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  • #321
  • Apr 24, 2012 7:22am Apr 24, 2012 7:22am
Anyone got a script that once executed can send buy/sell orders as fast as they can execute on chart @market, be nice if you had a limiting option in settings to how many to pop to the server maybe a SL option as well??????
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #322
  • Apr 24, 2012 11:29pm Apr 24, 2012 11:29pm
Amazing job on the indicator, and very clear help file too. I just got a chance to take a look at it. You are not only gifted, but generous too. Thanks! ; )


Quoting brooky29
Hi All.

Originally I coded the first indicators to help MoneyDeep out and the thread has evolved into quite a discussion in many areas, probably because of it's misnomer as a price vibration system which tends to conjure up other ideas aside from Gann. Not a spot for newbies who are wanting the holy grail arrow but certainly a melting pot of ideas with much good information so a big thanks to all who have taken the time to post their ideas etc.

As promised I am posting an indicator that has evolved from the original MoneyDeep levels. I am...
  • #323
  • Apr 26, 2012 3:59am Apr 26, 2012 3:59am
Quoting Oshawa
I genuinely hope people can pay a little bit attention to their reading. Regarding Gann angles or Gann Fan, it's all been very clearly explained in materials in a few simple sentences of a very clear example, within a book of about 99 pages including all the padding and appendix. The attached chart shows two sets of Gann angle lines: red and yellow. The red ones are drawn based on some of the discussion here that one has to take two low points A&B(one original one snap back) and calculate the time inbetween. The yellow ones are calculated from one...

Quoting Ilovepippin
Thank you Oshawa, this is the correct method and as I said before for Forex that translates to 1 day for 1 cent or 100 pips on a 4 digit platform. for the 1x1 or 45 degree angle (aspect).
[...]


Hi chaps,
On Oshawas chart the 1x1 line cannot be scaled at 100pips/24hrs, 500pips/week, 2000pips/month etc? To do so would create a 1x1 that appears far steeper/vertical?
  • #324
  • Edited 4:41pm Apr 26, 2012 4:29pm | Edited 4:41pm
PVS system gave me the heads up that EURUSD was overdue for a correction

the cycle lines have been fairly accurate at indicating a change in trend and the gann lines show the downtrend angle
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  • #325
  • Edited 5:28pm Apr 26, 2012 4:47pm | Edited 5:28pm
I'm really not sure how to use the brooky's indicators correctly or understand the whole thing but with little knowledge, I just did some math with Price table and got this. Maybe(since I don't know that's why maybe) this will be what we'll be seeing today before we go up then down again with 35 circles and up to the top for May.

153 + 36 circles = 13113
152 + 36 circles = 13112

I don't know how Sq works but I think it was like that?
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There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force.
  • #326
  • Apr 27, 2012 1:06am Apr 27, 2012 1:06am
i think the best use of this indicator is to manually pick the high and low points

i try many different ones and see which seem to align with price action well

not exactly sure how to use the arcs quite yet but looking into it
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  • #327
  • Apr 27, 2012 1:27am Apr 27, 2012 1:27am
Quoting kiranitoot
I'm really not sure how to use the brooky's indicators correctly or understand the whole thing but with little knowledge, I just did some math with Price table and got this. Maybe(since I don't know that's why maybe) this will be what we'll be seeing today before we go up then down again with 35 circles and up to the top for May.

153 + 36 circles = 13113
152 + 36 circles = 13112

I don't know how Sq works but I think it was like that?
kiranitoot - laid out a template kindly display setting ... thank you
  • #328
  • Apr 27, 2012 2:10am Apr 27, 2012 2:10am
Quoting neuron
i think the best use of this indicator is to manually pick the high and low points

i try many different ones and see which seem to align with price action well

not exactly sure how to use the arcs quite yet but looking into it

Seeing that this thread has evolved into indepth gann analysis I just wanted to say it doesnt have to be difficult.

Everyone trades gann differently. I personally am using the first version of the indicator.
I select a nice looking daily/weekly swing and trade 4hr timeframe.

Different swings will give different harmonics. Theres no right or wrong.
  • #329
  • Apr 27, 2012 2:30am Apr 27, 2012 2:30am
Quoting lotos7
kiranitoot - laid out a template kindly display setting ... thank you
That's all on auto. I just followed the book. Turn on everything or make all false parameters to true.

Combining this with the 1st version, we can clearly see the direction but I still don't know how.. lol
There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force.
  • #330
  • Apr 27, 2012 4:58am Apr 27, 2012 4:58am
I think it will be a pretty sweet ride back down in a few hours.

Adding my strategy and Murrey on the chart. It looks like price is trying to push through to the 4/8ths on Murrey which is a Major support/resistance. Remember, price doesn't break these support/resistance on their first tries. By looking at stochs, we see that red line and yellow is above the blue line. it means that the market is in for a bearish trend. We also see that it's not yet over for the bulls as the market isn't overbought yet or isn't time to trade(atleast for me).

By changing to manual on brooky's indi, I managed to get the view on my left side of the chart. The highest possible target for opening a short would be on 1.3240's or less or maybe not.

I'm still learning how to use it but that's how I see it.
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  • #331
  • Apr 27, 2012 6:10am Apr 27, 2012 6:10am
Quoting moneydeep
Seeing that this thread has evolved into indepth gann analysis I just wanted to say it doesnt have to be difficult.

Everyone trades gann differently. I personally am using the first version of the indicator.
I select a nice looking daily/weekly swing and trade 4hr timeframe.

Different swings will give different harmonics. Theres no right or wrong.
It is certain that I am guilty. I rushed to your space and started asking the agenda. For that I apologize. I was misled by a few things. Now that enthusiasm has passed, I can give myself a clearer assessment. I was hoping, as a joke we write a few dozen rules for such a trading system. I see that on the contrary there is more opposition, not consensus. To which I am sorry. Once again I apologize to the author of the thread. His is the right to lead her in whatever direction he wanted.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #332
  • Apr 27, 2012 10:36am Apr 27, 2012 10:36am
Quoting godim
It is certain that I am guilty. I rushed to your space and started asking the agenda. For that I apologize. I was misled by a few things. Now that enthusiasm has passed, I can give myself a clearer assessment. I was hoping, as a joke we write a few dozen rules for such a trading system. I see that on the contrary there is more opposition, not consensus. To which I am sorry. Once again I apologize to the author of the thread. His is the right to lead her in whatever direction he wanted.
All the Gann information you've presented is right on and way deeper on your other thread. I don't know how you have the patience to teach it. I surely don't, because the knowledge of knowing how to trade Gann is overwhelming for most if not all traders. So why even bother? But kudos to you for at lease trying.
  • #333
  • Apr 28, 2012 3:38am Apr 28, 2012 3:38am
Hello again. We understood that we could not finish the whole system. Let me finish the first instrument - fans of Gann. Stay a little, at least in my opinion. Recall. I showed a way to calculate the scale of the price in time with MurreyMath levels. While the price is within this range all calculations and built in are correct. But when the price out of range possible MurreyMath to change divisions. What to do in this case?
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #334
  • Apr 28, 2012 4:01am Apr 28, 2012 4:01am
We know that Gann is plotted graph on paper. Let us put ourselves for a moment in his place. We have a table with the daily OHLC. Somehow, depending on price range, we determine scale of the price. Suppose 10 cents per 1/8 inch. Putting the entire table or table part of the diagram. This is the graph until the beginning. Then every day inflict new data taken from the exchange. And let's assume that after one or two years the price out of range.
What to do now?
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #335
  • Apr 28, 2012 4:24am Apr 28, 2012 4:24am
What do traders on this thread? They define the scale of a single swing or even leg. This scale has a very local character. And it is reasonable to be covered by the next - more global, etc. Now let's get back on quotations of Gann by Matei. After 10 years, Gann is certain vibrations (scale) in most markets. Today we would take much shorter time. We have computers with databases and whatnot.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #336
  • Apr 28, 2012 5:04am Apr 28, 2012 5:04am
I use the divisions of MurreyMath to determine the price scale. I ask one-year interval of the cycle and MutteyMath determine the range in price. This occur difficulty for the Study of the price range for one-year interval of past times. Because the indicator is designed to calculate from the current time ago. In other words I can not determine price range for the one-year interval for the date 31/12/2011. But this difficulty can be overcome by using the Strategy Tester. Set a daily graphics and the last date 31/12/2011. On the resulting graph place indicator MurreyMath for one year. So you can explore the one-year price range back to this one, until you price information. Finally, we must decide what the scale of the price over time (vibration).
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #337
  • Apr 28, 2012 5:27am Apr 28, 2012 5:27am
In eur/usd I calculated level of 15.25 pips/day. Accept it for the all cases of change of the price range. Like Gann's charts was plotted on paper. Then the calculations are different. Let's take the current situation. The price range has shrunk so that one division was 244 pips. Because I want to keep the scale of 15.25 pips/day. Calculate a new length of the cycle. [244/15,25] x 8 = 16 x 8 = 128 days.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #338
  • Apr 28, 2012 6:05am Apr 28, 2012 6:05am
This does not mean that I change the time for calculating MurreyMath. Just I expect the price to do two cycles a year. Something like that described in the book of James A. Hyerczyk.
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And these are the last few cycles on my chart. On Friday ended the last, which could lead to a decrease in price. Now I've marked the beginning of the cycle from the bottom 1.2624.
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"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #339
  • Apr 28, 2012 6:20am Apr 28, 2012 6:20am
That's all, folks.
"You have to BE before you can DO, and DO before you can HAVE." Zig Ziglar
  • #340
  • Apr 29, 2012 5:05pm Apr 29, 2012 5:05pm
godim, thanks for all the info. now trying to let it sink in and mean something. but if i had to trade off that last chart you posted i would go cross-eyed, lol
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