is obligated to provide any proof for anything but then everybody else is obligated to face him with skepticism.
A little skepticism and someone is feeling like something sticking in his arse.

That ego could be good for trading
  • #55
  • Aug 3, 2012 3:25pm Aug 3, 2012 3:25pm
Quoting KMidas
It's fun to argue with other people on the Internet when you have much time to kill so let me waste some time here.
KMidas, I just looked at your signature. The problem with encouraging the trombones is that not only do they play louder, they also drag even more! Nothing like an encouraged bone section to bring The Ride from a nice tempo of 100 all the way down to 40.
  • #56
  • Aug 3, 2012 3:28pm Aug 3, 2012 3:28pm
Bravo Rob,

And it's for some of the reasons that you stated that I rarely post on this site anymore.

Quoting Rob Mondave
Makavelli7, can I ask: did you grow from a small account? What were your milestones? Are you exclusively Forex?

You realize, 3 successful traders have posted, but not a single person has asked us how we got this far. I'm not even close to Makavelli7, but I, and presumably Trader_V, nonetheless have something to offer. We've largely received no more than skepticism and mocking (not from everybody). This is one of the big things which separates successful and unsuccessful people. Traders who will eventually succeed at this are hungry for it,...
Nothing is impossible, with a willing mind!
  • #57
  • Aug 3, 2012 3:47pm Aug 3, 2012 3:47pm
Quoting Rob Mondave
KMidas, I just looked at your signature. The problem with encouraging the trombones is that not only do they play louder, they also drag even more! Nothing like an encouraged bone section to bring The Ride from a nice tempo of 100 all the way down to 40.
Yeah.. I know. Some times I act like a trombone just for the fun of it. Some times I believe I help people with useful comments. Some times hopefully I do both. In any event Internet debates can pretty much be summed in the attached comic. Great time wasters but unsure about their life lesson value.
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  • #58
  • Aug 3, 2012 4:03pm Aug 3, 2012 4:03pm
Quoting KMidas
Yeah.. I know. Some times I act like a trombone just for the fun of it. Some times I believe I help people with useful comments. Some times hopefully I do both. In any event Internet debates can pretty much be summed in the attached comic. Great time wasters but unsure about their life lesson value.
LMAO, i sure have gotten a good laugh out of this. thanks.. Kind of reminds me of me this picture.
  • #59
  • Aug 3, 2012 5:38pm Aug 3, 2012 5:38pm
Quoting jobates
I am painfully aware of the fact that it is easier (much in fact) to trade a demo than a real account. At the outset I was annoyed by those who always spoke about the 'emotions' being the most important thing in forex. I have proved it. On the real account I do not do all that well, but on the demo I have done (literally) more than 100 trades without a loss many times.
It upsets me to see this. It's the exact same thing! Drop your position size so it is so small that you dont care.

Going deeper - It's just money, and money does infact come relatively easy. If we were speculating with our health - then it would be a completely different game and you should expect a bit of emotional content.

Come from a place of abundance and it's a lot easier.

Just know that it's only silly paper and if you give the market some of it, there will be another chance to take it back soon.

Much like when you are picking up girls - if you fully believe that you already have so many girls waiting for you at home, your going to act like the big man in the club because you have nothing to lose. These guys get the most women!

Crude and potentially offensive analogy but it's a similar thing. If you believe that trading is incredibly difficult and the whole world is against you - it's going to make trading so much harder.

Just chill, do your thing, and it'll be all good.

As they say in London - "Stress will kill you quicker than a rabbit gets f**ked"
  • #60
  • Aug 4, 2012 8:30am Aug 4, 2012 8:30am
Quoting LaurenceDale
It upsets me to see this. It's the exact same thing! Drop your position size so it is so small that you dont care.

Going deeper - It's just money, and money does infact come relatively easy. If we were speculating with our health - then it would be a completely different game and you should expect a bit of emotional content.

Come from a place of abundance and it's a lot easier.

Just know that it's only silly paper and if you give the market some of it, there will be another chance to take it back soon.

Much like when you are picking up...
I like the woman analogy, that is so spot on. And no, its not offensive, its just the truth.
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