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Quoting Toranaga
sorry, when i click dukascopy window ,the scalper's box immediately hides under the duka's window.
why ???http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
The same here. It because it behaves as a separate window.

One klick at the windows task bar and you have it up again.

There isnt a other way..
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Quoting Toranaga
The same here. It because it behaves as a separate window.

One klick at the windows task bar and you have it up again.

There isnt a other way..
Huh, please tell me that when you right click on the title bar there is no option (checkbox) to keep that window always on top?
:: everything is awesome ::
Forex Control Center doesnt work with the JForex CSV data
myfxbook also not.

Is there a another tool / site where you can track your JForex portfolio
and analyze the trades ?
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Sent the paperwork today.
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Could anyone please tell me the options to get dukascopy feed/liquidity but using the mt4 platform? I heard that FXDD does this but not sure if it is through mt4, anyway I will check it out. But are there any other brokers that I can look into that offer this?
Quoting Toranaga
Hi Toranaga,
Can you please advise which folder to put this dukascalper?

New to dukas platform.

Thanks in advance for the reply.
Btw, I've traded DEMO with them for a couple of months already and appears that I got used to the platform. To some extent it feels better than MT4.

Anyone opened account with them recently? How long does the paperwork bureaucracy take? I hate waiting :7
Quoting Uilen
Btw, I've traded DEMO with them for a couple of months already and appears that I got used to the platform. To some extent it feels better than MT4.

Anyone opened account with them recently? How long does the paperwork bureaucracy take? I hate waiting :7
It depends, for me it took like 2 month, than I gave up
Asked to sign papers: I have signed, asked to send passport copy, I have sent. Than it was the problem, with my signature: in parer signed recently it looks like different, than is the passport signed 5 years ago and a n ID card signed 10 years ago. As I remember several times I was called by phone from ducascopy during this "process".
Probably if I would falsify my ID card or passport to match the signature and match the signature on the forms and other requirements they would accept me

Not sure if is still there the Vlad Yermakoff, but until it is and he is "the support" I will not open with they live account, because no chance for me - last try it was at dec 30, 2010 .

Somebody tell me if he was kicked out / left from Ducas and I am free to register, and if my signature if is good for my country authorities (Police and any official intrtitution), than is good for Ducas too !
I want to buy PATIENCE
Quoting matheszabi
It depends, for me it took like 2 month, than I gave up
Asked to sign papers: I have signed, asked to send passport copy, I have sent. Than it was the problem, with my signature: in parer signed recently it looks like different, than is the passport signed 5 years ago and a n ID card signed 10 years ago. As I remember several times I was called by phone from ducascopy during this "process".
Probably if I would falsify my ID card or passport to match the signature and match the signature on the forms and other requirements they would accept...
Loooool

Have you tried refreshing your documents? By the way, policemen don't recognize me on my driving license cause I had long hair when I was 18. The last time I got stopped they tried to persuade me that the driving license belongs to my sister

Anyway, I asked the question because they have this Dukascopy Europe now and as it is not under the Swiss regulation (if I understand it correctly) and from what I have heard they have lessened this paperwork thing cause this branch is orientated on retail clients and the EU regulation is not that strict (you can use your credit card to fund the account, min deposit 100$, etc. )

So has anyone tried it? I read through this thread and I did not find any butt-hurting issues that were not resolved. Their support even cared enough to give some answers here. So the only thing that prevents me from opening an AC at them is my laziness and hatred to papers.
As i said, paperwork is on the way.

Print out, make 10 signatures and do 2 copys.

That was all.
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Quoting zu si fu
Hi Toranaga,
Can you please advise which folder to put this dukascalper?

New to dukas platform.

Thanks in advance for the reply.

Folder Own Documents & Settings / JForex / Strategies
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Quoting matheszabi
It depends, for me it took like 2 month, than I gave up
Asked to sign papers: I have signed, asked to send passport copy, I have sent. Than it was the problem, with my signature: in parer signed recently it looks like different, than is the passport signed 5 years ago and a n ID card signed 10 years ago. As I remember several times I was called by phone from ducascopy during this "process".
Probably if I would falsify my ID card or passport to match the signature and match the signature on the forms and other requirements they would accept...
took me almost 3 months, but i'm happy with dukascopy. after a couple months i was looking into opening with another company but then the ball started to move and i held off going with mb trading.
Quoting Toranaga
The same here. It because it behaves as a separate window.

One klick at the windows task bar and you have it up again.

There isnt a other way..

there is

http://www.skybn.com/success/window-on-top.html

use that tool "Windows on top"
Thanks, but did not needed it
Will try it..
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
Quoting flyingiguana
took me almost 3 months, but i'm happy with dukascopy. after a couple months i was looking into opening with another company but then the ball started to move and i held off going with mb trading.
I 3 months you can hack / crack they site ) - not to open an account, with all legal papers...Maybe I have to high expectations, but I have tried and opened live account and didn't took 2 month. Also I am playing with they demo version. They did very nice work for iPhone app too! and they java based platform has a lot more feature than Oanda's and more user friendly.

- if you ask they nicely to set the initial capital to 1,000 usd instead of 100,000 - right after account creation- you will face it how expensive is to trade at they under 5000 usd.

Probably, when I will have 50,000 usd and I want to trade at news times and news spikes I will try again and beg they again, but until that probably it will expire one of my password or ID card ad I will have the same signature )

IMHO: under 10,000 just not worth to trade with they, when aren't news releases, but is only me. At news time with trading and + commission I will end up with 4-6 pip spread ( commission converted to spread) + 5-10 slippage.. is not for me to trade the spike , I can swim in other times and find my trade opportunities , with 1-1.5 pip spread and no commission.

Broker as bank it is tentative, but not with that price + bureaucracy.
I want to buy PATIENCE
If you want a safe bröker, then you need to accept the fact that they will be strict with paper work. It's as simple as that. Unless of course you prefer brökers that don't give a crap if you are a money laundering terrorist or not and just want you to deposit money with them as soon as possible. In that case there are many bucketshops that will process your application in one day. Good luck with that, personally I prefer serious people and serious regulation.

Quoting matheszabi
At news time with trading and + commission I will end up with 4-6 pip spread ( commission converted to spread) + 5-10 slippage..
4-6 pips in trading costs + 5-10 slippage? What pair do you trade?

On EURUSD I find the average cost is this:

0.5-1 pip average spread + (0.48 pips commission - 45% rebate) = 1.01 pips

You can control the slippage. But in my experience, the average slippage is half a pip. So the total average cost would be 1.01 pips + 0.5 pips slippage = 1.51 pips in average

Not bad.
On eur/usd, take a balance under 5000 and calculate the commission for your trades , and give it that fee to trade, as I did. I needed to pay like 4 -5 pips .

Lets see if it's correct my calculations:
At the demo account with 100k balance I made a trade with 250k units. Dukas took me 11.88 usd as commission.

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But I don't have 100k to invest atm, so in case if I will trad with they it will be more less. Around 1000 units at beginning.

for 250k if the comission it is 11.88
than for 1k should be x, where x = (11.88 x 1000) / 250,000 = 11.88 / 250 = 0.04752

As I can see below it is a trade to double check my calculation, for 1k units took me 0.04

WHEN I had 100k deposit. For this reposit the comission factor it is 18 : http://www.dukascopy.com/swiss/engli...ission-policy/

but when I have less than 5000 deposit, than this factor will be 48

Let's check how much would be the comision, if I would have 4999 balance:

0.04752 ...... 18
y .........48

y = 0.04752 * 48 / 18 = 0.12672. This would be the commision for each microlot if I would have less or equal than 4999 usd and trading eur/usd.

Now convert this number to pip.

1 pip for a microlot is 0.1 usd.

And this commission, only the commission it is 1.2 pip.
You have the spread wich is another pip or more
and you have the slippage too. Average 3-4 pip on not news time, at least what I saw. But if you can get under 1 pip, be happy with that!
I want to buy PATIENCE
Quoting Uilen
So the only thing that prevents me from opening an AC at them is my laziness and hatred to papers.
One of bucket shop in Eu, asked my ID cars scanned for proof of who I am, my bank account extras as bills or the address proof - with online banking I could do it instant, also I have scanner, and they asked to scan my Visa card for something financial reason, I forgot why. The live account was ready and filled in a few hours. Dukas ask to make copy and legalize it and...for why? to trade with they expensiever and see the second level prices? - I haven't enough capital to trade with 10-50 lots and with a few thousand I am not beginner to trade with 1:100 leverage... - at that bucked shop I have traded with 1:400 ) it was a fast lose, and my fault and lesson, and that "broker" even expensiever than Dukas ) - but it was my first broker, first account wipe.

My opinion still the same: if you don't have at least 10k to fill at this broker, than go away, because simply not worth. Money guarantee , safety it comes at 50k , not with a few thousands.
I want to buy PATIENCE
Wait a minute, at first you said the slippage is about 5-10 pips and now you're saying it's 4-5 pips? What changed? lol
Where are you getting these numbers from anyway?

My trade data shows the slippage on EURUSD (moderate trade sizes) is about 0.5 pips, and this was confirmed by another trader too (based on 100 trades). I have no idea where you're getting your numbers from.

Anyway, here's my take on it:

With a $4999 balance and assuming you use the 45% rebates program, here is what you should pay in total trade costs on average:

S = Average Spread = 0.75 pips
SLP = Average Slippage = 0.5 pips
C = Commission = 0.48 pips
R = Rebate = C*45% = 0.216 pips

S + SLP + (C-R) = 0.75 + 0.5 + (0.48-0.216) = 1.514 pips (and less if you have 5k or more in your account, OR if you have more than 50 lots in traded volume within the last 30 days)

Sometimes you'll pay more sometimes less (depending on spread and slippage), but that should be the average.

NOTE: This is for EURUSD, I don't know about other pairs as I don't trade them.
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