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  • #62,381
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:33am Mar 6, 2012 9:33am
dollar side influences affecting this decline, us yields are falling as risk aversion is increasing, resulting in dollar strength...
  • #62,382
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:36am Mar 6, 2012 9:36am
Quoting Mr Hatch
do you have a downside target for the aj yet? all I could go with is the huge gartley.
im not getting crazy... if its just a bounce off the down trend.. we got 3000 pips. if it goes down 3000 pips. it targets 3k more.. 3k more is actually third world standards -... i doubt this could happen.. so 4500... 3000 + 50% (1500)= 4500... we live in ozz... take out the last 20 years of china and its possible. anything is possible..

japan is rolling 3 trillion $ worth of debt this month. and all the financial sit around with their finger in their ass, saying all fine. these people have no commodities. all they have is manufacturing. the yen is too high.. and with Europe and the u.s. buying less oil. the yen will gain as long as oil drops. the aud will weaken as oil drops. we had a tech bounce last year. that don't mean its over. the world don't want that low broken. oil was just at the top of the range. 4$ u.s. gas is where it turned last year.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #62,383
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:37am Mar 6, 2012 9:37am
So we're gonna do this all day long, yes?
  • #62,384
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:39am Mar 6, 2012 9:39am
Quoting Mr Hatch
thanks, that's way more realistic than what I had in mind, but couldn't justify fa-wise for now.
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  • #62,385
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:42am Mar 6, 2012 9:42am
Quoting FibbinArchie
if they were dumb enough to buy greek debt in the first place, that's a long shot gamble if ever i saw one..

170% debt to gdp!!!

http://demonocracy.info/infographics...ebt_greek.html
what about japan? 200%
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  • #62,386
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:46am Mar 6, 2012 9:46am
e/u bolly band squeeze on m5, whatever the fuck that means...

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  • #62,387
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:48am Mar 6, 2012 9:48am
3109.5 is a s.. if we bounce here back to 3172/88.. don't get your panties in a knot
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  • #62,388
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:51am Mar 6, 2012 9:51am
Quoting gatorinla
what about japan? 200%
shocking, but at least they have a manufacturing base..
  • #62,389
  • Mar 6, 2012 9:53am Mar 6, 2012 9:53am
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  • #62,390
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:01am Mar 6, 2012 10:01am
Quoting FibbinArchie
shocking, but at least they have a manufacturing base..
they live on a volcano with a aging population. the high yen is killing their manufacturing. so they do their best to deflate it. but they import every drop of oil. this bubble will not last forever. they deflate and pay more for oil used in manufacturing. a huge government subsidized system only able to work because of this. last year they had a wave... it wiped out a nuke plant.. now they will close all the nukes. so they want energy to replace it. energy at a higher price. this cant last forever.. its cheaper to manufacture other places.
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  • #62,391
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:03am Mar 6, 2012 10:03am
londres fix and we've not taken out the low..

the buck stops here???????? (for now at least, could be wrong, dyor)
  • #62,392
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:04am Mar 6, 2012 10:04am
Quoting gatorinla
they live on a volcano with a aging population. the high yen is killing their manufacturing. so they do their best to deflate it. but they import every drop of oil. this bubble will not last forever. they deflate and pay more for oil used in manufacturing. a huge government subsidized system only able to work because of this. last year they had a wave... it wiped out a nuke plant.. now they will close all the nukes. so they want energy to replace it. energy at a higher price. this cant last forever.. its cheaper to manufacture other places.
hence the high debt to gdp to guess...
  • #62,393
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:10am Mar 6, 2012 10:10am
Quoting FibbinArchie
hence the high debt to gdp to guess...
the people own/buy most of the debt. they are famous for being savers. those savers are getting old. all japan needs is one more bad day. the foundation is built on a volcano.
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  • #62,394
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:12am Mar 6, 2012 10:12am
Quoting attila
So we're gonna do this all day long, yes?
yes.
  • #62,395
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:13am Mar 6, 2012 10:13am


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  • #62,396
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:14am Mar 6, 2012 10:14am
Quoting gatorinla
the people own/buy most of the debt. they are famous for being savers. those savers are getting old. all japan needs is one more bad day. the foundation is built on a volcano.
yeah i actually read 2011 debt to gdp of 225%, but only 5% of that held outside of japan...
  • #62,397
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:22am Mar 6, 2012 10:22am
Quoting FibbinArchie
yeah i actually read 2011 debt to gdp of 225%, but only 5% of that held outside of japan...
and with higher energy the odds of manufacturing in japan decreases. less manufacturing decreases gdp. snowball affect.
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  • #62,398
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:23am Mar 6, 2012 10:23am
Quoting gatorinla
and with higher energy the odds of manufacturing in japan decreases. less manufacturing decreases gdp. snowball affect.
Japan recently became net importer..
  • #62,399
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:24am Mar 6, 2012 10:24am
Quoting gatorinla
and with higher energy the odds of manufacturing in japan decreases. less manufacturing decreases gdp. snowball affect.
vicious circle...
  • #62,400
  • Mar 6, 2012 10:25am Mar 6, 2012 10:25am
Quoting attila
Japan recently became net importer..
global economic downturn has to be harming demand for their exports big time...

consumer electricals and automotive i suspect being two of their largest sectors...

edit- that coupled with unprecedented yen strength...
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