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  • #11,181
  • Jul 6, 2012 3:18am Jul 6, 2012 3:18am
Hey, we all know that China is called "The world's manufacturer" right ?
Well, there numbers have been looking a little "dodgy" lately. People are starting to wonder, so, I f people start thinking China is in a dowswing, well, you know, Comm Dolls will tank.
Now, don't start shorting comms today or anything, but just something to keep in mid for the near future.
If you see AUD, NZD, and CAD falling all of a sudden, it might be because people are getting afraid that China is really in a MAJOR slowdown.


Some FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

Article Below

http://www.alsosprachanalyst.com/eco...wont-tell.html


Chinese data is .......Only time will tell.
  • #11,182
  • Jul 6, 2012 3:39am Jul 6, 2012 3:39am
USDCHF
The Dominant Trend is up but we have 3 Support Levels which must be touched to get 0.9714 and then 0.9743 > 0.9778
0.9681
0.9666
0.9634
If 0.9580 will be broken by H4 Candle scenario will be change till NFP News
Kami
Don’t follow someone else’s trading advice blindly
  • #11,183
  • Jul 6, 2012 3:50am Jul 6, 2012 3:50am
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  • #11,184
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:00am Jul 6, 2012 4:00am
Quoting Skynet
First, sorry it took this long to reply...i was partying with my american friends. Still slightly buzzed from all the alcohol.

You are basically stating that they need to identify hidden orders and that they do not have specific account informations. As such, where do the get the data to perform their analysis.
No, not exactly. The firsts articles are academic and make the case of the point that I am talking about.

  1. "We have initially considered a subset consisting of the most heavily traded stocks in the two markets, 74 stocks traded in the LSE, and 23 stocks traded in the BME. For both markets we have considered exchange members who made at least one trade per day for at least 200 trading days per ..."



My pointy is "ex-post" vs "ex-ante". The academics paper make regressions to explain outcomes. In simple words, they take a database with old series, "depurate" the data and run a regression to explain the correlations and potential outcomes.... very valid approach in statistics to infer cause-effect but useless for trading.... They are running the regression after "ex-post" ... my point is as traders we need this information if not "ex-ante" at least a few minutes after ....

Using my barclays chart example, the move already happened ... these academics will prolly get the same outcome but only when they get all the info from the stock exchange at the end of this month and run the regression...by then ...

The only article that is relevant is the one with DOM reference. Been, there try that, nice in theory but I cant implemented (and not at all in forex) with the tools and info I have available.

There are less academic approaches but a lot more technical (in the statistical and mathematical sense) around. If you are interested in this field of trading, I would recommend you to start looking in futures (or stocks), get the DOM and T&S and from there start exploring.

There are many useful retail tools available. Check marketdelta first to get a first grasp in Delta and BidxAsk per price in real time to see "those hidden trades". YES you can see them (but you cannot trade it like you think).

There is more advanced options but I would also recommend you to check available algos/systems/formulas in trade velocity and intensity (basically they measure by the tick ask/bids, deltas that can pinpoint on those hidden orders changing direction, etc) ... IMO, this is a valid option to explore in futures (and stocks) but believe me forget it looking at this in Forex, we don't have access (and nobody has).

Finally, my 2 cents if you are interested in trading these ideas, is try to look for academic sources closer to the last article you sent me and also real mathematical implementation of it in trading systems as the first articles and the prev ones are "ex-post" and only relevant for academic purposes...

sisse

Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #11,185
  • Jul 6, 2012 8:05am Jul 6, 2012 8:05am
Nothing unexpected. All trades going along my direction. as soon as I have nice R:R I will take some profits.
or if trades stuck at some level.
  • #11,186
  • Jul 6, 2012 10:04am Jul 6, 2012 10:04am
Quoting kamifx
USDCHF
The Dominant Trend is up but we have 3 Support Levels which must be touched to get 0.9714 and then 0.9743 > 0.9778
0.9681
0.9666
0.9634
If 0.9580 will be broken by H4 Candle scenario will be change till NFP News
Kami
As i have said about up levels , the 0.9765 was touched before any down movement but the next important resistance is 0.9778 that was very strong months ago , i think we have to wait for this level be broken next week by H4 Candle and waiting for down direction around that level to 0.9680
Don’t follow someone else’s trading advice blindly
  • #11,187
  • Jul 6, 2012 10:10am Jul 6, 2012 10:10am
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  • #11,188
  • Jul 6, 2012 12:53pm Jul 6, 2012 12:53pm
Point #1. ex-post vs ex-ante. I dont see it as a huge deal to be honest. Blame it on my science background. In science, we collect data...analyze it...then come up with a theory...then test/apply the theory. That is medicine, that is engineering...especially, in molecular biology/biochemistry. experiments are first done in vitro then the experiment is moved to in vivo stage. AND SCIENCE/MEDICINE IS AS REALTIME AS IT GETS. In every area of applied science...after data has been collected from past events...experiments are first done in a very controlled environment...if fruitful...the experiment is then moved to live demonstration. I dont see why the same cannot apply to quantitative analysis trading. There is nothing wrong in my eyes in collecting past data and running analysis on them inasmuch that you came up with a nice theory that is tested and found tenable in real time. repeatable. observable in real time subsequently. But first, you need to collect that past data and run the analysis first and foremost. Therefore, whatever hypothesis or theories that finance academics come up with through the analysis of past data...in my view, it doesnt matter if and only if their results is tested in realtime and yields actionable info.

i cannot be sarcastic towards or dismissive of something simply because it is a product of academician analysis of past data. this is what we do in science laboratory before moving to live, realtime tests. This is how MEDICINE WORKS. Come to think of it, isnt this how fundamental trading principles of finance are generated?

Point #2. Apart from currencies, i also trade futures and regular stocks...alas, i got my start in penny stocks...that is how i built up my stake. I am aware of level II, time of sales, market profile, depth of market. i am sure i cant have access to level 3.

Point #3. thanks for the infos on trade velocity and market delta.

thanks for the discussion overall.




Quoting sisse
No, not exactly. The firsts articles are academic and make the case of the point that I am talking about.

  1. "We have initially considered a subset consisting of the most heavily traded stocks in the two markets, 74 stocks traded in the LSE, and 23 stocks traded in the BME. For both markets we have considered exchange members who made at least one trade per day for at least 200 trading days per ..."



My pointy is "ex-post" vs "ex-ante". The academics paper make regressions to explain outcomes. In simple words,...

" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,189
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:20pm Jul 6, 2012 1:20pm
Quoting Skynet
Point #1. ex-post vs ex-ante. I dont see it as a huge deal to be honest. Blame it on my science background. In science, we collect data...analyze it...then come up with a theory...then test/apply the theory. That is medicine, that is engineering...especially, in molecular biology/biochemistry. experiments are first done in vitro then the experiment is moved to in vivo stage. AND SCIENCE/MEDICINE IS AS REALTIME AS...
Skynet, I have a question regarding stocks.
You mentioned you are trading them. I am currently looking for some broker which can provide unlimited demo access. RealTick/ DAS or something in same league with Level II, volumes and very importantly alarms. Sterling doe snot have alarms so I am not even looking at it. What I have found all of them provide demo for 5-30 days. I need a lot more than that and it is pretty inconveniet to change demos all the time so, I wonder are you aware of any broker where I can get demo for longer term?
  • #11,190
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:24pm Jul 6, 2012 1:24pm
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  • #11,191
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:50pm Jul 6, 2012 1:50pm
Quoting shomari
Dude, SKYNET, bro, I AM LMMFAO RIGHT NOW !!!!!
Not only because you now gave me the name of my next pattern "SHO-FIZZLE-MARI, the shizzle" PATTERN ((I love it), .....

at least you are not offended by my humour. thanks....on like some people here at FF.....

Quoting shomari
......
but also because the test that guy did kind of just blows away all the B.S. and shows us that if we're in a trend, it's almost like "guaranteed" to produce you some profits, if you go in the main direction. I guess what I mean is that, hell, you could put a monkey in front of a chart and teach it to place orders in the direction of the main trend,and it would probably produce profitable trades in excess of any losses. THAT IS HILARIOUS !!!
The trend is your friend, that's almost all that matters. (assumig the fundamentals are in order,...
You nailed it to a T. Ice cold. Ice smooth. When people talked about edge in the market...I discuss this more in the NEXT POST. CALLED MARKET EDGE.

Quoting shomari
SKY, I now have a new folder on my destop called "SKYNET INFO". I've downloaded ALL those reportrs and such you've posted .
THIS IS SOME DEEP SHIT !!!!
I can see investopedia, a dictionary, and wikipedia, are going to be in FREQUENT USE for me over the next little while.. .
Most flattered. I am learning a lot from you and everyone. I am learning some new things at FF.



Quoting shomari
One thing is I've always wondered,HOW DOES PRICE CHANGE. I mean the technicals of it. How does everyone know the same price, but how does say, a billion dollar buy of say e/u cause it to say, go up. HOW? Are their just milions of computers calculating this? Where are they ? How does price drop when BOJ intervenes ? Just because they pump money out there, who or what is deciding that now the jpy shoud be weaker. The actaul mechanical mechanisms of the market, the actual computer infrastructure, if you will? I don'tknow if that made sense, but the...
To the extent that i understand it...price changes because of liquidity. The structure of the forex market is like this.
http://olesiafx.com/Kathy-Lien-Day-T...p_image004.jpg

ALSO darkstar had a good post on the structure of the forex market.



Quoting shomari
Well Kami, thank you, and a happy 4th (US Independence day holiday) to you as well........AGAIN, HAPPY 4th !!
I really have nothing much else to add to this.


Quoting shomari
LMAO. Yeah the ladies don't like when you keep em waiting. they'll go find something else to do right ? lol

I'm with FXCM and the spread right now is 2.8p.

Jason Statham ROCKS !!
I like "elite killers" the best. out of his movies.


Quoting Skynet
see the violent breakouts in e/n, e/a, g/n, g/a?

are you in any?

e/n and g/a broke out and retest from behind.(i was partying too much missed all of them.)

e/a didnt even bother retesting. it just disrespect those levels like a red-headed step child.

g/n is only a few pips away from 1.9280...let us see how it handles it.
I guess 1.9280 stopped it to the pip.
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,192
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:50pm Jul 6, 2012 1:50pm
Quoting shomari
......
but also because the test that guy did kind of just blows away all the B.S. and shows us that if we're in a trend, it's almost like "guaranteed" to produce you some profits, if you go in the main direction. I guess what I mean is that, hell, you could put a monkey in front of a chart and teach it to place orders in the direction of the main trend,and it would probably produce profitable trades in excess of any losses. THAT IS HILARIOUS !!!
The trend is your friend, that's almost all that matters. (assumig the fundamentals are in...
You nailed it to a T. Ice cold. Ice smooth. When people talked about edge in the market...i can only think of two things that gives me real edge for maximum gains:

#1. trade with the trend.

#2. Market misalignment. This is what i mean by market misalignment:

I am not soo much interested in racking my brain trying to use purchasing power parity, analyzing capital and trade flows, balance of payment model, interest rate differentials, asset market theory, currency substitution model, debt to gdp comparison, asset classes vs commodities vs gold, etcetera....using all that and whatnot to really crack the fundamental value of a nation. You can use all these methodologies to determine the fundamental fair value of a country/currency...but does the market gives a shite?

Dont get me wrong....i read up on these things to understand the fundamental direction....but not necessarily to ascertain the fundamental true value. why? the market can remain irrational more than you can remain solvent...and to me the it is in that disequilibrium where maximum gains are made.

For example: When the euro was appreciating against the USD in 2009 even though strings of economic problems were streaming out of the euro...and yet, the eur/usd was making new highs...is that rational? the USA have underlying structural problem, yet, the introduction of QE bullish the stock market as if that solves the toxic derivative problem of the banks. Is that rational? Look at the bullish market in the USA from 2003 to 2007...it was based on inflated bubble that has nothing concrete to it. how is that rational? How about the tech bubble? If you went short the tech stocks during that time because you made a fundamental assessment that is based on REAL VALUE...you will be raped. that is what happened to julian robertson hedge fund.

The main question i ask is this: skynet, how do you trade the irrationality of the market while cognizant of the fundamental reality? How do you exploit the perception that may create bullshit rallies from a empty fundamental well?

(a)I look for disjointment between fundamental and market action. e,g. when QE was released the USD was depreciating....and every other currencies was beating the crap out of the USD...during this time i look for currencies that least appreciate against the USD(e.g turkish lira)...when the QE is over....i will wait for the currency to break below appopriate technical levels...then i went long the crap out of it. e.g. USD/TRY

(b)When the AUD was kicking every other currencies...and the AUD performance is based on CHINA solid numbers...and soon as i started reading about empty apartment houses in china and over-heated contruction works, etc....i started looking for currencies that showed the strongest strength against AUD(that was the USD).....a currency that i can used to short the AUD...of course, i waited patiently, since the perception is that china is a beast and all is well...i didnt short aud until the china economic miracle was shown to be riddle with holes. I did not fight perception. As soon as a see topping action in the AUD/USD...i went short.

(c) When gold was moving fast and furious towards 1,900 in 2011...i look at all the other metals and commodities....platinum was the weakest....as soon as gold show a topping action...i went short platinum.

(d)In a bear market there will be relief rallies...they are generally triggered when everybody is extremely short and sentiment is at extreme and you are running into an event risk that has uncertainty to it. That is in a nutshell, how i know to be long euro when people are mostly short...and to be short when people are starting turning bullish.

(e)if commodities are up, the dollar index are down, and american stock market are up = you will expect that to be bullish for the commodity currencies...that is cool...and i am willing to trade that in a trend...however, what also interests me is when commodities are up, american stocks market is up, the dollar index is down, and yet, the commodities currencies are down...that is the kind of scenario that an variance, a misalignment.

I look for this kind of variance...disjointment in fundamental versus reality. It is that crack in the wall, where i found my maximum profits. This misalignment tends to happen when perception and irrationality dominates the fundamental true value.

ON A SIDENOTE:THIS WAS THE WAY THAT I USED TO TRADE PENNY STOCKS....i will post about it in the next post. Exploiting market misalignment: How i used to trade penny stocks.
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,193
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:53pm Jul 6, 2012 1:53pm
The core principle here is to look for a situation where the fundamentals and the perception(i.e price action) are totally, incredibly out of phase. Then to take advantage of that gross misalignment.

This gross misalignment is most apparent in penny stocks: Fundamentals are total garbage but price of the stock are flying through the roof. This was the place where i first cut my teeth.

I used it with penny stocks back in the day...when i was starting out....until i made enough money that i could not accommodate myself with pennies due to liquidity issues(they are thinly traded)...and market crash...at first, i compensated for this liquidity problem with the help of a market tactic called: tape reading....but, that soon reached its limits too.....remember those were the days when we had penny stocks that rose 1,000% in one day...yes, you are reading that correctly:1,000% gain. Some stocks, especially, green technology stocks during 2006 can move 1,000% between opening bell and closing bell. On multi-weekly basis, other types of stocks can post 13,000% gain in a few weeks is not uncommon...stocks like FHAL, ENAB, MMTIF, GETG, NCEN, HEPI, ZAAP, GEECF, BWMS, NXCO, SMTA.....some of these stocks ranges from $0.001 to $5 in pps. Most are probably delisted by now because they are garbage. Stocks gain of 100% per day were daily occurrences. Even now we still have some of these +100% gainers in one day. Check it out the list. Look at %Chg on the right. They are updated daily. These stocks were rife with fake reverse mergers, fake earnings...fake business deals with non-entities...nonsensical stock splits....all sorts of garbage shell stocks...phony PIPES...shortsqueezes(real or imagined)....etc....Those were the days when i used to scan IHUB watching the irrational exuberance and then making money from the bloodletting...it was quite ugly actually:You get to meet shady characters that pump and dump like "shakerzz aka King of Pennies" and BB and MOMO.

The boss of them all: STOCKSTER.. See the SEC charges against him.

I studied these scam artists bullshit like crazy and then reverse engineer the fucker out of it.

Here is a primer on how i used to trade those penny stocks for serious gains:

ENTRY PARAMETERS:

1. Go for stocks that have ran up from breakout point(from a consolidation) by at least 80% gain or more; preferably at 52 weeks high; that is now collapsing on +$100,000 worth of volume.(you will need to multiply the pps with the trading volume to get this.). The breakout must be from a consolidation that have congealed for 6 months no less. (reasoning behind this: I noticed that those scammers tends to pump of stocks with solid consolidation base of a few months...i also noticed that when price return to those consolidation bases...the scammers will generally start another run..that is why i placed my buy entry 3% above those levels.)

2. Initiate buy entry at 3% off the breakout point.(breakout point the level where the euphoria began in the 1st place)

3.Stock pps should be $0.1 or above(i used to go for as low as $0.0001...experience taught me otherwise. hahahaha).

4. Avoid stocks that fell on PR(negative or positive) news by at least 2 days margin. This is the world of penny stocks...positive news is bullshit...negative news is also bullshit.(reasoning behind this: i used to try and use positive news to trade them...i realize through a lot of followup exercises, that they are MOSTLY lies. Even some negative news are released just to artificially depress the pps of the stock for the players to buy back at discount before the CEO release a bullish news to squeeze shorts.)

5. Establish 1st and 2nd resistance levels; establish 1st and 2nd support levels. Look for pivot points 1st and 2nd levels...see if it snuggles nicely to S/R levels.( reasoning behind this: i noticed that pps will create these levels from churning: large volume trades with lots of PR news with little price movement. Which means: smart money players are selling to fools or bulls and bears are battling it out. i take note of these levels to watch if history repeat itself.)

INTRA-TRADE MANAGEMENT:

6. Use the 10, 40, 50 SMAs. I tried all the smas and indicators...every fucking last one of them with penny stocks...i realize for fast in and out...the SMAs 10. 40. 50 works best.. (reasoning behind this: the SMAs are simply averages...like velocity or stochastic averages...it is a probabilisitic distribution of price behaviour...pennies operate on a much smaller timeframes than regular stocks...that is why 10 days or 40 days or 50 days smoothed averages are more applicable..something that have less relevance with bigger stocks(50, 100, 200)

7. Zones that are are free of these 3 SMAs are runners zone. When these SMAs are clusters around resistance points they are almost unstoppable. (the reasoning behind this should be self-evident: we have mean zones of probabilistic distribution coupled with areas where smart players like to dump their cargoes...what do you think will most likely happen at such a point?)

EXIT PARAMETERS:

8. If your pps closes below these SMAs get out before market closes. If your entry point rests on these SMAs....you have a winner. (again, the reasoning behind this should be self-evident)

9. Use those three SMAs and/or 2nd resistance zone and/or 2nd day close in the red to determine exit. 10sma is the deadliest.(again, the reasoning here is self-evident)

10. Profit potential: From as little as 30% gain to as high as a 400% gain. I dont push my luck by aiming for 1,000% gain...i just want to take the middle. Penny stocks move soo fast up and down, you wont believe. Period of trade length: 5mins to a week. By fastest gain was a 50% return within 4mins. You should at least have +30% gain by at the latest, day 2 of trade.

(** as you can see, the basis here is that the fundamentals of penny stocks is a lie. which is true. everything about it is a lie. which is also true. I DONT CARE HOW GOOD AND BELIEVABLE IT IS. I have seen enough bloodletting to know otherwise. I look for a stock with a clear case of pumping bullshit and observe patiently the pattern exhibited by the scam artists...wait for it to start repeating itself because scammers are like that...that is when i then get in and out like an expert tightrope walker. In a nutshell: All i am doing here is exploiting behavioural psychology to profit. This wont work very well if the fundamentals are good.**. It is imperative that the fundamentals and price action DIVERGE considerably. hence the use of penny stocks.**)


anyways, that was my tactics back in the day when i used to trade penny stocks....i have long moved to past that.
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,194
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:58pm Jul 6, 2012 1:58pm
Quoting Holy Cow
Skynet, I have a question regarding stocks.
You mentioned you are trading them. I am currently looking for some broker which can provide unlimited demo access. RealTick/ DAS or something in same league with Level II, volumes and very importantly alarms. Sterling doe snot have alarms so I am not even looking at it. What I have found all of them provide demo for 5-30 days. I need a lot more than that and it is pretty inconveniet to change demos all the time so, I wonder are you aware of any broker where I can get demo for longer term?

honestly no. unless you go with one of those market fantasy portfolio. but...they dont come prepackaged with all the goodies.

Quoting Holy Cow
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Nice work.
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,195
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:18pm Jul 6, 2012 4:18pm
Quoting Holy Cow
Nothing unexpected. All trades going along my direction. as soon as I have nice R:R I will take some profits.
or if trades stuck at some level.
You must be a BULL COW, cause you are FUCKING this market like one !!!
LOL !!! I like it, I like it ALOT !!!

Good work !!!
  • #11,196
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:26pm Jul 6, 2012 4:26pm
Quoting Holy Cow
Skynet, I have a question regarding stocks.
You mentioned you are trading them. I am currently looking for some broker which can provide unlimited demo access. RealTick/ DAS or something in same league with Level II, volumes and very importantly alarms. Sterling doe snot have alarms so I am not even looking at it. What I have found all of them provide demo for 5-30 days. I need a lot more than that and it is pretty inconveniet to change demos all the time so, I wonder are you aware of any broker where I can get demo for longer term?
I don't trade stocks, but, if the demo accounts are in metatrader just go to FILE> open an account, and you can reset your demo over and over for infinity. AND it keeps your charts when you open a new account.

I hope that helped a little

Moooo
  • #11,197
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:31pm Jul 6, 2012 4:31pm
Quoting Holy Cow
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You are one horny cow !!!
That is one sweeeeeeeeeeeet trade summary !!!!

That's what this thread is ALL about. PULLING IN FISTFULLS O' PIPS!!!

A tip my hat to you sir.
  • #11,198
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:44pm Jul 6, 2012 4:44pm
Quoting shomari
You must be a BULL COW, cause you are FUCKING this market like one !!!
LOL !!! I like it, I like it ALOT !!!

Good work !!!

I think HOLY COW deserves a vouch.....

HOLY COW,

the council of TTAP has decided to bestow upon thee the honour of a vouch.

+1 from me.

keep up the good work.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...cVezE/Cows.gif
" It may mean something. It may mean nothing at all "
  • #11,199
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:49pm Jul 6, 2012 4:49pm
Quoting Skynet
You nailed it to a T. Ice cold. Ice smooth. When people talked about edge in the market...i can only think of two things that gives me real edge for maximum gains:

#1. trade with the trend.

#2. Market misalignment. This is what i mean by market misalignment:

I am not soo much interested in racking my brain trying to use purchasing power parity, analyzing capital and trade flows, balance of payment model, interest rate differentials, asset market theory, currency substitution model, debt to gdp comparison, asset classes vs commodities vs...
Your technique of finding misalignments is exactly what George Soros said he did to make his billions. He watches the irrationality of a market, and waits for people to finally realize their irrationality and he's waiting to profit when they figure it out. That's how he took out the bank of England. It's like you have to trade with the herd, but if you know the herd is wrong, you also are waiting for them to figure it out, so to speak and then you're already sitting there, ready to pounce. If I'm understanding correctly.
That's why I posted the article about China last night. Comm dolls are rising, cause the Chinese are lying. When the truth comes out next week I expect to see comm dolls TANK BIGTIME, though their own country data is good. I'll be waiting to strike !!
  • #11,200
  • Jul 6, 2012 4:59pm Jul 6, 2012 4:59pm
Quoting Skynet
I think HOLY COW deserves a vouch.....

HOLY COW,

the council of TTAP has decided to bestow upon thee the honour of a vouch.

+1 from me.

keep up the good work.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...cVezE/Cows.gif
AGREED!!!


YES COW, THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN !!! (if I could, I'd give you one as well)

Let's all give Holy Cow a rapturous MOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Keep up the excellent work !!



On a side note, that is one hilarious vid. LMAO !! So that's how you cows celebrate a profitable week. lol
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