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  • #33,841
  • Apr 21, 2012 2:08am Apr 21, 2012 2:08am
Quoting traderathome
My suggestion to all Sonicers is to cease and desist in using MAs to "forcast" PA. The Big Guns in the market determine daily what will happen to prices, not MAs! If on any day prices seem to be in accord with MAs, it is not because the MAs made it happen.

We Sonicers use the Dragon MA for nothing else but to ID the proper EP zone, and the angle thereof as an indicator of "possible" momentum that might support a breakout. Sonicers don't use MAs, but the PA itself (!!!) to find appropriate PA Waves to validate a setup!
For the most part, I agree with everything you said in this post and your prior post regarding MA's.

An important point you made was not just that MA's are lagging but also that the longer term ones lag just that much more. So while Classic TA has given the name of the 50/200 the "Golden Cross", and the opposite the "Death Cross", it is indeed a very lagging indy but it can still serve the "average non-technical Investor" as a signal that price 'should' continue in the direction signalled until/unless the signal reverses.

For a "Technical Trader", these crosses really are not that useful imho and again I agree with TAH here.

One thing that has not been mentioned is the important difference an EMA has over a regular MA, which is that the most recent price activity is weighted heavier, so they reflect the most recent price action better than a regular MA. They are still lagging, and the longer term ones again still even more so but they do react quicker than their counter parts. (and a reason why the MACD and the Histo, when interpreted correctly and entirely, can be quite useful for tracking momentum and spotting early signs of a possible reversal coming ie divergence etc)

This brings us to the Dragon, which is a fairly short term EMA based "wave" or envelope if you will. One of the main uses for this is 'helping' us to gauge the current direction. This can be done without the Dragon, by following just pure PA but the Dragon gives a nice visual and because it's lagging, I would argue it helps to keep you prematurely entering whipsaws, sideways action and false reversals when used correctly (waiting for the angle). It can also be used to not prematurely exit positions, if so inclined, since price will typically whip around trying to shake you out of any move but generally will continue in it's current direction until the slope of the Dragon changes and price jumps over the Dragon. Price does not reverse because of the Dragon, of course, but the Dragon helps to show true reversals rather than just small retraces in a current move.

So in a sense and more to that end, the Dragon is being used to 'help' predict direction. If the Dragon is pointing down, and price is bouncing up, this is a signal not to go long and vice versa, the Dragon is 'telling you' this bounce is not significant enough to warrant entry. If the Dragon is sideways, this is telling us there is no current direction and not to enter until one has been determined.

In summary, while I agree the big guns drive the markets and decide what is going to happen, and they don't generally care about MA's or EMA's and don't act according to how they are positioned, EMA's can still be used to help guide us and keep us on the right side of the trades.

My 2 coppers.

disclosure, I am a big fan of using EMA's to trend trade and do so on many TF's but it is only one thing I consider
  • #33,842
  • Apr 21, 2012 3:38am Apr 21, 2012 3:38am
Quoting jayjonbeach
For the most part, I agree with everything you said in this post and your prior post regarding MA's.

An important point you made was not just that MA's are lagging but also that the longer term ones lag just that much more. So while Classic TA has given the name of the 50/200 the "Golden Cross", and the opposite the "Death Cross", it is indeed a very lagging indy but it can still serve the "average non-technical Investor" as a signal that price 'should' continue in the direction signalled until/unless the signal reverses.

For...
i learn a lot from this thread

1. price movement and how to look a safe setup, master sonicdejaay bring it with SonicR System rules
2. behind the scene of the market movement professor TAH has open a lot of thing about this
3. usefull sonikers discussion , sharing each other , its important because sometimes we miss something, then we can caring something

LETS MAKE SOME MONEY !!

ps : sorry my english
  • #33,843
  • Apr 21, 2012 3:50am Apr 21, 2012 3:50am


Quoting jasakreatif
i learn a lot from this thread

1. price movement and how to look a safe setup, master sonicdejaay bring it with SonicR System rules
2. behind the scene of the market movement professor TAH has open a lot of thing about this
3. usefull sonikers discussion , sharing each other , its important because sometimes we miss something, then we can caring something

LETS MAKE SOME MONEY !!

ps : sorry my english
  • #33,844
  • Apr 21, 2012 4:53am Apr 21, 2012 4:53am
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  • #33,845
  • Edited 7:38am Apr 21, 2012 6:22am | Edited 7:38am
Quoting makassar
1st entry was hit tp 20 pips
this is the 2nd entry, stop loss already at BE



perfectly u got it - took nearly the same ...
i took the retest on 30 erz ... - what i say before ...

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emc2
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #33,846
  • Apr 21, 2012 11:21am Apr 21, 2012 11:21am
Quoting enigma4x


perfectly u got it - took nearly the same ...
i took the retest on 30 erz ... - what i say before ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATlRe...eature=related

emc2
(thanks first Enigma for the post)
See again the above video.
Look for the monitorsssssssss again.
Tell me if you can see 1 chart !
No one.
BB don´t use them.... ( as TAH said again and again)
  • #33,847
  • Apr 21, 2012 5:42pm Apr 21, 2012 5:42pm
Quoting traderathome
An "important cross" does not drive anything. Big Guns in the market do! They are the super large hedge funds, central banks, FED, etc. And their "plays" are not based on MAs and MA crossings. Their plays are based on how high or low the actual price has become, and what to do about it for either purposes of profit or for purposes of politics.

Today, as an example, saw EU continue up. However, if the "important cross", as you put it, is so important then [b]why have all the major USD pairs failed to even achieve their range...
It may look like an important cross doesn't drive the market but it helps if you need to make a choice to short or long it.The difference with the cross in usd index was not only 50 200 sma was crossing down also 10 and 200 cross was already down and almost at the same time, so 50 200 cross is not that lagging as it usually is because 10 200 cross happened just before that which is a clue that market tried to hide this drop until everything was ready for them.If 10 200 cross up then I will again think to the upside.

Moreover one thing I figured this week is the importance of weekly and monthly pivots.Have a look at this pivots on your charts , you will figure what the big guns are interested in when trading.

When you look at those pivots one can easily figure that price react those important levels, either bounce from them or if pass them target the next important pivot level, if bounce back target the previous important level and it continues like that.That explains the sudden jumps , and direction changes even when we have a correct sonic setup.
Have a look at it , any opinions are welcome.

Okan
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  • #33,848
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:07pm Apr 21, 2012 8:07pm
Quoting okanemici
It may look like an important cross doesn't drive the market but it helps if you need to make a choice to short or long it.The difference with the cross in usd index was not only 50 200 sma was crossing down also 10 and 200 cross was already down and almost at the same time, so 50 200 cross is not that lagging as it usually is because 10 200 cross happened just before that which is a clue that market tried to hide this drop until everything was ready for them.If 10 200 cross up then I will again think to the upside.
You are missing the main message TAH was trying to get across, and you are giving FAR too much importance to MA's and crosses in general. MA's do NOT drive anything, they can be used as guidelines, maybe something is getting lost in language here not sure.

TAH made MANY good points in his two posts, I really suggest reading them both again, I think my post above compliments his as well. I played Devil's advocate just a tad, but don't lose the main point, the market doesn't give a rat's ass about MA's or EMA's.

Quoting okanemici
Moreover one thing I figured this week is the importance of weekly and monthly pivots. Have a look at this pivots on your charts, you will figure what the big guns are interested in when trading.

When you look at those pivots one can easily figure that price react those important levels, either bounce from them or if pass them target the next important pivot level, if bounce back target the previous important level and it continues like that.That explains the sudden jumps , and direction changes even when we have a correct sonic setup.
The same thing applies here too, and TAH has talked about this before.

Personally I am not that big on the Daily, Weekly, Monthly pivots, many traders are, and they are sometimes respected so I do watch them. I do give MUCH more importance to Support Resistance zones however, and especially Supply Demand zones (there is an important difference, if anyone does not know what it is they should really do some research).

I think TAH will agree here that again you do NOT want to "count" on anything, yes there is a chance price could reverse in any of these places, and you do not generally want to "trade into them", BUT, price only reverses, if and when it reverses. So again, none of these things "drive price", and price can just as easily ignore a level we think is important, and often does.

This is the main point, and one our creator Sonic here stresses often as well, don't get caught in "prediction traps", as you will get burned more times than not. In the words of the Turtles, "never think you know where price is going".

Important levels always need to be watched, especially when price has respected them in the past, but never be SURE price will do anything, stay nimble, watch how price reacts and trade what you see (the reaction).

Hope that helps
  • #33,849
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:53pm Apr 21, 2012 8:53pm
Quoting jayjonbeach
You are missing the main message TAH was trying to get across, and you are giving FAR too much importance to MA's and crosses in general. MA's do NOT drive anything, they can be used as guidelines, maybe something is getting lost in language here not sure.

TAH made MANY good points in his two posts, I really suggest reading them both again, I think my post above compliments his as well. I played Devil's advocate just a tad, but don't lose the main point, the market doesn't give a rat's ass about MA's or EMA's.



The same thing applies...

Hi Jayjonbeach,

I understand what Tah says and what you are telling.I don't tell that ma is driving the market, I just follow some crosses to have an idea about the market in the big picture.That's it !!!

Even in the dragon there is 34 and 89 ema crosses, is that useless ? No , it helps.

About the weekly pivots, I made some reading and played with the charts .I figured that price turn back to previous weeks pivot point in the next week with a high probability.This means gu would see 1.603xx and eu would see 1.314xx in the beginning of the week if that is true.I'll watch if this behaviour continue this week.
Another thing I figured is the previous weekly high lows and the % 50 fibo of these points.Price tend to turn that point as well.
Supply demand zones are important to know, I try to get to know them more these days, if you recommend a link go ahead.
  • #33,850
  • Apr 21, 2012 10:12pm Apr 21, 2012 10:12pm
My idea. ( I don´t want open a new discuss about TA, because exist a lot of threat in FF)

I don´t understand "why" something complete useless like TA still in use for a lot of traders.
Consistency is outside the chart (with TA) !
Let me say better : Consistency is looking the chart and take the opposite side of the crowd signal traders.
Today mostly of the traders accepted TA is not the "holly grail" , that is a good point. But still they think TA give a " better idea" or "big picture" about the market.
We start, we grow, we learn with TA, because in this business somebody need to take the wrong side of the trade. We have the wrong map and BB use this bad information to trap and profit again and again from us.

Read again this old post:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=57639
  • #33,851
  • Apr 22, 2012 12:17am Apr 22, 2012 12:17am
Quoting successlife
I don´t understand "why" something complete useless like TA still in use for a lot of traders.
Consistency is outside the chart (with TA) Consistency is looking the chart and take the opposite side of the crowd signal traders.
most traders accepted TA is not the "holly grail" but still they think TA give a " better idea" or "big picture" about market. BB use this bad information to trap and profit again and again from us.

Read again this old post:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=57639
I've seen that thread before, and never bothered to read it due to the title and assumed it was nonsense. Now you prompted me to go and read it, and waste 5 minutes of my time.

Yes of course there is NO Holy Grail, and that is about the only good point that post made. The problem with his article is he is making a very generalized sweeping claim, like you did by saying TA is useless, which is false. If you said 90% of the Indicators are useless, that would have been much more accurate. Note that that poster did not even discard TA, he warned people that it should not be regarded as a "Holy Grail", and not to "count on it" and to be sure to regard the different methods for what they truly are, tools.

Look, trading is a simple numbers game boiled down, and your job is to win more than you lose. It doesn't even have to be more times, it just has to be MORE, so more money bottom line. If you win 50% of the time, but your wins are twice as big as your losses, you're golden.

So please share with us, how you will do this with no chart or analysis.

I'll save you the trouble, without inside information, you can't. Even if you are using TA as a contrary indicator you are still using TA, and yes, the market often moves to hurt the most people. Why? As TAH points out, this is how the Market Makers make the most money, and that trumps all else at the end of the day for them, ergo us as well then.

Where does that leave us? Our job as a trader is to find a proven method that fits our persona, and one that gives us an edge and wins more than it loses and to stick to it like glue. All this really does is put the odds in your favour, then good Risk and Money Management mostly does the rest. Method, in one shape or another, is going to be some kind of analysis.

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I can help summarize this by sharing the 5 Golden Rules to being a successful Trader (note there is more than one set of these, this is my fav), I found this on the Internet a long long time ago, and I apologize I don't know the source or Author.

1. You have to have a "proven" Method (edge) and the confidence to follow it
2. Discipline - Follow the method, MM, R:R, mental & emotional game, etc YOU are the key once you have a method
3. Experience - learn from your mistakes, adapt, patience
4. Accept that losses are part of the game, and accommodate them.
5. Accept that big wins can be yours, method should lets winners run

A little more to this end, here are some words of wisdom from Mark Douglas's "Trading in the Zone", a book I would highly recommend to all.

THE "5 FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS" IN THE MARKET

1. Anything can happen.
2. You don't need to know what is going to happen next in order to make money.
3. There is a random distribution between wins and losses for any given set of variables that define an edge.
4. An edge is nothing more than an indication of a higher probability of one thing happening over another.
5. Every moment in the market is unique.

In addition, here is his definition for becoming a good trader:

I AM A CONSISTENT WINNER BECAUSE:

1. I objectively identify my edges.
2. I predefine the risk of every trade.
3. I completely accept risk or I am willing to let go of the trade.
4. I act on my edges without reservation or hesitation.
5. I pay myself as the market makes money available to me.
6. I continually monitor my susceptibility for making errors.
7. I understand the absolute necessity of these principles of consistent success and, therefore, I never violate them.

Finally, one more recommendation to all who haven't done so, download the 5 steps PDF post 1 page 1 and understand EACH Trader WILL go through these steps if they are to be successful.
  • #33,852
  • Apr 22, 2012 12:33am Apr 22, 2012 12:33am
Here's a little gift to fellow Sonicers that I hope you'll all enjoy.

This video has been repeatedly been removed from the Internet site after site over the years, and to my knowledge has been near impossible to find for many years so not sure how long this link will work. Safety of the site could be suspect, video is in English and will auto-start, 55 mins long.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/XH5W4vffBbY/

What you have here is a day in the life of Paul Tudor Jones, and a little insight into his some of his ways.

Boy some things sure have changed, that was absolute chaos back then! I don't think I could have operated under those conditions, he of course handled it like a champ, and knew the 6 million dollar loss he suffered one day was just part of the game. What I found strange is they kept talking about a 1988 crash, and there was no mention of the 87 Flash Crash.

Favourite quote from the vid: "I want to sell so bad I can't stand it!!!"

Enjoy
  • #33,853
  • Edited 9:13am Apr 22, 2012 2:55am | Edited 9:13am
Quoting jayjonbeach
Here's a little gift to fellow Sonicers that I hope you'll all enjoy.

This video has been repeatedly been removed from the Internet site after site over the years, and to my knowledge has been near impossible to find for many years so not sure how long this link will work. Safety of the site could be suspect, video is in English and will auto-start, 55 mins long.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/XH5W4vffBbY/

What you have here is a day in the life of Paul Tudor Jones, and a little insight into his some of his ways.

Boy...
Great video! Thank's for the link.
  • #33,854
  • Edited 12:42pm Apr 22, 2012 11:03am | Edited 12:42pm
Sonicers, I am not posting this because of any urge to have any "last say", but because I have seen so much of the way price moves in the markets that I truely believe in what I am about to say.

Such chart body technical analysis indicators as moving averages, bollinger bands, etc., and sub-window technical analysis indicators as the CCI, QQE, RSI, stochastics, etc. are, as Basber has called them, worthless "garbage". This is because: 1) they are all lagging indicators, and 2) they all temp traders to predict and trade on the "logical forcast" of their patterns! And, as we all should realize, the assurance of the pattern continuation is bogus. The market makes it's moves based on current price, and what it wants the price to be, which could take the price in the opposite direction from the "forcast" of any and all said indicators!

The Sonic R. System is elegantly simple. This has been stated over and again because it is the truth. And the Sonic R. System is effective, totally adequate to make money off the market. Newcomers are attracted by the statement of simplicity and effectiveness, especially after bouncing from one previously tried method to another, all based on a multiplicity of technicals. Why then, do newcomers almost immediately when "getting their feet wet" upon immersion into the Sonic R. System, start to add technical "garbage" back into it? I don't know the answer to that, but I do recognize that is a part of what each trader must face within themselves and conquer before they can come to truely believe in the Sonic R. System and apply it profitably.

I also believe many newcomer Sonicers fail to understand the purpose of that which the Sonic R. System uses, and which the TAH template and indicators provide. So, here is a reminder.

The Sonic R. System uses the Dragon and the Trend line and a bit of volume, and the actual price candlesticks. Period! Here is the purpose of each:

Candlesticks - used to spot appropriate wave action (L-H-HL for longs and H-L-LH for shorts), and to spot the "key" candle used in determining the trade entry area.

Dragon - used with the candlesticks to spot that "key" candle, and the angle of the Dragon as a possible measure of the momentum for the trade after the move thru the EP area. The "key" candle is the first candle that exits the Dragon on leg #3 of the PA wave. And entry should be at least a few pips beyond the end of the "key" candle!

Trend - shows the market bias, which is why it is better if the EP area is on the "correct" side of the Trend line (above for longs, below for shorts).

Volume - used to spot two "indications" that might affect a trade: 1) heavy trading that peaks on leg #2 of the PA wave, which can indicate the market is trading more heavily at prices as they move away from the breakout direction of a possible setup, which can actually be good for the prospect of the trade, and 2) sudden very heavy trading as the price is running during the trade, which can mean the market is taking profits and the run might soon be overwith, which can mean it is time consider exiting the trade.

In addition to these Sonic R. System fundamentals, the following aides are included in the TAH template and indicators:

Control Panel - makes posts much easier for readers to ID the pair being posted, provides some basic market data (spread, range, range used, time remaining on current candle), and a clock showing when the forex market opens in some important time zones.

Range Lines - shows the range H/L marks for the day, which can be used in deciding which of possible SR levels to take exit.

Pivot Lines - shows both broker server and (by default) the pivots most used by the market, and can be adjusted to show pivots for any time zone. These are provided for the same reason the Range Lines are provided; to be used in deciding which of possible SR levels to take exit.

Level Lines - the whole, half, quarter levels predate all else as determinate SR. These continue to be psycologically powerful SR areas, with whole numbers levels the most so, down to quarter levels being less so. These are convenient natural SR levels to use because they are "rooted" into market trading from eons ago, and are totally independent of time zone considerations. Knowing Support and Resistance levels (actual from viewing the price chart) is fundamental in the application of the Sonic R. System. And these Level Lines areas are fundamental in historic SR. View any large TF chart into history and you can confirm this for yourself.

vLines - these show when the market opens in London, in NYC and when the market closes in London, and are used to mark the recommended time for trading with the Sonic R. System because that is when trading levels are highest and therefore when trades have the better chance to run well.

FFCAL Panel - Shows timing of "news", and only for the purpose of providing a "heads up" of possible times of above average volatility.

Sonicers, I hope we all, both newcomers and others, will come to have faith in the Sonic R. System, not as we "garbage" it up to be, but as the MASTER Sonicdeejay has presented it,....elegantly simple and effective.


Good Trading to All Sonicers This New Week,
-traderathome
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  • #33,855
  • Edited 12:54pm Apr 22, 2012 12:26pm | Edited 12:54pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Professor TAH..

My template NY session is out of sync..
what setting should I set??

Offset??

Sonic
Master, your chart vLines are fine. According to your Clock (London is "B+1") your broker is at GMT and therefore the Broker_GMT_Offset is "0". That is the default used, so you don't need to change it. You will need to "apply it" (External Inputs, 2nd input change from "false" to "true"), but only when there is no live feed, such as on weekends. I have attached your chart, and mine from two brokers, confirming your vLines are accurate. And please note the NYC time zone is London -5, so the Ny vLine comes 5 hours after the Lo vLine. This is always the case, except during the short period of discrepancy when NYC and London implement DST changeovers twice yearly, but not at the same time. This new Control Panel will handle that when the time comes.

As you can see from my own charts, I am in the NYC time zone, just as I can see from your charts that you are in the Hong Kong time zone. BTW, I plan to release on 05-01-2012 an upgrade that fixes errors in three indicators. The current are fine until then.

-tah
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  • #33,856
  • Apr 22, 2012 1:09pm Apr 22, 2012 1:09pm
My Week With Sonic R.

Last week I closed 5 trades from previous weeks. These were all closed individually at profit, for a net profit of 406 pips.

I opened 8 trades. Of these, I closed 3 individually at profit, for a net profit of 118 pips. However, 5 remain open and currently at a loss, so I have not diminished my "previous still running" trade count. These 5 new trades took the place of the 5 previous trades closed, and effectively (as of the market close) diminished my net profit for the week to a scant 22 pips.

My imperative is to diminish the count of "still running" trades, which currently stands at 10. And my "skills priority" is to exercise greater care in picking setups to trade.

-tah
  • #33,857
  • Apr 22, 2012 1:49pm Apr 22, 2012 1:49pm
Thanks TAh for this post ,lerned a lot from it, till the time i start trading with SonicR i am becoming more and more confident(and comfortable) of RATIONAL and Resoanble of this system,because of it simplisity(CROWD is Primitive and acts simpl).
that whay we do not need to build a roket to make bucks..
Green pip for u TAH and all SonicR folowers for next week,
Regards,
ExpresID
Quoting traderathome
Sonicers, I am not posting this because of any urge to have any "last say", but because I have seen so much of the way price moves in the markets that I truely believe in what I am about to say.

Such chart body technical analysis indicators as moving averages, bollinger bands, etc., and sub-window technical analysis indicators as the CCI, QQE, RSI, stochastics, etc. are, as Basber has called them, worthless "garbage". This is because: 1) they are all lagging indicators, and 2) they all temp traders to predict and trade on the "logical...
  • #33,858
  • Apr 22, 2012 2:26pm Apr 22, 2012 2:26pm
Quoting traderathome
My Week With Sonic R.

Last week I closed 5 trades from previous weeks. These were all closed individually at profit, for a net profit of 406 pips.

I opened 8 trades. Of these, I closed 3 individually at profit, for a net profit of 118 pips. However, 5 remain open and currently at a loss, so I have not diminished my "previous still running" trade count. These 5 new trades took the place of the 5 previous trades closed, and effectively (as of the market close) diminished my net profit for the week to a scant 22 pips.

My...
So Tah are you using stop loses for your orders or just gambling and waiting losing positions will become winning one day?
  • #33,859
  • Edited 6:19pm Apr 22, 2012 6:04pm | Edited 6:19pm
Quoting enigma4x
I think sometimes he use sl and sometimes not - futhermore I´m shure he is an sl mover

ahhh - before I forget to all newbies -
not sonic or his master supa dupa dupa contributer find the setups. there was big names like gann etc.
what these guy does is to rename it to sonic bla blah blah and sell it as his own stuff.
Kid, what foolishness are you trying to pull now?

The Sonic R. System is not "...gann..." etc. Nor is it trying to be! Nor was it ever trying to be! And nobody here is selling anything! In case you still don't know it, after all the time you've been here, MASTER Sonicdeejay's "Prime Promise" is everything here is freely given, freely shared because, as he says, "...sharing is caring."

Come on, kid, get with the "program". You might start by caring yourself about all the falsehoods you continuously try to "sell" to others! Cease and desist with all your foolishness and falsehoods. Become a respectful and respected Sonicer, or be gone with you.

-tah
  • #33,860
  • Edited 7:15pm Apr 22, 2012 6:33pm | Edited 7:15pm
Quoting enigma4x
come on show me your stats an the thrust in ya side ... ego-kid

emc2
Enigma, maybe some day you will grow up and learn that nobody cares about you until they know you care!

But you don't care about anything but your own ego, and that is proven by the content of your posts. You are a teller of falsehoods, uncaring about their affect on others. And you don't care about that because you truely don't care about anybody but yourself.

Regarding my "stats", we've been around this barn before, haven't we? My response remains the same. I post all trades here on the thread live, from start to finish, and with links. So, if you want to know my "stats" you have only to read the thread. And your response is always the same, isn't it. You don't have the balls to post your trades live! You only post "stone age", as Doncex would say. And all Sonicers know what that implies.

Here is something else you are apparently too young to have come to realize. We Sonicers are a team. As a team, we expect each to support the team however they can. Sometimes support means doing nothing until well enough versed to contribute meaningfully. But, well versed or not, all Sonicers understand what eludes you. They know that a team player does not put down the team, the team effort, or any part of the team, in order to promote themselves and their ego.

If you cannot understand this, and get control of yourself, and stop being disruptive, then you belong elsewhere because nobody is going to pay any attention to you. And if you persist with your falsehoods you might even force Master Sonicdeejay to have Forex Factory remove you from the thread.

Meanwhile, if you think I, or anybody, stole anything from you, state your evidence. Personally, I share freely. And if something is shared freely, then how can anybody else "steal" it? My coding is not your coding. Period. Prove otherwise before you continue your falsehoods, or show yourself to be nothing more than a liar that thinks everyone else is stupid enough to believe the falsehoods you continuously iterate, never with evidence.

Kid, you are maniacal. And, like all maniacs, you will fall. Unfortunately, you will hurt others before that happens.

-tah
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