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  • #61
  • Feb 25, 2012 8:28pm Feb 25, 2012 8:28pm
Quoting brooky29
Hi all.
Updated indicator includes.

1) All the stuff it had before :-)

2) Option to show Bar cycles of your length from auto MTF start point or where you manually place the control bar.

3) Option to turn on a double Gann Grid that will auto calculate from the Cycle period that you enter.

4) All objects should ( if I got it right ) be available to each copy you put on chart as long as you change the alpha character for each copy on chart as before.

Now that there are a larger amount of variables, it would be very helpful if those...


If traders cannot manually work the excel file given in the beginning of this thread, most likely you guys wont find consistency using this method. The first indicator Brooky made is perfect enough and yet traders wants it curve fitted because they don't understand how to use it. Gann did not give hard rules for traders to follow because that would be too easy but instead he left clues in all of his writings for us to decipher. This is why I'm so hesitant to put up charts because I don't think anyone on this thread read any of Gann's books at all. Applying GannSq9 without knowing its context and true formula is the biggest fallacy of all. I would suggest traders strap them self down because Gann's techniques takes years to master.

Good Luck To Everybody's Grueling Journey.
  • #62
  • Feb 26, 2012 7:02am Feb 26, 2012 7:02am
Jer21
I respect your suggestion, but to know that as an arabic trader, I read most of Gann's books and illustrations, even tested the methodology of square of 5 in time and price effect on prices based on previous H/L swings. But any how , there is no limit for today prospectived tradeds and their urgent demand to simplify theses rules of Gann into simple charts. In the Arabic World of traders , we have an excellent and distinguished trader named "Hamadasalam". He put rules and facts about how to trade forex based on Gann's ideas. Always , humanbeing must seek moderm techniques to develop old ideas , to get benifet from them and how to apply these techniques into our side is the last dream for any trader.
Hope to see more charts and more new ideas from members of this thread.
Hence , we can go furhter.
Plz accept my full respect to what you suggested but different ideas must not make us hate each others.
  • #63
  • Mar 2, 2012 7:52pm Mar 2, 2012 7:52pm
I just wanted to say THANKS,these gann lines has helped in my trading!
Hope this thread keeps on going with such great info being shared, Sure enjoy reading all the comments here and learning.
  • #64
  • Mar 9, 2012 1:59pm Mar 9, 2012 1:59pm
Hi all,

I am new to ForexFactory but have been told by a friend to look at this thread as I trade using Gann.
I note that there have been no messages since Mar 2nd, I hope that there are still members interested who will be willing to assist in how to trade with the mq4's developed by Brooky29.
If anyone is monitoring this thread I would be pleased to hear your views.

Regards Allonso
  • #65
  • Mar 10, 2012 9:42am Mar 10, 2012 9:42am
im too in the way learning and deepen the gann technique
hope will learn together
  • #66
  • Mar 11, 2012 6:54am Mar 11, 2012 6:54am
Hi Rexfo,

Do you trade using Gann or are you trying to learn?

Allonso
  • #67
  • Mar 11, 2012 9:46am Mar 11, 2012 9:46am
I dont know why this very important subject is paused. Where are moneydeep, brooky, .. all others. We need more interaction and more testing on the indicators to make it applicable to forecast next day trading opportunities if possible.
  • #68
  • Mar 12, 2012 11:33am Mar 12, 2012 11:33am
Hi Naser_Mohamm,
I agree with you entirely, such an important subject should still be actively under discussion.
I was hoping that some of the previous guys with the expertise would return and help those of us who do not fully understand the operation of the indicators even if we do know a fair bit about Gann trading.

I traded Gann on stocks for many years and now need some help in applying the principles to Forex. Anyone with knowledge of the lastest Moneydeep indicator and can tell me why the cycle lines jump from where I place them, will be welcomed.

Regards Allonso
  • #69
  • Mar 12, 2012 12:12pm Mar 12, 2012 12:12pm
Quoting allonso
Hi Naser_Mohamm,
I agree with you entirely, such an important subject should still be actively under discussion.
I was hoping that some of the previous guys with the expertise would return and help those of us who do not fully understand the operation of the indicators even if we do know a fair bit about Gann trading.

I traded Gann on stocks for many years and now need some help in applying the principles to Forex. Anyone with knowledge of the lastest Moneydeep indicator and can tell me why the cycle lines jump from where I place them, will...
Allonso and others Hi,
I still monitor the thread and get pm's from guys who want to know things, so if I get a message that something needs clearing up I am happy to help.
As you may have read earlier in the thread, I do not use this indicator in my own trading, however I do use some of the logic entwined with other indicators.
I was actually hoping for some more Gann related charts from active Gann traders, but it seems as if Gann officienados are very secretive about such things, Much more than regular traders with regular systems.
With regard to the cycle lines jumping, I can only assume that you are moving the bar and then watching the cycles jump back to where they were on the next tick. If that is the case then the option UseAutoTfHiLos needs to be turned OFF. That should keep the cycles in position.
In the interests of adding to the discussion, I will prepare a chart with my chosen supply demand style of trading and post it up as a way of adding another flavour into the mix.
Cheers
Brooky
  • #70
  • Mar 12, 2012 1:16pm Mar 12, 2012 1:16pm
Hi all.
As mentioned before, I did up a chart with my way of picking a valid point to use for setting a grid up.
Since I use supply and demand logic in my own trading, it seemed natural to use a very significant recent point of supply as a starter point for the bar, and for later levels, one would just follow the lower lows down by dragging the bottom of the control bar down.
What I found interesting was the pinpoint timing of the lowest low of the NFP effect on a time cycle that was in place from the moment the first touch was made on the big supply bar up top many hours before.
The chart has my notes on it, but it may be interesting when picking points in the past, to think of them as how important a rejection they were in terms of supply and demand.
One can also see why today has been a ping pong match between the close supply and demand levels before supply was finally exhausted.
I am still long from this morning so I am hoping they are in search of some more supply up north.
I would love to hear from a Gann trader as to what their call would be in a situation like this.
Cheers
Brooky
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  • #71
  • Mar 12, 2012 3:16pm Mar 12, 2012 3:16pm
Hi Brooky,
Welcome back! So nice that someone with indicator knowledge is back on this thread.
I mainly use the 15 min chart, so if do as you say and change the daily timing from 1440 to 15, am I then on track to make things work.

Can you please explain where and how you get the "supply and demand logic bars" is this another of your great indicators?

On another note, I attempted to program a line indicator. It works after a fashion but doesent acheive all I wanted. Is there any chance you would consider having a look at it, if I sent you the mq4 and detail of what I am trying to do.

Thanks for your return maybe now other interested parties may also show up with their experiences and we can get the discussion motoring again.

Regards Allonso
  • #72
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:45pm Mar 12, 2012 7:45pm
Quoting allonso
Hi Brooky,
Welcome back! So nice that someone with indicator knowledge is back on this thread.
I mainly use the 15 min chart, so if do as you say and change the daily timing from 1440 to 15, am I then on track to make things work.

Can you please explain where and how you get the "supply and demand logic bars" is this another of your great indicators?

On another note, I attempted to program a line indicator. It works after a fashion but doesent acheive all I wanted. Is there any chance you would consider having a look at it, if I sent...
Allonso

Regarding changing the timing to M15:
1) If the UseAutoTfHiLos option is set to true, the indi will find the High and Low of that timeframe to set itself to. If you are using M15, I would suggest to leave it at any period bigger than that.

2) If the UseAutoTfHiLos option is set to false, you can achieve what I have on the chart because you can pull the control bar onto any bar of your choice and then elongate it to a relevant point as I have done.

Re: "supply and demand logic bars". I do have a supply demand indi which has not been released as yet ( it will be commercial ), but this is just a general term used. If you want to know more about Supply and Demand, there are some good threads here or you can go to my website educational area where you can sign up for a whole stack of stuff that will explain it and much more in detail from the partnership we have with the online trading academy.

Re: Line indi. If you do not want to share here you can always pm me and I can have a look for you.

Cheers
Brooky
  • #73
  • Mar 13, 2012 11:23am Mar 13, 2012 11:23am
Hi Brooky29,
Thanks for the information on "Supply & Demand" will have a look at the appropriate threads and maybe your own website as well.

I am quite OK with sharing the line mq4 but would advise anyone interested to not copy or use it in it's present state as they will not be very happy with some of the problems.

As it is not related to Gann I suppose if I am allowed it would be sensible to start a thread to explain the theory and how I use it.

Anyway the idea was to make an indicator that would place as many horizontal lines as required, from a selected starting point at a pre-selected spacing.
It does everything I wanted except for the following:

1. Delete all lines from the window, from the selection of any line. I thought that ObjectsDeleteAll(); would achieve it, but it doesent.

2. I have not found a way to replace the pre-selected spacing from a value of the type 0.005 to a simpler type 50 pips.

Other than that it does mainly what I intended, I can plot lines Up from a value or Down by adding a - sign in front of the selected spacing values.

Hope it will not be too much trouble to ammend the code, it will also help me in my understaning of mq4 coding. As this was my first attempt I am quite pleased it at least does some of what I intended.

Regards Allonso
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  • #74
  • Mar 13, 2012 12:23pm Mar 13, 2012 12:23pm
Quoting allonso
Hi Brooky29,
Thanks for the information on "Supply & Demand" will have a look at the appropriate threads and maybe your own website as well.........

1. Delete all lines from the window, from the selection of any line. I thought that ObjectsDeleteAll(); would achieve it, but it doesent.........

2. I have not found a way to replace the pre-selected spacing from a value of the type 0.005 to a simpler type 50 pips..........

Regards Allonso
Allonso.

Good first effort.

Problems as described appear to be fixed.
Cheers
Brooky
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File Type: mq4 Selectable Horizontal LinesV2.mq4   4 KB | 1,650 downloads
  • #75
  • Mar 13, 2012 2:51pm Mar 13, 2012 2:51pm
Hi Brooky29,

Wow that was a fast response. Only one problem and that is:

1. Delete all lines from the window, from the selection of any line. I thought that ObjectsDeleteAll(); would achieve it, but it doesent.........


I have loaded and tried this and the only thing I can do is dbl click on a line and that line deletes, but all the rest are still showing in the window.
Is it something I am doing wrong?

Regards Allonso
  • #76
  • Mar 13, 2012 6:01pm Mar 13, 2012 6:01pm
Quoting allonso
Hi Brooky29,

Wow that was a fast response. Only one problem and that is:

1. Delete all lines from the window, from the selection of any line. I thought that ObjectsDeleteAll(); would achieve it, but it doesent.........


I have loaded and tried this and the only thing I can do is dbl click on a line and that line deletes, but all the rest are still showing in the window.
Is it something I am doing wrong?

Regards Allonso
Allonso Hi

Maybe I am not of full understanding here but it appears as if you want the effect of unloading the indicator by having all the lines disappear yet still have an indicator resident in memory not showing anything? The deletion of the lines does not unload the indicator.

Or perhaps you want the indicator on the chart, empty but ready to do something?? Maybe a prompt on chart that it is running is needed then. Let me know.

Cheers

Brooky
  • #77
  • Mar 13, 2012 6:08pm Mar 13, 2012 6:08pm
Hi all

Just a note to those who are contributing or lurking that i am in the process of finishing the next version that has 6 circles to choose from, an auto cycle identifier and a few other goodies, so don't throw Moneydeeps ( Hi mate where are you? ) thread in the bin just yet :-)
I have done this to make it easier for those that really don't get Gann at all to get some auto use out of the indicator. For those that really do get Gann, I realize that the surface is only being scratched here but I hope that you are getting some use out of the indi's.
cheers
Brooky
  • #78
  • Mar 13, 2012 6:15pm Mar 13, 2012 6:15pm
I just wanted to say thanks for keep updating the indicators, keep up the GREAT work.
  • #79
  • Mar 14, 2012 5:46am Mar 14, 2012 5:46am
Hi Brooky29,

Sorry to cause you so much bother.
What I hoped to be able to do was not delete the indicator from charts/indicators list, but just as you can double click on any line and delete it, I thought that there might be a way to delete all lines from the screen with one click.
I hope I have explained it well enough for you to understand what I hope to acheive.

Regards Allonso
  • #80
  • Mar 14, 2012 6:24am Mar 14, 2012 6:24am
Hi,

There were quite a number that showed interest in Gann trading following Moneydeeps posting of his excel calculator on this thread.

Where are you now and why won't you post of your experiences with the Brooky29 indicator. To see the graphics of trades made would not only help beginners but futher the discussion of Gann and his methods.

Don't be shy, take part in this interesting method.

Allonso
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