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  • #1
  • First Post: Mar 23, 2012 9:18am Mar 23, 2012 9:18am
Hello, I can run at least 2 instances with several charts open (i.e.I have about 6 charts open in 1 and at least 20 on the other with indicators), but after a while i get unresponsiveness, the whole metatrader UI freezes up even though I can access other programs on my system.

I'm on a 12 GHZ quad with 5 gigs of ram, I know MTis 32 bit and can't take advantage of 64 bit, but I know there are several 32 bit programs that don't work properly in this environment. Anyone with a similar setup getting this issue?

thanks.
Skype: heliosphan187
  • #2
  • Mar 23, 2012 10:55am Mar 23, 2012 10:55am
I have similar setup but with 16 gig of ram. I have no issues.

have a look at CPU and memory in Process manager.

Also the more important thing tends to be how many bars you are holding in max bars in Chart and max bars in history. That will really take up the memory. I have mine set at 5000.

Also it could be your indicators especially if any of them are using iCustom in its code.
  • #3
  • Mar 28, 2012 8:37pm Mar 28, 2012 8:37pm
You can try this:

Right click on the Metatrader 4 shortcut, then click PROPERTIES > COMPATIBILITY > then check the boxe for RUN THIS PROGRAM IN COMPATABILITY MODE FOR and choose WINDOWS XP SP2

Then check the box for privilege level "run as administrator".
Then click CHANGE SETTINGS FOR ALL USERS and apply the same settings, then click APPLY and then OK.

That should help you with MT4 and also any other 32 bit programs you are having issues with. Obviously you have to repeat the above steps for the other programs.

Another tip is to turn off DEP for programs that are acting up.

Also if you have too many indicators and expert advisors in the relevant MT4 folders, this can lockup MT4 in the manner you described So delete unused indicators and expert advisors and that will also help.

Lastly if you have a custom indicator, a badly coded indicator or EA can cause MT4 to lock up also.



Quoting Dirtybrown
Hello, I can run at least 2 instances with several charts open (i.e.I have about 6 charts open in 1 and at least 20 on the other with indicators), but after a while i get unresponsiveness, the whole metatrader UI freezes up even though I can access other programs on my system.

I'm on a 12 GHZ quad with 5 gigs of ram, I know MTis 32 bit and can't take advantage of 64 bit, but I know there are several 32 bit programs that don't work properly in this environment. Anyone with a similar setup getting this issue?

thanks.
  • #4
  • Mar 29, 2012 11:11am Mar 29, 2012 11:11am
What video card do you have? I'm running MT4 on Windows 7 64bit, and I'm experiencing no issues what so ever, it is extremely smooth, but bare in mind I use a $300 gaming graphics card, as well as a quad core processor and 6GB low latency gaming ram.

I am not sure how graphics hungry all these charts are to be honest, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be too bad at all, but if you had on-board (built in) graphics card with a load of charts open then I could certainly see why it would be sluggish.

I think it is a great idea to take on board what CandleForex has said, as those are the first things I would do if I was having similar issues to what you are having.

I hope you sort your problem out soon.
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  • #5
  • Mar 30, 2012 4:53am Mar 30, 2012 4:53am
Hi,
you may also check for last log files in MT4 directories, there may be some error being written in log files upon each tick, slowing your system.
  • #6
  • Apr 2, 2012 1:22pm Apr 2, 2012 1:22pm
Yes, exactly!

When running backtests and or running metatrader continually for more than a few days log files can get quite big.

I got fed up having to delete these log files manually, which can be 100 MB or more in my cases.

So what I did was make a batch file that I just click once and in a few seconds these logs files are deleted. If Metatrader is already running the current log is not deleted, but thats expected and is ok since its usually only a few kilobytes.

If anyone wants that batch file, please get in touch.


Yes, I am aware that a person can just run CCleaner or something like that but ccleaner also deletes other things like cache and cookies etc, plus its slower.

Quoting eliopetteron
Hi,
you may also check for last log files in MT4 directories, there may be some error being written in log files upon each tick, slowing your system.
  • #7
  • Apr 2, 2012 1:35pm Apr 2, 2012 1:35pm
Quoting flyer415
I have similar setup but with 16 gig of ram. I have no issues.

have a look at CPU and memory in Process manager.

Also the more important thing tends to be how many bars you are holding in max bars in Chart and max bars in history. That will really take up the memory. I have mine set at 5000.

Also it could be your indicators especially if any of them are using iCustom in its code.
What the heck are you doing with 16 gB of memory?
"We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails."
  • #8
  • Apr 2, 2012 9:29pm Apr 2, 2012 9:29pm
Thanks thats a good suggestion didn't think of that.

Also thanks to everyone else for their suggestion. Found out that I needed more RAM with all the other apps I run, got 16 GB of crucial coming in the mail this week.

Quoting CandleForex
Yes, exactly!

When running backtests and or running metatrader continually for more than a few days log files can get quite big.

I got fed up having to delete these log files manually, which can be 100 MB or more in my cases.

So what I did was make a batch file that I just click once and in a few seconds these logs files are deleted. If Metatrader is already running the current log is not deleted, but thats expected and is ok since its usually only a few kilobytes.

If anyone wants that batch file, please get in touch.


Yes, I am...
Skype: heliosphan187
  • #9
  • Apr 2, 2012 9:33pm Apr 2, 2012 9:33pm
Easy to do if you do a lot of direct data manipulation. Started using a data analysis platform called SPSS and want to load it with tick data to study correlation.

There are lots of cool things you can do with spare ram. You can create a virtual drive out of RAM and use it to run programs insanely faster. Brokers like goldman use a database system called KDB to store ticks it runs completely in RAM.

Quoting zpr
What the heck are you doing with 16 gB of memory?
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  • #10
  • Apr 2, 2012 11:50pm Apr 2, 2012 11:50pm
Quoting Dirtybrown
Hello, I can run at least 2 instances with several charts open (i.e.I have about 6 charts open in 1 and at least 20 on the other with indicators), but after a while i get unresponsiveness, the whole metatrader UI freezes up even though I can access other programs on my system.

I'm on a 12 GHZ quad with 5 gigs of ram, I know MTis 32 bit and can't take advantage of 64 bit, but I know there are several 32 bit programs that don't work properly in this environment. Anyone with a similar setup getting this issue?

thanks.
I am running MT4 on my win7 64bit OS for more than a year, never face any kind of problem that you are talking.
The more you trade the less you earn.
  • #11
  • Apr 3, 2012 5:38am Apr 3, 2012 5:38am
Quoting CandleForex
Yes, exactly!

When running backtests and or running metatrader continually for more than a few days log files can get quite big.

I got fed up having to delete these log files manually, which can be 100 MB or more in my cases.

So what I did was make a batch file that I just click once and in a few seconds these logs files are deleted. If Metatrader is already running the current log is not deleted, but thats expected and is ok since its usually only a few kilobytes.

If anyone wants that batch file, please get in touch.


Yes, I am aware that...
There´s a free Mt4 cleaner for that.
The website has disappeared - or rather transformed into a dating service,
but the tool still works fine.
Clean up to 6 Mt4 platforms with 1 click.
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  • #12
  • Edited 1:04am Apr 4, 2012 12:53am | Edited 1:04am
Interesting tool.

My solution was to use a batch file. You can get that batch file for free here:

http://www.candleforex.com/ff/delete...rader-logs.zip

When you download it you can see it before you decide to actually run it by opening it in notepad.


Just extract the batch file to C: and double click it to run. It will take care of every .log file on the system.


All it contains are the following commands:

del *.log /a /s /q /f

Del means to delete
/a means Select files to delete based on file_attributes (which are /s /q /f)

/s means Delete from all Subfolders (this is why you need to run the batch file from c

/q means Quiet mode, so you dont give a Yes/No to every log file before deleting.

/f means Ignore read-only setting



Quoting fxtr51
There´s a free Mt4 cleaner for that.
The website has disappeared - or rather transformed into a dating service,
but the tool still works fine.
Clean up to 6 Mt4 platforms with 1 click.
  • #13
  • Apr 4, 2012 1:24am Apr 4, 2012 1:24am
CandleForex,
I downloaded and just used your tool.
Works very nice and smooth.
Great job.
Thanks a lot.
  • #14
  • Apr 4, 2012 1:30am Apr 4, 2012 1:30am
Glad to help you out and your very welcome :-)


Quoting fxtr51
CandleForex,
I downloaded and just used your tool.
Works very nice and smooth.
Great job.
Thanks a lot.
  • #15
  • Apr 5, 2012 8:19pm Apr 5, 2012 8:19pm
thanks for the scripts guys. Got the 16 GB installed, now have 3 separate MT instances with dozens of charts, hardcore VSA templates and all is smooth.

Will they delete offline charts data? I would like to keep my offline chart data if possible for future reference.
Skype: heliosphan187
  • #16
  • Apr 6, 2012 12:22pm Apr 6, 2012 12:22pm
or it is still 32 bit?
  • #17
  • Apr 7, 2012 12:40pm Apr 7, 2012 12:40pm
Quoting kstyxxx
or it is still 32 bit?
It can be 32 or 54 bit so shouldnt be a problem
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  • #18
  • Apr 7, 2012 1:51pm Apr 7, 2012 1:51pm
CandleForex

Thanks for the batch file.

My machine is a couple years old and I am thinking that the space consumed by the 'log' files was pretty extensive.

Thanks again.
  • #19
  • Apr 19, 2012 4:22am Apr 19, 2012 4:22am
Quoting zpr
What the heck are you doing with 16 gB of memory?

If your computer has more Horsepower than your car, then you probably don't have a girlfriend. LOL, I'm just kidding.

I'm just jealous as I only have 12Gig. R.
  • #20
  • Last Post: Mar 6, 2015 9:31am Mar 6, 2015 9:31am
I am sure there are others that still have this problem of MT4 (32-bit) failing to install on Windows 7 64-bit operating system. I bought a new workstation recently and had the same issues installing MT4. I have discovered an easier way to overcome this.

For anyone running a Windows 7 pro 64-bit operating system, you need to install Service Pack 1 (SP1). To install SP1, Microsoft recommends the following:

“The recommended (and easiest) way to get SP1 is to turn on automatic updating in Windows Update in Control Panel, and wait for Windows 7 to notify you that SP1 is ready to install. It takes about 30 minutes to install, and you'll need to restart your computer about halfway through the installation.

To learn if Windows 7 SP1 is already installed
1
Click the Start button, right-click Computer, and then click Properties.
If Service Pack 1 is listed under Windows edition, SP1 is already installed on your computer.

Without the Windows 7 SP1, it will be difficult to install MT4.

Hope this is helpful.
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