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  • #121
  • Jan 4, 2012 5:08pm Jan 4, 2012 5:08pm
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Mer,

So am I right in saying that if 3 one lot trades were put on for the regular trades (option 3) then the counter trend trade lotsizes would be 12 / 6 / 3 lots??

Just like this to be clarified


It could be. You can make the lot sizes whatever you want as long as you keep the 4-2-1 ratio. You could use 8-4-2 or 7-3.5-1.75, etc..., as long as the ratio is correct. All I want you to make sure to do is to try and increase the lots to proportionate offset as much of the loss from the Regular trade as possible within the limits of your trading account size.
  • #122
  • Jan 4, 2012 9:21pm Jan 4, 2012 9:21pm
Hi,
Happy New Year to one and all!
Just did a visual back testing of this method over the holidays and I must say this method has good potential with suitable money management and position sizing strategy.
Looking at the charts now, I see inside bar form by yesterday's narrow day range for AU,GU and NU pairs. The probablility for breakouts is there today.

Wish you all a profitable trading day.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #123
  • Jan 4, 2012 11:14pm Jan 4, 2012 11:14pm
to mero! where can i find your forex factory calender headlines ? if you have it.
  • #124
  • Jan 4, 2012 11:29pm Jan 4, 2012 11:29pm
to mero.
I'm a little confused, there are no active trades on Gbp/Usd at the moment.

this is i said before ... now i look some wave for GBP/USD go to 1.5773 ..just forgive me if my forcast wrong n...
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  • #125
  • Jan 4, 2012 11:31pm Jan 4, 2012 11:31pm
to mero. now i stiil look 4 you sytem...you are genius man than you
  • #126
  • Jan 5, 2012 12:14am Jan 5, 2012 12:14am
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to mero! where can i find your forex factory calender headlines ? if you have it.
Here you go, attached to this post.

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to mero.
I'm a little confused, there are no active trades on Gbp/Usd at the moment.

this is i said before ... now i look some wave for GBP/USD go to 1.5773 ..just forgive me if my forcast wrong n
Not according to the Synergy CRS rules (see pic).

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to mero. now i stiil look 4 you sytem...you are genius man than you
Thanks for the compliment. Genius sounds too egotistical, I'll stick with competent .
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  • #127
  • Jan 5, 2012 12:42am Jan 5, 2012 12:42am
thank u.... teacher hahah
  • #128
  • Jan 5, 2012 1:54am Jan 5, 2012 1:54am
Good morning,

When I wake up I closed manually the RT from yesterday since I have placed new pending RT orders, at +11 pips.

Day1: +21 pips

New pending orders waiting.....

Still thinking about lot sizes for CT. Since we increase lot size after a loss, I feel safer with an initial lot size for CT of 0.2/0.1..

Let's see.
  • #129
  • Jan 5, 2012 2:21am Jan 5, 2012 2:21am
No pressure, use whatever you feel comfortable regarding the CT lot sizes. Nothing in my threads is ever set in stone even though I try to encourage people to try and follow the strategy as close as they possibly can.
  • #130
  • Jan 5, 2012 2:42am Jan 5, 2012 2:42am
Quoting mer071898
No pressure, use whatever you feel comfortable regarding the CT lot sizes. Nothing in my threads is ever set in stone even though I try to encourage people to try and follow the strategy as close as they possibly can.
Thank you Mer,

According to RR for every type of trade, in order to recover each loss, this is the multiplier needed for every next trade:

-RT: X 2 (just 123.6 target)
-SC: X 2
-CT1: X 1.6
-CT2: X 1.3
-CT3: X 1

I have only taken into account todayīs level, so maybe Iīm wrong.
  • #131
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:02am Jan 5, 2012 3:02am
Quoting Caillou
Thank you Mer,

According to RR for every type of trade, in order to recover each loss, this is the multiplier needed for every next trade:

-RT: X 2 (just 123.6 target)
-SC: X 2
-CT1: X 1.6
-CT2: X 1.3
-CT3: X 1

I have only taken into account todayīs level, so maybe Iīm wrong.

I think we have a problem with multiplie, for example i think only CT 1 on lot 4 (0.4, 0.04) see:

If you have account 1000$ you will trade 0.04 lot this is 0.40$ with average loss as yesterday 40 pips we will loose 16$ it is nothing but in next order we will use lot 0.08 loss will be 32$, in next trade lot is 0.16 (1.6$) loss is 64$ we will be 11% in DD, but in next multiplie lot is 0.32, loss is 128$, in next lot is 0.64 loss is 256$ after 5 trades we will be 50% in DD and 6th opening lot be 1.28 and loss will be 512$ + 496$ (from frist 5)= -1008$, this means there is no account only afther 6th opening??????
This is really dangerous. Do you have any idea for better MM?
  • #132
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:13am Jan 5, 2012 3:13am
Quoting newnew
I think we have a problem with multiplie, for example i think only CT 1 on lot 4 (0.4, 0.04) see:

If you have account 1000$ you will trade 0.04 lot this is 0.40$ with average loss as yesterday 40 pips we will loose 16$ it is nothing but in next order we will use lot 0.08 loss will be 32$, in next trade lot is 0.16 (1.6$) loss is 64$ we will be 11% in DD, but in next multiplie lot is 0.32, loss is 128$, in next lot is 0.64 loss is 256$ after 5 trades we will be 50% in DD and 6th opening lot be 1.28 and loss will be 512$ + 496$ (from frist 5)= -1008$,...
If your first CT 1 is 0.04, your next lot will be 0.04 X 1.6: 0.064, next 0.1024, next 0.1638 and so on......but yes, you will always have a possibility of blowing your account after x losses in a row, if you donīt fell comfortable with that, donīt increase your lot size. As Mer said, everyone has to trade in a comfortable way. My list above is the multiplier needed for revover a loss.
In fact, I will start with CT1 of 0.3 and CT2 of 0.15, but Mer will answer your question much better than me......

Anyway, today really good.

Day 2

Scalp Trade: +12 pips * 0.1: +12 pips
Regular Trade: +41 pips * 0.1: +41 pips
Total: +53 pips

Waiting for a reentry
  • #133
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:30am Jan 5, 2012 3:30am
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According to RR for every type of trade, in order to recover each loss, this is the multiplier needed for every next trade:
Remember, the game is to make money, you don't want to set up the lot sizes just to recover the losses, you want to make a profit on the trades as well, just my opinion. Keep in mind that your losses on the Regular trades are 3.5-4 times the profit you'll make on the CT trades,

Let's use tonight Eur/Usd as an example, let's say the our Scalp and Regular trades are triggered and price immediately reverses as stops us out, but all 3 CT trades hit there targets. Using your numbers above in post #132 we get this:

RT- 2 lots x -88 pips=-$1760
Scalp- 2 lots x -24 pips= -$480
CT 1- 1.6 lots x +25 pips= +$400
CT 2- 1.3 lots x +20 pips= +$260
CT 3- 1.0 lots x +20 pips= +$200

Total= -$1380

Using close to the same total lots to yours but keeping my 4-2-1 ratio we get this:

RT- 1 lots x -88 pips=-$880
Scalp- 1 lots x -24 pips= -$240
CT 1- 3.0 lots x +25 pips= +$750
CT 2- 1.5 lots x +20 pips= +$300
CT 3- .75 lots x +20 pips= +$150

Total= +$80

You had 7.9 lots at risk in the market (2+2+1.6+1.3+1), and I had 7.25 lots at risk (1+1+3+1.5+.75). Why did I make a profit and you did not, even though I had .65 less lots total than you? Because I kept the 4-2-1 ratio intact and was more proportionate with my CT lot sizes in relation to my Regular and Scalp trades. Do you see the relationship between the trades now? Now you can trade this however you like because it is not my money, it's yours. I'm just trying to point you in the most logical direction.
  • #134
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:33am Jan 5, 2012 3:33am
Quoting Caillou
If your first CT 1 is 0.04, your next lot will be 0.04 X 1.6: 0.064, next 0.1024, next 0.1638 and so on......but yes, you will always have a possibility of blowing your account after x losses in a row, if you donīt fell comfortable with that, donīt increase your lot size. As Mer said, everyone has to trade in a comfortable way. My list above is the multiplier needed for revover a loss.
In fact, I will start with CT1 of 0.3 and CT2 of 0.15, but Mer will answer your question much better than me......

Anyway, today really good.

Day 2...

I know, but if I donīt increase lot size I can earn nothing. Last night I made manually back testing EURUSD for 5 months in 2011, there is nothing if we do not increase lot size. I checked several ways, the best results was as you started, only one trade on RT lot 0.1 and CT 0.4, 0.2, 0.1 lot.
  • #135
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:36am Jan 5, 2012 3:36am
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I think we have a problem with multiplie, for example i think only CT 1 on lot 4 (0.4, 0.04) see:

First off newnew, on the Ct trades we are not using a true martingale that doubles up on every loss. We only add whatever the original size of the trade was. Using .04 lots for example, the sequence after a loss on CT 1 would go .04, .08, .12, .16, .20, and so on, not .04, .08, .16, .32, .64. You probably should go back to the beginning of the thread and re-read it from post #1.
  • #136
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:38am Jan 5, 2012 3:38am
Quoting mer071898
Remember, the game is to make money, you don't want to set up the lot sizes just to recover the losses, you want to make a profit on the trades as well, just my opinion. Keep in mind that your losses on the Regular trades are 3.5-4 times the profit you'll make on the CT trades,

Let's use tonight Eur/Usd as an example, let's say the our Scalp and Regular trades are triggered and price immediately reverses as stops us out, but all 3 CT trades hit there targets. Using your numbers above in post #132 we get this:

RT- 2 lots x -88...
Sorry Mer but you didnīt understand my previous post. My relation was the lot size multiplier for recover a loss, not the initial lot size ("this is the multiplier needed for every next trade").
In fact Iīm using RT 0.1, SC 0.1, CT1 0.3 and CT2 0.15............
  • #137
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:43am Jan 5, 2012 3:43am
Quoting Caillou
Sorry Mer but you didnīt understand my previous post. My relation was the lot size multiplier for recover a loss, not the initial lot size ("this is the multiplier needed for every next trade").
In fact Iīm using RT 0.1, SC 0.1, CT1 0.3 and CT2 0.15............

I was talking about multiplier needed for every type of trade, not about lot size relation between each type of trade.......
  • #138
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:55am Jan 5, 2012 3:55am
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Sorry Mer but you didnīt understand my previous post. My relation was the lot size multiplier for recover a loss, not the initial lot size ("this is the multiplier needed for every next trade").
In fact Iīm using RT 0.1, SC 0.1, CT1 0.3 and CT2 0.15............
No, I'm sorry. I thought that was what you were actually using. I would still stick with .4, .2, and .1, but again that's me.

I'm also updating everyone that my trades have all closed out. I'm setting my price alerts so I can hit the sack, just in case we get a re-entry opportunity later on and I don't miss it.
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  • #139
  • Jan 5, 2012 3:57am Jan 5, 2012 3:57am
Quoting newnew

This is really dangerous. Do you have any idea for better MM?
Yes, if you are under capitalized, don't take the trade.

There are enough opportunity just with Regular Trade - go with the overall trend - look to Monthly, Weekly, Daily, 4 Hour, what do you SEE?

then find a pair going that direction for instance EUR-USD - EUR-JPY - GBP-USD right NOW

... then risk only 2% of account, if the trade is wrong, that's it, don't worry about Counter Trades, they are just about being right, they take a lot of understanding and management, and your account not big enough.

when you use 2% of account, the position size will be dependent on the distance to the stop, check these 3 trades. Note, I didn't take AUS-USD as it was in uptrend, so missing that entry.

I don't care for right or wrong, only make $$$$

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  • #140
  • Jan 5, 2012 4:01am Jan 5, 2012 4:01am
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Yes, if you are under capitalized, don't take the trade.

Exactly, as I've said numerous times, make sure you have the proper amount of funds in your account to trade safely. Even though I only have a $1K in my account, I'm at 1:200 leverage which basically gives me $2K to work with.
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