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  • #97,201
  • Jun 18, 2012 12:52pm Jun 18, 2012 12:52pm
Quoting sisse
In any case, are closing the thread? IMO, well it has been a v good one. In between quality pictures provided timely by our friend Kill and all the useless but great fun posts of most of the posters, the trading content quality has been great for all of us and especially for the lurkers on the bottom.

If there will we a column with quality trades per post and views in FF, this will be definitively and by far the number one in FF...

sisse
Hi sisse, my friend...I hope you're well.

The thread: I would HATE to see it die off. I tend to agree with everything you said above...and it couldn't have grown to be the fourth most viewed thread ever on FF, within six months, if many others didn't agree, too. The only threads it is behind in total views have been around since as far back as 2004, too! That's pretty telling...and everyone who has ever contributed here should feel a little...un-useless...because of that!

I know from talking privately to some of the "very" regular contributors, that at times it is "work" to keep it going. You kind of need to be "on" all the time to engage with people; bring some analysis...some humor...some "die sokers"...some "whatever"...to keep the thread flowing along. I know some people are a little burned out by it. I know I am a little, too.

And although I'm not complaining about it...it is just the way the site is structured...I receive a LOT of PMs from people, too...sometimes about CRAZY things! But also about some things that legitimately need addressing. People HATE to see fighting amongst us. They HATE it when lines get severely crossed through violent, or full on offensive language. Full on nudity isn't so popular either...a line killer never crosses...a line that has never really been crossed...even when the lovely "coffee girls" were waiting for PTfuckinL to show up every morning, too!

It just feels a little like Groundhog Day (the movie) of late. The markets even. Same shite over and over again. Perhaps everyone is a little burned out at the same time? I don't know. I hope the thread does not die, because when its rolling, as you said...tough one to beat. The "die sokers," "coffee girls," "bastards," etc. etc. are all over FF now...but I know where they all came from! BUT...as far as "bang for the buck" in quality of traders...I mean NO disrespect to any fellow FF'ers...because there are some GREAT traders elsewhere...but I feel the highest ratio of them are in here. But maybe I'm just biased?

Hopefully some of the quieter contributors will step up for a while and keep things flowing...that would be GREAT! If not, perhaps it will just be a little quieter for a while until some batteries are recharged? I would say as long as FF is around, The Useless Thread will be, too...in one form or another.

Quoting sisse
Are you already packing for the summer ...Where are you going?
Biggest thing for me is...I want to complete my Masters by the time I'm 40. If I don't start quick...tick-tock! <--Bastard (time)!

Actually doing it will be the easy part. Getting everything setup to do it is the hard part! I need to just lock it down and get on with it.

Quoting sisse
I still have a few weeks before the summer break ...hopefully I will get the fireworks before the break.
If anyone is going to catch the fireworks, its you mate!

Will you stay in London for the Olympics, or head home for a while...or somewhere else?
  • #97,202
  • Jun 18, 2012 1:03pm Jun 18, 2012 1:03pm
Also sisse...

Just wanted to personally...and publicly...thank you for ALL of your contributions! You have a great head on your shoulders (no pun intended)! You really do. I don't know if you're schooled...or if you just "get" it? Either way...thanks for sharing what you get!

Sincerely,

Ken
  • #97,203
  • Jun 18, 2012 1:20pm Jun 18, 2012 1:20pm
looking for further st USD declines.
Trading through EJ (currently long from 99.20) as I'm starting to like it very much as a risk on/off instrument

USDOLLAR D1:
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  • #97,204
  • Jun 18, 2012 1:41pm Jun 18, 2012 1:41pm
Quoting USD-Bear
looking for further st USD declines.
Trading through EJ (currently long from 99.20) as I'm starting to like it very much as a risk on/off instrument

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Wise man!

Kick its bottom, Bear!

Staying out of Oil until 81/87ish range gives way?
  • #97,205
  • Jun 18, 2012 1:53pm Jun 18, 2012 1:53pm
Quoting kenfen69
Wise man!

Kick its bottom, Bear!

Staying out of Oil until 81/87ish range gives way?
don't know ken, looking at it, 81.50 could draw my attention for a possible long. But for Oil I seem to need indications of relative strength like USD up => Oil up before trying to catch an upmove it takes lots of time, being simple minded, can't combine it with other trades at the same time
Don't be a hero. Don't have an ego. Always question yourself
  • #97,206
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:17pm Jun 18, 2012 2:17pm
Quoting USD-Bear
don't know ken, looking at it, 81.50 could draw my attention for a possible long. But for Oil I seem to need indications of relative strength like USD up => Oil up before trying to catch an upmove it takes lots of time, being simple minded, can't combine it with other trades at the same time
You jackass! Something you would know VERY little about!

Until that range breaks...long 81.50 could be a decent play. Tight stops...why the hell not?

Where ever the pips are, mate. If you're "feeling" EJ right now...not much need for anything else! Keep It Simple Stupid!

nomo
  • #97,207
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:20pm Jun 18, 2012 2:20pm
CL
Looks like could go many ways, or many different patterns EW wise, i guess the simple large zigzag down would be cinderella story tough to commit to any of that thought i think where it sits ATM.
Break 76.40 73.90 purple angles with commitment participation could definately open the doors for lime green below though roughly 43.75 area, wouldnt that be just wonderful for the gas tank heating bills
likely goes up to the reds though from the top down making a triangle
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  • #97,208
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:28pm Jun 18, 2012 2:28pm
So, this construction site is going to be closed? Nothing to see here, anymore, soon?
  • #97,209
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:42pm Jun 18, 2012 2:42pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
So, this construction site is going to be closed? Nothing to see here, anymore, soon?

  • #97,210
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:42pm Jun 18, 2012 2:42pm
Quoting OrionsWay
CL
Looks like could go many ways, or many different patterns EW wise, i guess the simple large zigzag down would be cinderella story tough to commit to any of that thought i think where it sits ATM.
Break 76.40 73.90 purple angles with commitment participation could definately open the doors for lime green below though roughly 43.75 area, wouldnt that be just wonderful for the gas tank heating bills
likely goes up to the reds though from the top down making a triangle
But there might not be much money in people's pockets to pay their small bill!

Jaysus...how many jobs would be shed if oil hits 43.75?

Guess it would be good for shipping, too...but what would be getting shipped? Who made up these bastard rules!
  • #97,211
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:43pm Jun 18, 2012 2:43pm
Quoting kenfen69
You jackass! Something you would know VERY little about!

Until that range breaks...long 81.50 could be a decent play. Tight stops...why the hell not?

Where ever the pips are, mate. If you're "feeling" EJ right now...not much need for anything else! Keep It Simple Stupid!

nomo
really ken you are over-estimating my knowledge, what Oil concerns I don't, apart from some LT general views. Trying to detect where bastards want it to go is actually the only thing I'm investigating while trading Oil
Don't be a hero. Don't have an ego. Always question yourself
  • #97,212
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:47pm Jun 18, 2012 2:47pm
Quoting kenfen69

Perhaps everyone is a little burned out at the same time? I don't know. I hope the thread does not die...

Hopefully some of the quieter contributors will step up for a while and keep things flowing...that would be GREAT! If not, perhaps it will just be a little quieter for a while until some batteries are recharged? I would say as long as FF is around, The Useless Thread will be, too..
Yeap I have noticed that some of the usual gang has burnt out ...it often happens from time to time in forums and especially when the weather starts getting better, the nights longer and the market unstable....

Well in my case, I will keep posting my London open views when around. It keeps me clear and accountable to myself and no excuses when I am wrong plus and more importantly I like exchanging TA and FA views with the serious traders around ...it also keep my trading plan up to date and on guard when I misread the market and I get lost in translation and somebody else post a chart or a comment pointing back to the right north ...

So I'll be around as long as they are traders wanting to exchange market talk...

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Also sisse...

Just wanted to personally...and publicly...thank you for ALL of your contributions!

Thank you for your kind words mate.

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Biggest thing for me is...I want to complete my Masters by the time I'm 40. If I don't start quick...tick-tock! <--Bastard (time)!

Actually doing it will be the easy part. Getting everything setup to do it is the hard part! I need to just lock it down and get on with it.

Will you stay in London for the Olympics, or head home for a while...or somewhere else?

Been there done that...as you said just lock it down and get on with it as soon as you can.... What Masters?...

I thought about renting and running but I didn't do it on time .... I am staying here until September (with the usual long weekends in between) and after planning to go to the south of France and Pais Vasco in Spain for a couple of weeks ....

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #97,213
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:48pm Jun 18, 2012 2:48pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
So, this construction site is going to be closed? Nothing to see here, anymore, soon?
you can't shut the thread down once it's up. i've already tried.
  • #97,214
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:52pm Jun 18, 2012 2:52pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
So, this construction site is going to be closed? Nothing to see here, anymore, soon?
No!

That has never been discussed, or suggested...at least...officially!

I have a feeling it may just be a little quieter for a little while. I really hope nobody stops posting here...especially all together! In fact...I hope some of the beautiful people that only post occasionally, post a little more frequently to help keep a nice flow. Don't be shy!

I'm hooked...will always be nearby. Just won't have as much time to completely engage for a while. Interact? Sure. I'm going to have to adapt my trading somewhat for the next little while...and I could use ALL the help I can get through some of the analysis here. I will be really rather blue if many people head for the hills...including YOU, Hutchinson!
  • #97,215
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:53pm Jun 18, 2012 2:53pm
Quoting pkimnyc
you can't shut the thread down once it's up. i've already tried.
often, this happens without human intervention. would be a pity.
  • #97,216
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:56pm Jun 18, 2012 2:56pm
Quoting AllyB


I mean...! Sorry...got a little comfortable with the royalty!

No need to be worried, Queen! Especially because you and Eagles are going to post THAT little bit extra than you do now. Right?

You're GOLD, AllyB...share it!
  • #97,217
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:59pm Jun 18, 2012 2:59pm
Quoting kenfen69


I mean...! Sorry...got a little comfortable with the royalty!

No need to be worried, Queen! Especially because you and Eagles are going to post THAT little bit extra than you do now. Right?

You're GOLD, AllyB...share it!
kiss kiss hug hug you brat
  • #97,218
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:10pm Jun 18, 2012 3:10pm
Quoting sisse
Yeap I have noticed that some of the usual gang has burnt out ...it often happens from time to time in forums and especially when the weather starts getting better, the nights longer and the market unstable....
Yes...just normal ebbs and flows, I think. Just hate to see us get catty with one another. It happens...no big deal. This certainly isn't the easiest game in the world.

Quoting sisse
Well in my case, I will keep posting my London open views when around. It keeps me clear and accountable to myself and no excuses when I am wrong plus and more importantly I like exchanging TA and FA views with the serious traders around ...it also keep my trading plan up to date and on guard when I misread the market and I get lost in translation and somebody else post a chart or a comment pointing back to the right north ...

So I'll be around as long as they are traders wanting to exchange market talk...
Sweet, sweet music!

Quoting sisse
Been there done that...as you said just lock it down and get on with it as soon as you can.... What Masters?...
Exactly!

Computer Science, mate...with a slice of Electrical Engineering on the side.

Quoting sisse
I thought about renting and running but I didn't do it on time .... I am staying here until September (with the usual long weekends in between) and after planning to go to the south of France and Pais Vasco in Spain for a couple of weeks ....

sisse
Good stuff. Having the Olympics in the city you live in is actually pretty cool. May get a little annoying, but when all is said and done, I'm pretty sure you will remember it positively.

I'll see you LONG before September, so will say "have fun" on the holidays closer to the time.

Nice one, sisse. Go catch some fireworks!
  • #97,219
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:11pm Jun 18, 2012 3:11pm
recap here #9815 , outlook below
  • #97,220
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:15pm Jun 18, 2012 3:15pm
kenji, whats happening, you almost sound melancholic. comeon bite the bullet and stick to the thread till death do you part
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