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  • #24,321
  • Feb 27, 2012 1:58am Feb 27, 2012 1:58am
Quoting 45Condor
Hi Chonchy - G20 meeting.

And as suspected, all not going smoothly:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...-firewall.html
...........Hello Sr., and thankyou........how was your weekend?
The Chonchy
  • #24,322
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:04am Feb 27, 2012 2:04am
.............But extra money is adding wood to the fire 45condor correct if I'm wrong, of course is the trader mentality that if there is more money, things will improbe and for ended they will invest on the euro, but at the end, more wood is more fire, more money more unpaible debt, I think this countries are in this predicament because of lack of work, to much goverment, to much waiste, not only lack of liquidity, moneytizing the debt is got desastrous consecuences in the past, don't it?

...........My 2 cents, I just see this G20 games of "I'm not giving," as the same games Paulson play with congress and the people here, congress scream and say first, we are not printing and then Paulson scare them a bit and the printing begins, remember we control, and we are banksters and our job is to print, but we can't tell that to the people that elect us, we politicians have to do our front job, but our real job is to help the banksters lend their precius fresh printed money, and where is IMF fresh print come from, the same place the last fresh print came from, the american tax payers, in a form of federal reserve fiat, unlawfull fresh printed money, me think..........we are gething screw here I beleive and it ain't with oil, so it herts..........
The Chonchy
  • #24,323
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:10am Feb 27, 2012 2:10am
Happy Start of week for all of u
  • #24,324
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:14am Feb 27, 2012 2:14am
Quoting dswk
Happy Start of week for all of u
.........the same to you dswk, the same in deed.........
The Chonchy
  • #24,325
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:16am Feb 27, 2012 2:16am
.............I think this bastards did the usual frankie fake and is going to keep pulling back, to where..........? to the red EMA100 on the 30M chart of the franc previusly posted, maybe...........we will just have to wait and see how she rolls, like Turtle say..........
The Chonchy
  • #24,326
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:19am Feb 27, 2012 2:19am
Weekend was good - spent the majority of both days at the stables... new horse and all that.

Your comments regarding the G20 and monetizing debt - agree. The only people to really suffer from this are those least likely to benefit from it... your average citizen paying a mortgage whilst trying to save a few pennies for a rainy day. Retirement provisions - pff, that is where the real hurt is waiting, and most people are unaware of this as it is not money that they have yet to try to make use of, and so do not consider. However, it would be good to read the views of some who are trying to make ends meet on their monthyl retirement checks, whilst inflation - real, that is, and not that proclaimed by governments - ravages their standard of living.
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  • #24,327
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:21am Feb 27, 2012 2:21am
Quoting dswk
Happy Start of week for all of u
And to you, too. Chonchy and I have started the week off by calling all on the inside of banking, lying, cheating @insert preferred profanity here'.

Yep, should be a good week.
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  • #24,328
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:22am Feb 27, 2012 2:22am
Quoting 45Condor
she drives the same lawnmower as me... and I just ordered a new ground roller for the back lawn - so that I can level the lawn a little. The following comment is pathetic, but true - I'm exicited. Yeah, some people might be excited by a new car, holiday or whatever... me, a 300 Euro plastic drum that I can fill with water and drag around my lawn.

...I'm such a loser!
it was the same with me and a part I order last week for my sharp aquos that broke and the guarante is expired...........I was so exited untill it came and it wasn't the part the is broken, so now the technician made me waiste 155+13s/h=168 in a part that I can't give back........oh well, I'm such a loser, also..........biger, floffe, or what ever is called......
The Chonchy
  • #24,329
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:28am Feb 27, 2012 2:28am
Quoting 45Condor
Weekend was good - spent the majority of both days at the stables... new horse and all that.

Your comments regarding the G20 and monetizing debt - agree. The only people to really suffer from this are those least likely to benefit from it... your average citizen paying a mortgage whilst trying to save a few pennies for a rainy day. Retirement provisions - pff, that is where the real hurt is waiting, and most people are unaware of this as it is not money that they have yet to try to make use of, and so do not consider. However, it would be good...

correct, people have being saving all their life, and this bankster print their money, lend it, collect it, get interest on it, the buy fisical gold and save it, the caos comes in, (created by them) wars and devastation, and this folks lose their hard earn saves and this banksters keep their gold, then just by magic they make a great come back in their gold and this old folks are screw and I repeat without oil, wish herts a lot..........
The Chonchy
  • #24,330
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:33am Feb 27, 2012 2:33am
Quoting chonchy
it was the same with me and a part I order last week for my sharp aquos that broke and the guarante is expired...........I was so exited untill it came and it wasn't the part the is broken, so now the technician made me waiste 155+13s/h=168 in a part that I can't give back........oh well, I'm such a loser, also..........biger, floffe, or what ever is called......
EDIT: About an hour long, so perhaps better watching after trading session. Very good video.

Planned Obsolescence

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  • #24,331
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:34am Feb 27, 2012 2:34am
Quoting 45Condor
If we could get rid of the 5% of society that make life a misery for the rest, and then maintain a system whereby no one person or group of, could persuade the rest, we would be living in relative eutopia. Sadly, human nature is such that there will always be those vying for power.

...........Maybe even get a visit from some distant galaxy with some help to move on to biger and bether things, but do you think I'm going to past by and see this primitives killing each other with this primitives missiles for oil, and help, no way man, I will turn back and disapear, tell my friend, lets get the feck out of here man, this people are still fighting over oil and gold like we left them 1000 of years ago when we past by here to help them, they haven't change a bit, lets go, and pff they left......and there it goes our new tech and future............oh well they will come back some day, lets just hope like you sai that we could remove this 5% of crap that is calling the shots right now.........
The Chonchy
  • #24,332
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:34am Feb 27, 2012 2:34am
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  • #24,333
  • Edited 3:46am Feb 27, 2012 2:41am | Edited 3:46am
Quoting 45Condor
EDIT: About an hour long, so perhaps better watching after trading session. Very good video.

Planned Obsolescence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DCwN28y8o
............Jesus man, an hour of video now? to see more prove that we are being screw without oil, by the same people? ok I will read it, but just because I love you and respect you so much, I'll see it............

.............jsut kidding man,t hanks a lot..........let me wacth it.......be back.......some coffe?
The Chonchy
  • #24,334
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:44am Feb 27, 2012 2:44am
Quoting chonchy
............Jesus man, an hour of video now? to see more prove that we are being screw without oil, by the same people? ok I will read it, but just because I love you and respect you so much, I'll see it............

.............jsut kidding man,t hanks a lot..........let me wacth it.......be back.......some coffe?
I'd watch after you finish trading. I watched in bed on the big TV, with a little tipple of red wine to help digest the facts presented.
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  • #24,335
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:48am Feb 27, 2012 2:48am
...and if the dragging of feet continues, and news is on your side for the market players to use to show their hand, I'm thinking that you may be able to save some of your shorts.

No chart, as my position is speculative, but I've taken a short on EU with an initial target somewhere around the 1.33 level.
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  • #24,336
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:52am Feb 27, 2012 2:52am
going short eurodol 3430 (around PP) stop 40 pips. let see ^^
It's a 50/50 trade
  • #24,337
  • Edited 5:13am Feb 27, 2012 2:54am | Edited 5:13am
Quoting 45Condor
...and if the dragging of feet continues, and news is on your side for the market players to use to show their hand, I'm thinking that you may be able to save some of your shorts.

No chart, as my position is speculative, but I've taken a short on EU with an initial target somewhere around the 1.33 level.
...............3340 is all I need to breake even, with all the adding that I did up to 3487, no chart, is shamefull........... but no don't worrie drow down is unlimited, unnesesary but unlimited, I know that chillypiper say that the market can stay irrational longer than your acc but constingency plans have being stablish over the years of suffering, not same profits but no worries eather.........thanks for the concern anyways Sr. is realy appriciated..........
The Chonchy
  • #24,338
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:59am Feb 27, 2012 2:59am
Here's the chart.
I just buy/sell my circles ^^
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  • #24,339
  • Feb 27, 2012 2:59am Feb 27, 2012 2:59am
Quoting dswk
going short eurodol 3430 (around PP) stop 40 pips. let see ^^
It's a 50/50 trade
...........good entrie dswk lets see how she rolls.....
The Chonchy
  • #24,340
  • Feb 27, 2012 3:08am Feb 27, 2012 3:08am
My position is based on a mix of technical possibilities, and fundamental almost-certainties.

It seems quite clear that the IMF do not have the money to boost any European firewall, and the Americans do not want to pour more good money after bad into the IMF until the Germans get on board. Well, given the comments from the Germans this weekend, and the American frustrations, I see the situation as that until one side gives in and pays up, the other will not.

A stand-off, if you like.

And so I think we have more can kicking, with all sides wanting to hold out for the bond payments on March 10th - or insurance calls - and then the unfurling of what I think is the final plan... which is to let Greece default. Whether this is soft or not, I am not sure, but one thing is for certain, it will not be soft for the Greeks.

PS. I would not want to be one of those 160 German tax collectors that are being sent to Greece to help the Greek authorities collect tax from individuals - if caught alone on a street, they will likely be lynched.

PPS. It would be interesting to see how many Germans in Greece are already trying to speak English with an English accent, to avoid detection.
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