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  • #47,201
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:49pm Jan 13, 2012 1:49pm
Quoting Wulfgar
The forums are poppin today!!

Been at work...

Downgrade bonanza it seems... 2 levels on Italy!! To BBB+... aka Bunga Bunga Bailout+

All these downgrades make me certain that the US is gonna bailout Europe sommore

1.30 by end of Jan by massive use of USD swap lines and repatriation by any and all insolvent European banks?
i just got long at these levels.....
  • #47,202
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:51pm Jan 13, 2012 1:51pm
Quoting gatorinla
with french downgrade, aren't these out?
Well 4 to 5% in the 10yrs look like a healthy level now (lol) for issuing common bonds. They only excuse the French, Austrians and etc give to refuse talking about eurobonds before where the bond differentials ...now ironically all of them are starting to look the same (except for Greece which is defaulted, only waiting for the gravedigger to finish his job).

sisse
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  • #47,203
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:51pm Jan 13, 2012 1:51pm
Be careful mate at the hour. Could drop

Quoting fxjawn
i am now out and starting to build a long.... weekend or not i want to be ready for the rally
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  • #47,204
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:53pm Jan 13, 2012 1:53pm
Quoting pipper
Be careful mate at the hour. Could drop
yea i know just a small one tight stop...gonna see if i can build a position.... if i get stopped out no biggie im risking only 5% of my profit from today
  • #47,205
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:54pm Jan 13, 2012 1:54pm
Quoting Wulfgar
The forums are poppin today!!

Been at work...

Downgrade bonanza it seems... 2 levels on Italy!! To BBB+... aka Bunga Bunga Bailout+

All these downgrades make me certain that the US is gonna bailout Europe sommore

1.30 by end of Jan by massive use of USD swap lines and repatriation by any and all insolvent European banks?

like that

still target is the same and we have conformation ,we did not see areal bounce out of the move


unless we see intervention from the ECB eur is doomed too much knifes around and all ready to kill
  • #47,206
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:55pm Jan 13, 2012 1:55pm
Quoting sisse
Well 4 to 5% in the 10yrs look like a healthy level now (lol) for issuing common bonds. They only excuse the French, Austrians and etc give to refuse talking about eurobonds before where the bond differentials ...now ironically all of them are starting to look the same (except for Greece which is defaulted, only waiting for the gravedigger to finish his job).

sisse
i thought there's a rule using e bonds.. and France downgrade means they cant sell ebonds
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #47,207
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:58pm Jan 13, 2012 1:58pm
Quoting gatorinla
i thought theres a rule using e bonds.. and France downgrade means they cant sell ebonds
gonna have a major impact on efsf, not sure of the details...
  • #47,208
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:58pm Jan 13, 2012 1:58pm
cut long. Not risking next 15min bar
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  • #47,209
  • Jan 13, 2012 1:59pm Jan 13, 2012 1:59pm
Quoting fxjawn
yea i know just a small one tight stop...gonna see if i can build a position.... if i get stopped out no biggie im risking only 5% of my profit from today
more balls then me,,
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #47,210
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:01pm Jan 13, 2012 2:01pm
Quoting gatorinla
i thought there's a rule using e bonds.. and France downgrade means they cant sell ebonds
Well it will screw the rating of the EFSF and etc as France AAA was a big chunk of it but if they create new eurobonds there is no restriction on the technical or legal side but a lot of implications on sovereignty and political issues which is another topic...

sisse
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  • #47,211
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:01pm Jan 13, 2012 2:01pm
s&p announcement due 'round about now...
  • #47,212
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:02pm Jan 13, 2012 2:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
more balls then me,,
its all i have ... i suck at everything else in life
  • #47,213
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:03pm Jan 13, 2012 2:03pm
Quoting sisse
Well it will screw the rating of the EFSF and etc as France AAA was a big chunk of it but if they create new eurobonds there is no restriction on the technical or legal side but a lot of implications on sovereignty and political issues which is another topic...

sisse
pretty sure the eurocrats in brussels won't get foiled by a credit dg...
  • #47,214
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:05pm Jan 13, 2012 2:05pm
seems to be a lot of chatter on the wires about further us qe measures following fomc comments..
  • #47,215
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:06pm Jan 13, 2012 2:06pm
Quoting fxjawn
its all i have ... i suck at everything else in life
the h candles said it was ok to L.. just more sl then i like,
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #47,216
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:06pm Jan 13, 2012 2:06pm
have risked a short
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  • #47,217
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:09pm Jan 13, 2012 2:09pm
Quoting sisse
Well it will screw the rating of the EFSF and etc as France AAA was a big chunk of it but if they create new eurobonds there is no restriction on the technical or legal side but a lot of implications on sovereignty and political issues which is another topic...

sisse
well broke countries with higher debt then income. just got a higher cost of dying.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #47,218
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:11pm Jan 13, 2012 2:11pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
pretty sure the eurocrats in brussels won't get foiled by a credit dg...
To be honest IMO the eurocrats already lost floor in this case and they are entering in hope mode. They had their chance and they blew it with this crisis.

Now is all in hand of national governments to do or die not only for the euro but for the EU which I think at the end will be good for the future of all European countries (EU or EZ or not) in terms of a new playing field. I hope they cut all the unnecessary crap from Brussels in the process too.

We'll see

sisse
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  • #47,219
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:11pm Jan 13, 2012 2:11pm
Interesting day, with anticipated news. The little rebounce helped to increase momentum as downward pressure remained high regardless of the downgrades. More euro misery is to follow about France's impact on the EFSF, and more on Greece and Italy.
I frequently get stopped out these days on lower tfs, today though I was only watching.
  • #47,220
  • Jan 13, 2012 2:12pm Jan 13, 2012 2:12pm
Quoting gatorinla
the h candles said it was ok to L.. just more sl then i like,
nice.... lets see if it amounts to anythng +8 so far
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