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  • #4,281
  • Mar 31, 2012 10:58am Mar 31, 2012 10:58am
Quoting kiranitoot
What do you mean by W5?

The thread is dying because all those who can read the sky are not posting anymore.

Just IMHO, they(you guys) don't post because of people like me who are trying to learn. It's pretty disappointing for me because I or should I say we look up to you. It's like you're pushing us away indirectly.

Still, I know you mean good. It's not like we're asking for your research or anything but all I'm asking is just a few pointers/outline or guide me to the right direction. I can do the rest and make my own software. I've finished...
I think it's best to take it slow. Else you'll get overwhelmed. This isn't the kind of stuff you can cram into a weekend to learn and then all of a sudden be able apply to charts like a MACD.

Learn to apply the major aspects of a few planets. Don't pick too many. Just a couple like Mercury and Mars that are fast enough to have occurrences regularly. Then look at how they correlate to market movements throughout history in different markets and time frames. Find patterns. Look for patterns to repeat. Then start adding in other concepts like declination longitude price conversion.

This stuff is like learning to play a musical instrument. You can't just read a book and walllaaaaa you can play. You need to know the concepts but you also need to practice the instrument itself. Typically, you should be 'practicing' a lot more than you are studying/learning. So learn a few things and then spend a lot of time applying those things. Learn a few more things and then spend a lot more time applying.
  • #4,282
  • Mar 31, 2012 11:47am Mar 31, 2012 11:47am
Quoting JR97
This isn't the kind of stuff you can cram into a weekend to learn and then all of a sudden be able apply to charts like a MACD.
If I were just able to trade the MACD, wouldn't that be beautifull?
Are you honestly able to trade the MACD JR? I mean, respect if you can... but i can't
  • #4,283
  • Mar 31, 2012 11:50am Mar 31, 2012 11:50am
Quoting kiranitoot
What do you mean by W5?

The thread is dying because all those who can read the sky are not posting anymore.

Just IMHO, they(you guys) don't post because of people like me who are trying to learn. It's pretty disappointing for me because I or should I say we look up to you. It's like you're pushing us away indirectly.

Still, I know you mean good. It's not like we're asking for your research or anything but all I'm asking is just a few pointers/outline or guide me to the right direction. I can do the rest and make my own software. I've finished...
Too much information can be overwhelming and confusing, then why not start from one single book and one author's perspective, such as Ferrera? Steer away from things that can be subjective, like perhaps this or perhaps that, go for those that are less prone to subjective interpretation and self-deceptive wishful thinking.

Even Beann said that with Gann people are much better off trading WITH the trend, and the biggest problem of many cycle/gann traders is their perenial attempt to fade the trend. I know someone who said he'd read Gann's trade diary, and that most of his profits came from milking a trend, despite his 'fame' of finding so-called turning points. Finding turning points or look for tops/bottoms may look sexy, but it can also easily kill you. At some stage you will realise that you enter the market to make money, not to look smart to others.

Edit: I think perhaps you have an early question about planet line indicator that you can't make it work. Do remember download the indi in a zip folder, in which there are a few other folders. You need to put the things in those folders into the corresponding folders in your MT4, that's the 'bridge' that would make the planetline indi to read data from ephemeris. Planetline standing alone can't do anything. It needs support from others in those folders.

Even if Mr. Bayer's wave 5 speculation is correct, then after wave a-b-c correction, there can always be another 5 waves. Things are cyclical, and need retreats sometimes to recoup and recharge. That's Elliott Wave theory for you.
  • #4,284
  • Mar 31, 2012 12:09pm Mar 31, 2012 12:09pm
Sorry to say it guys and if it offends anyone then too bad. This isn't about seeing some mystical path, those of you that post this should be put up against the wall and shot.

This is pure scientific application of knowledge, no we are not always right, STI is a brave lady in my opinion, she posted price and time levels before the fact.

To those of you doubters, just look at some of the calls made here they were right on the day. This is not mystic meg, this is the application of trial and error analysis to see what works. I could call a top in the EURUSD, but to be honest why bother? That is a reason some of us no longer post, because I don't get no satisfaction out of it. The posters here that are using this type of analysis don't share their ideas either, not on the forum thats for sure.

More than happy to share with like minded folk, but its a two way bus. Some of the people here are keen to exchange ideas,and my deepest thanks is extended to them other, well I can see they don't.

Just for kicks lets see if I call call the EURUSD top.

Mike Haran
  • #4,285
  • Mar 31, 2012 1:31pm Mar 31, 2012 1:31pm
The voice in the videos is a "Natural Voice Kate"... other than that: I'm a guy

Let's just not get excited over all of this, I mean Fxbandito is right: nobody has a clue... I certainly don't... so if he thinks we should abandon all of our discussions and trials and errors, then great, let him abandon. I won't abandon anything, I am too much interested in this

If anyone thinks I'm trying to prove anything, or disprove anything or falsify anything or freaking out or mystifying anything... well... then I guess they failed to understand.

Fxbandito: pay attention!: the best way to trade forex is support and resistance. All other systems than support and resistance should be looked upon as HOBBY! So if you want to trade forex: get out of this thread.... if you want to hobby: please be welcome.

Fxbandito: pay attention!: never forget to put a stoploss in place!
  • #4,286
  • Mar 31, 2012 1:49pm Mar 31, 2012 1:49pm
Quoting kiranitoot
Just IMHO, they(you guys) don't post because of people like me who are trying to learn. It's pretty disappointing for me because I or should I say we look up to you. It's like you're pushing us away indirectly.
No, not really... when I was learning this stuff there was no Forex Factory, and Gann material was difficult to get. So you have a luxury position because you have got indicators like the Planet Lines that should be able to get you on your way. Heck, you have MateTrader for that matter! When I started on stocks I had to call my broker by phone!

But ok, now it's forex, MT4, indicators... nice stuff!

If you embark on this journey, there is a lot of evolution involved. evolution in the sense of getting your mind around things... don't forget, you're in the same system, you're not apart from it... so you too are influenced by ups and downs, peaks and bottoms, trends and accumulations. It takes time to master, even Fxbandito will agee on that, that you can't master anything within a few weeks or months or years. You've got to put in at least 3 years full-time.

I'm doing this for a number of years now and even until today there are people like Fxbandito who consider that I know nothing. I mean, I pale in front of these people who obviously have more than 50 years of experience.

So we can only look up to these people and try to understand their motives for saying anything at all. Until we do understand people like Fxbandito, we all are just learning.
  • #4,287
  • Edited Apr 1, 2012 2:31pm Mar 31, 2012 3:50pm | Edited Apr 1, 2012 2:31pm
No offence STI, I thought you sounded a bit animated :-)

Ok here we go on a nice EURUSD projection, nothing up my sleeve. My cycle analysis says 31.March to 8.April my sweet spot is 4.April My astro analysis would put the 6th as my target day. My target for a high is 1.35731 or 1.35118. Please someone define a high based on planetary aspects.

What do I hope to see as a reaction is certainly of some decent amount 350-400 pips, I have no idea what the reaction will be, but suffice to say I would expect in excess of 200 pips.

So, no horse ****, highly defined time and price area, to those that know what they are up to, this is what you can do if you but try.

Peace to all

Mike Haran

Having seen the Jupiter sun aspect on the GBPJPY could it also be 134 equates into 1.34,certainly worth watchin.
  • #4,288
  • Edited 5:26pm Mar 31, 2012 4:01pm | Edited 5:26pm
here's what im getting with my calcs. price is calculated from the low of 1.26436 on Jan 15, 2012, using the transit aspects of select planets

1st target: 1.34347

4/5/12 (pink) is 1x1 hourly from low on 3/14/2012, 4/11/12 (green) is 1x1 daily from 1/15/2012

currently the hourly angle seems to be holding


my scaling: 1x1 hourly: 10pips/hr, 1x1 daily: 10pips/day
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  • #4,289
  • Mar 31, 2012 4:35pm Mar 31, 2012 4:35pm
Quoting egkid
In case u still interested and still remember my early post
My turning point changed to 3350

I know i post depends on my own system which is Not Astro AS u guys use and seems no one interested here about my view so thinking I will stop interrupted the thread.
It close 10 pip under it, Love this dilemma LOL chess game
  • #4,290
  • Mar 31, 2012 5:24pm Mar 31, 2012 5:24pm
Question
From your experience what happen when PA hit 90 degree point?
I'm new with SQ9
  • #4,291
  • Apr 1, 2012 7:20am Apr 1, 2012 7:20am
Following on from my research into the astro aspects of price movement I am nowgoing to forecast a top about 1 month away from where we are now.At the moment the GBPJPY is trading at 132.64, my forecast is that it will make a top around the 14th May. My wheel of 24 gives the following price areas ,145,148 Using price projection techniques as we stand my price levels are 146.26How do I know which one its going to hit, lets do a simple calculation, so far the GBPJPY has moved 69 days from the low on the 13th of Jan and has travelled 1617 points so its travelling at a rate of 23.43 pips a day.Now to hit my target on the 14th May 2012 it will have travelled 123 day, so 123 X 23.43 means it should travel 2881.89 pips from the low on Jan 13, at the current rate of vibration it should hit 146 as a short target My choice of price for the GBPJPY on the 14.5.2012 is 146.26.Nice to give such a precise forecast, lets see what happens.All the bestMike Haran
  • #4,292
  • Apr 1, 2012 7:32am Apr 1, 2012 7:32am
Quoting Sti
No, not really... when I was learning this stuff there was no Forex Factory, and Gann material was difficult to get. So you have a luxury position because you have got indicators like the Planet Lines that should be able to get you on your way. Heck, you have MateTrader for that matter! When I started on stocks I had to call my broker by phone!

But ok, now it's forex, MT4, indicators... nice stuff!

If you embark on this journey, there is a lot of evolution involved. evolution in the sense of getting your mind around things... don't forget,...
this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  • #4,293
  • Apr 1, 2012 7:57am Apr 1, 2012 7:57am
Thanks for all the replies. A hint was given and might be the guide to my path that I was waiting for. If there was a reputation or thanks button I'll hit every single one for you guys. Sadly, there's none. There are vouchers but I couldn't vouch for you guys so, I'll just say that I'm vouching for these guys. xD

I'm not rushing into things. I just wanted to be pointed to the right direction for my research instead of reading every book I see.

+ any of the indicators that I've got my hands on aren't working. I have all the files. Heck, I even went to the russian forum even if I didn't understand any. Even bumasoft's indi's(the free ones) are not working.

I placed all the files correctly though. Maybe it's just the settings?
There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force.
  • #4,294
  • Apr 1, 2012 8:02am Apr 1, 2012 8:02am
Quoting kiranitoot
.... Heck, I even went to the russian forum even if I didn't understand any.....
If you are talking about this one here, this the english version:

http://www.gann.su/book_eng.html


- which you get from index on the left column.
  • #4,295
  • Apr 1, 2012 8:38am Apr 1, 2012 8:38am
Quoting SunTrader
If you are talking about this one here, this the english version:

http://www.gann.su/book_eng.html


- which you get from index on the left column.
Thanks, was talking about the astroindicator and the planetline indicators.

I got the moonphase indi working though.
There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force.
  • #4,296
  • Apr 1, 2012 11:20am Apr 1, 2012 11:20am
Having spent the past 8 hours or so looking at the GBPJPY I can see it corrolates nicely with Sun Jupiter aspects 30,60,90 etc. Ganns angles are not exact, I have no idea why, maybe he was using other material too. But you can see reactions around all of these angles.3/4 April the Sun forms a 30 degree aspect with Jupiter, my fractal analysis points to a top at 134.40, on my Gann wheel using the suns aspect of 13.84, I get a price of 134, ie 120 degrees away from the suns aspect.Jupiter is 43.80 degrees on this day so round this up to 44 add 90 and we get to 134. So on the 3rd April both the sun and Jupiter form a thirty degree aspect and the both form a relationship with 134.Sun at 120 degrees and Jupiter at 90 degrees. Because I am interested in this analysis and the people that post weird stuff like find the inner you or this is a path of discoverry to find yourself, need to get with the program...and the trolls that come and scorn, I did it to show the analysis in a scientific way. Its a method, if you dont know how to do it then get your price chart pick your favourite pair and go back in time, looking firstly for a relationship that might be good, then look how often price reacts around the angles like 0 45 90 180, test other angles do they work better, look at when they fail, ask why, test again. Keep doing it until you see what works and what is good for trashing.All the bestMike Haranor use a small stop sell the GBPJPY and use the money to buy some books.
  • #4,297
  • Apr 1, 2012 1:39pm Apr 1, 2012 1:39pm
I haven't really been able to find indicators for this, the ones posted by suryananada before don't seem to work

But not having an indicator did help me develop a better understanding of the timing/nature of events. Sort of like how way back when were in math class at school they'll make you prove the formula manually first before applying it.
  • #4,298
  • Edited 5:37pm Apr 1, 2012 5:25pm | Edited 5:37pm
For those who have issues with the planet lines, there are basically three things that need to be done properly:

1) put all the files in the right directories (actually all files except the planetline.mql and swedll32.dll go in the metatrader/experts/include directory)

2) if you do not have any other astro program installed, you most likely will have to do the following:
- locate the swedll32.dll, go to this directory through the command prompt (Start->Run->type here: cmd)
- use the DOS cd command to change directories to get to the place where your dll is
- type here: regsvr32 swedll32.dll

3) understand the internal workings of this indicator
- Octaves are bands of 360 degrees, so perhaps the lines ARE drawing but are drawing so far up or down from current price that you can't see them
- K is pips(actually points) per degree, do yourself a favour, put them on a 1000 if you're not mixing planets, put the moon on 3000 (for EURUSD)
  • #4,299
  • Apr 1, 2012 5:39pm Apr 1, 2012 5:39pm
Quoting JR97
this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
sucks? sorry just how i felt
  • #4,300
  • Apr 1, 2012 11:51pm Apr 1, 2012 11:51pm
Is there a way to get a list of stocks based on price parameters?

For example: List of stocks between $45-$50...

Again, I'm not looking to find the price of stocks, instead I'm looking to find which stocks are in certain price ranges...

Please help...
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