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  • #26,941
  • May 27, 2012 6:23am May 27, 2012 6:23am
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The Chonchy
  • #26,942
  • May 27, 2012 6:27am May 27, 2012 6:27am
.........women and beer, what ealse.......

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The Chonchy
  • #26,943
  • May 27, 2012 6:29am May 27, 2012 6:29am
..........Oh, I almost forgot, and rock and roll............

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  • #26,944
  • May 27, 2012 6:34am May 27, 2012 6:34am
............Of course we could do what it did on the green arrow and go back up.........be carefull guys, is a moment of true........It could be in deed a great head and shoulder in the making, but you all know what cesar think of those, shampoo's..........



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The Chonchy
  • #26,945
  • May 27, 2012 6:38am May 27, 2012 6:38am
Chonchy,

a bit off the REEF (very nice indeed) topic but maybe Greeks are rethinking as Bruce Krasting speculated that a vote to remain is not priced by the market;

from may 15;

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...rsation-athens

from last night;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ion-polls.html

got an email early this AM and B is checking with the source so maybe an update later on that situation.

if anything i imagine it may slow the fall and with the massive COT short possibly some covering? opp for reversal?
  • #26,946
  • May 27, 2012 6:52am May 27, 2012 6:52am
Quoting roro53
Chonchy,

a bit off the REEF (very nice indeed) topic but maybe Greeks are rethinking as Bruce Krasting speculated that a vote to remain is not priced by the market;

from may 15;

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...rsation-athens

from last night;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ion-polls.html

got an email early this AM and B is checking with the source so maybe an update later on that situation.

if anything i imagine it...
.......I agree compleatly with this comentarist, Greece will no recuparate even if they give them 10 years, not 5, they should get out of the euro, default and start all over, with a new policy, save and administrate theirselfs, I don't know why they don't just do that.........

A return to the drachma would see incomes in Greece and the value of bank deposits and property fall by at least half within a few days, Samaras said. The reintroduced currency would quickly depreciate by at least 50 percent, prices would rise by at least 25 percent and the country’s debt as a percentage of gross domestic product would double, he said.
“No society, no economy and no democracy can tolerate such a sudden collapse in so little time” and comparisons withArgentina’s recovery from its 2001 financial collapse aren’t valid, Samaras said. “Even when Argentina went bankrupt, it was fully sufficient in food and exported meat and grain around the world. What does Greece produce that it can export?”

.......Turism, with a low currency and a lot of poeple looking for work, they will serve the turists with a lot of confort and thus bring a new era to Greece, without the thugs in the banking cartel squeesing them as an orange, to the last drop, low housing prices is good, people can aford them, my two cents..........

........thanks roro53 keep us informed on the situacion......
The Chonchy
  • #26,947
  • May 27, 2012 7:25am May 27, 2012 7:25am
maybe that is why greece got into the euro in the first place if you know what i mean...nothing really to loose so GS manipulates the numbers and invents a financial illusion to buy entry and time.....this must be a fascinating story to unravel....wonder if carney was involved in that deception when working at GS overseas?......or knew about it....must have busted some bones to climb so high up the central bank ladder.

Quoting chonchy
.......I agree compleatly with this comentarist, Greece will no recuparate even if they give them 10 years, not 5, they should get out of the euro, default and start all over, with a new policy, save and administrate theirselfs, I don't know why they don't just do that.........

A return to the drachma would see incomes in Greece and the value of bank deposits and property fall by at least half within a few days, Samaras said. The reintroduced currency would quickly depreciate by at least...
  • #26,948
  • May 27, 2012 7:43am May 27, 2012 7:43am
Quoting roro53
maybe that is why greece got into the euro in the first place if you know what i mean...nothing really to loose so GS manipulates the numbers and invents a financial illusion to buy entry and time.....this must be a fascinating story to unravel....wonder if carney was involved in that deception when working at GS overseas?......or knew about it....must have busted some bones to climb so high up the central bank ladder.
...........Well the idea to put together all this countries together is central banking at its best but in a world centralized financial world (world order) but its failing as it fails in cuba when castro let everybody go from my home town if they would of leave the house, his plan was to make a tourist town but it fails becasue not everybody left and the town got half empty, thus being a mess now with national tourism, not forein, thus not making enough money to keep it clean, bringing failure to the whole town, this european union try to help world order organize, but its failing, good versus evil remember, and good will prevail, time will tell.......
The Chonchy
  • #26,949
  • May 27, 2012 7:47am May 27, 2012 7:47am
looks like some conflicting cross currents between a possible reversion to pro bailout vote in Greece and the announcement on friday afternoon about the next abrogation........

Mark Grant; "The new EU bank plan states clearly and without remorse that the decisions for any bank insolvency will be made by Regulators. This would be people appointed by European politicians, this would be bureaucrats, this would be employees of the State as Europe returns to the governance of the old Soviet Union where the Rule of Law was subordinated to the designs of the nation. Let me make this clearer; unsecured bank debt owners will have no rights, no due process and no appeal. The State will decide who is to get what....."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/run

when i read this yesterday i was thinking to short european equity indexes into the Frankfurt and london opens early monday AM

confusion reigns;

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/are-eu...eat-depression

maybe more VOL coming this week than last?.........just throwing out some thoughts here
  • #26,950
  • May 27, 2012 7:55am May 27, 2012 7:55am
Quoting roro53
looks like some conflicting cross currents between a possible reversion to pro bailout vote in Greece and the announcement on friday afternoon about the next abrogation........

Mark Grant; "The new EU bank plan states clearly and without remorse that the decisions for any bank insolvency will be made by Regulators. This would be people appointed by European politicians, this would be bureaucrats, this would be employees of the State as Europe returns to the governance of the old Soviet Union where the Rule of Law was subordinated to the designs...
........i concur with the second link, we are going to see 2008 all over again, why? because nothing is being done to correct 2008, you don't pay your credit cards with a new credit card, you pay the old credid cards but you still in debt, to pay your credit cards you eather have to pay the credit cards or default, as simple as that, no geoverment or bank can pay off debt with more debt, sooner or later you have to cnfront that debt again, and the interests on it will kill you, I'll kill you......

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  • #26,951
  • May 27, 2012 8:01am May 27, 2012 8:01am
Quoting roro53
looks like some conflicting cross currents between a possible reversion to pro bailout vote in Greece and the announcement on friday afternoon about the next abrogation........

Mark Grant; "The new EU bank plan states clearly and without remorse that the decisions for any bank insolvency will be made by Regulators. This would be people appointed by European politicians, this would be bureaucrats, this would be employees of the State as Europe returns to the governance of the old Soviet Union where the Rule of Law was subordinated to the designs...

[If you cannot read the writing on the wall then allow me to read it for you. The European Union has abrogated the Rule of Law for the good of the State. This is the second such abrogation with the first being the exemption of certain European institutions and the IMF from the Private Sector Involvement of Greece. Greece may be a one-off exemption as they claim but we now have a second instance where jurisprudence has been overturned for the good of the nations of Europe. This is not Socialism or Capitalism but rather some sort of Fascist governance which I publically decry as the echo of the jackboots sounds across the Continent once again. The precedents have now been set and the future is clearly marked by a return to the totalitarianism of a politically controlled State. My advice is therefore succinct:
RUN!]


yes run, I agree, but where is the question..........everything is so mess up that is hard to run somewhere, the bankers don't have control of, and the comunism is no where to run, if you know what I mean, being there done that, it sounds beutifull but try to leave in it like I did, but is also true that this is not comunism not capitalism but fascism, we are leaving in extraordinary times, where only another kind of help is needed not comunism to get ready of capitalism, and not capitalism or democracy to get ready of comunism, is time to create fascism and bring the people under one world order, and like usual, the same people will ask for it, dumb asses, so in deed, there is no were to run me think lol, sad but true........only the architect can resolve this madness........or a world conseusnes, or consiusnes, too big a word for a cuban........sorry.......
The Chonchy
  • #26,952
  • May 27, 2012 8:06am May 27, 2012 8:06am
yea, and lately i have found the messgaes coming out of central bankers to be confusing, or put another way; confused

first posen flips off the pro stimulus side and the pound rallies then makes comments about how UK GDP is actually doing better than the numbers would indicate.

Carney pulls the rate hike speech and a week later Canada's GDP comes in belwo expectation......not to mention the idiot is the only one vocal about raising rates while AUS can't cut fast enough

then mervyn king (who i think is one of the few who tells it like it is) pours cold water all over the recovery and gives aspeech about the difficulty and challenge of trying to return to some modicum of normality

it really is really incredible (mind boggling) that with the stacked deck so in favor of the banks through fractional reserve lending (greatest money making scheme ever invented imo) that the bankers have everything so fucked up that without bailouts from taxpayers the shit hits the fan

????

have to run

Quoting chonchy
........i concur with the second link, we are going to see 2008 all over again, why? because nothing is being done to correct 2008, you don't pay your credit cards with a new credit card, you pay the old credid cards but you still in debt, to pay your credit cards you eather have to pay the credit cards or default, as simple as that, no geoverment or bank can pay off debt with more debt, sooner or later you have to cnfront that debt again, and the interests on it will kill you, I'll kill you......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpDed3M_MY...
  • #26,953
  • May 27, 2012 8:10am May 27, 2012 8:10am
where?..........my first impression when i read this is that it will probably put a cap on equity indexes especially the european indexes and i'd be looking to take shorts off Italy's MIB..............maybe throw in an IBEX or 2 but that thing is so pasted already

if it gets crazy then the swings may be wild like back in the earlier financial crisis days and the risk is the markets get juiced to the upside on bailout rhetoric.

i think King maybe priming the markets to begin to expect more interventions sooner than later.

who knows? be careful is my thought

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Quoting chonchy
[If you cannot read the writing on the wall then allow me to read it for you. The European Union has abrogated the Rule of Law for the good of the State. This is the second such abrogation with the first being the exemption of certain European institutions and the IMF from the Private Sector Involvement of Greece. Greece may be a one-off exemption as they claim but we now have a second instance where jurisprudence has been overturned for the good of the nations of Europe. This is not Socialism or Capitalism but rather some sort of Fascist governance...
  • #26,954
  • May 27, 2012 8:10am May 27, 2012 8:10am
..........meanwhile I stay with music to resolve my problems, oh and beer......of course..........

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  • #26,955
  • May 27, 2012 8:17am May 27, 2012 8:17am
Quoting roro53
where?..........my first impression when i read this is that it will probably put a cap on equity indexes especially the european indexes and i'd be looking to take shorts off Italy's MIB..............maybe throw in an IBEX or 2 but that thing is so pasted already

if it gets crazy then the swings may be wild like back in the earlier financial crisis days and the risk is the markets get juiced to the upside on bailout rhetoric.

i think King maybe priming the markets to begin to expect more interventions sooner than later.

who knows? be careful...
........The problem is that Peter shiff or shift some like that, the one who run for senator, said in an interview not long ago that he thinks that this time is not going to be a run to the dollar, but off the dollar so.....I don't know......I think the best aproach is the same aproach, 30M trend, with 5M entries, roro53, that is what i think, trying to do long term or position trading with this crazynes is imposible me think, small trades is the only way me think, 20 pips max, that is why a good high leverage acc if you have a good hit record is a must, but if you try to guess what they are up to, is a big job that no beer can compensate after, my 2 cents.......
The Chonchy
  • #26,956
  • May 27, 2012 8:27am May 27, 2012 8:27am
..........I stole this video from Peter's, from the useless thread wish explains the situacion bether than me........and there is hope when kids like this start to know who the bad guys are..........

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The Chonchy
  • #26,957
  • May 27, 2012 8:38am May 27, 2012 8:38am
.....see there you go, now you know how to run a bank........

......can we do it?
The Chonchy
  • #26,958
  • Edited 9:41am May 27, 2012 9:13am | Edited 9:41am
...........and what can you spect from this people if they know all this and do nothing to resolve our energy crissis, but then again where do they go with their factories and equipment if they resolve the energy crissis, they will have to get a job and that is a no no in thier book.......but they could easily resolve the energy crissis, and move on to do biger and bether things, instead they rather bombard the siet out of other countries for their oil, and rob us of our money true the banking fractional fake money system.......oh well back to music.........

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The Chonchy
  • #26,959
  • May 27, 2012 12:50pm May 27, 2012 12:50pm
........where is everybody?

........happy memorial weekend to all.........



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  • #26,960
  • May 27, 2012 1:09pm May 27, 2012 1:09pm
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