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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:29am Dec 9, 2011 8:29am
  •  squidge42
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 45 Posts
Quoting anyremote
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The rule is 4 pips above BODY. So, it got triggered barely by the next candle after it.

I agree this is a risky one. In fact, it got triggered when it hit the upper trendline. I hesitated but decided to enter finally as it matched all the rules of the TS.
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ah right...thanks. Sorry for questions etc but I only came across this strategy yesterday...really interested in it
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:36am Dec 9, 2011 8:36am
  •  fratelli
  • Joined Feb 2007 | Status: Member | 518 Posts
I am now back in Denmark, and my internet is up running again.

I see a lot fighting goin on here.

Please stop it and lets consentrade to make this a better system for all off us.

I will be working this weekend to see what I can do.

I also hope Micky can help me get more bars in histori so I can go further back and see what system did.

Peter
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:40am Dec 9, 2011 8:40am
  •  anyremote
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 63 Posts
Today a happy day. Gain +60 pips in total.

I love you, Peter.

Hope that this weekend you and your team can figure out a more robust rules that can have positive result in long term. Hope you can seriously consider my suggestion from previous post. Good luck.
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:44am Dec 9, 2011 8:44am
  •  anyremote
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 63 Posts
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ah right...thanks. Sorry for questions etc but I only came across this strategy yesterday...really interested in it
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Good luck in reading the whole thread. I spend more than 8-10 hours on that. Still, I got questions that senior members here told me that it had already been answered previously.
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:47am Dec 9, 2011 8:47am
  •  squidge42
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 45 Posts
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Guys, can anyone help me with my question at post #3230 ?
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...82#post5208382

thanks
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hi only joined yesterday but this is what have picked up so far

"You said that we should enter long when super candles is green, just to confirm super candle is signal candle right ? - No they are all super - it's just the indie that colours them ( a bit like heikenashi) - it just denotes if it's bearish or bullish, irrespective of what a standard candle would look like
When you said put po 4pips above body(long) and 3 pips below body(short), does that mean above/below candle close point? YES
So let's say signal candle for long closed at 1.3000, i supposed to put PO at 1.3404 with SL at 1.3379 and TP at 1.3424, is that correct ? YES

Does that pips including spread ? - depends on your spread but partly yes (1 pip at least) as it's 4 for a long as opposed t 3 for a short

BB Macd's settings that i got from the template is 12-14-10, is that the right settings or 12-26-10 ? 12-26-10 as stated in manual, template wrong (thats what I have seen in the thread anyway)

My fratelli MAIN v1.3 really doesn't look right, is this the correct setings (MaxBars 300, NumberOfDays 90) ? thats how mine is, so you'll only get candles for the last couple of days

Oanda mt4 time is gmt-5, so i should adjust the worktime to 02:10 to 11:30, right? YES
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:53am Dec 9, 2011 8:53am
  •  fratelli
  • Joined Feb 2007 | Status: Member | 518 Posts
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Today a happy day. Gain +60 pips in total.

I love you, Peter.

Hope that this weekend you and your team can figure out a more robust rules that can have positive result in long term. Hope you can seriously consider my suggestion from previous post. Good luck.
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could you tell me the post number.

Peter
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 9:02am Dec 9, 2011 9:02am
  •  anyremote
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 63 Posts
Quoting fratelli
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could you tell me the post number.

Peter
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Post no. 3222. But to make your job easier, I copy down the main point I wish you consider at below:-

Quoting anyremote
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Instead of fix 20 pips, why don't use some variable to define TP and SL size. The reason is because market always change. Sometimes it tight range, sometimes wide range. I was thinking maybe define our TP and SL size depends on % of previous day's low/high/close/open/pivot point or something like that. Or maybe a size of between certain level of Fibonacci to another level of Fibonacci of that particular day's low/high/close/open/pivot point.

The reason for this is that it will make the system more flexible to adapt to the condition of the market.
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  • Dec 9, 2011 9:09am Dec 9, 2011 9:09am
  •  rmtrader
  • | Joined Dec 2011 | Status: Member | 10 Posts
Quoting squidge42
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hi only joined yesterday but this is what have picked up so far

"You said that we should enter long when super candles is green, just to confirm super candle is signal candle right ? - No they are all super - it's just the indie that colours them ( a bit like heikenashi) - it just denotes if it's bearish or bullish, irrespective of what a standard candle would look like
When you said put po 4pips above body(long) and 3 pips below body(short), does that mean above/below candle close point? YES
[i]So...
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thank you!
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 10:44am Dec 9, 2011 10:44am
  •  drjack1939
  • | Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Member | 37 Posts
Guys,

The constant tweeking of this trading system to squeeze out every possible pip has corrupted a simple system that was made available by Peter and crew to help traders to realize a few unstressful 20 pips a day. So here we are today with a revised system based on the greedy mentaility of a few (tweekers) traders. My read of other system threads shows that this often results in the untimely death of many well intentioned trading systems. I sure many viewers of this thread don't want this to happen to Fratelli.

Time for a reset! In my opinion, it would be nice to have a conservative Fratelli trading system similiar to the previous version and an aggressive Fratelli trading system for greed based tweekers.

Some previous postings have observed that the system may not be profitable due to changing market conditions. So, back and front test and see what market conditions were in place when gains were realized. It would seem to me that based on these results there may be a need for a system advisory that would advise traders to use Fratelli only when certain market conditions exist.

My 2 cents worth.

DrJack

In the final analysis, Peter and his crew need a break so they can get on with there own trading. Let the system(s) run for 6 months and then evaluate the need for further changes.
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 11:07am Dec 9, 2011 11:07am
  •  x58
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: Mr. | 410 Posts
That was my today's trading. Have nice weekend fellow trades and see you in Monday.
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  • Dec 9, 2011 11:40am Dec 9, 2011 11:40am
  •  anyremote
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 63 Posts
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Guys,

The constant tweeking of this trading system to squeeze out every possible pip has corrupted a simple system that was made available by Peter and crew to help traders to realize a few unstressful 20 pips a day. So here we are today with a revised system based on the greedy mentaility of a few (tweekers) traders. My read of other system threads shows that this often results in the untimely death of many well intentioned trading systems. I sure many viewers of this thread don't want this to happen to Fratelli.

Time for a reset! In...
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Peter and his crew tweak the system due to backtest on this system more than 3 months ago does not produce positive result. It's not because of wanting to produce any extra pips. Who need more pips if the system is reliably profitable? If we need more return, we can always increase our lot size.

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That was my today's trading. Have nice weekend fellow trades and see you in Monday.
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Congrate's my friend. But I see you only take 15 pips instead of 20 pips.

Anyway, well done.
 
 
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  • Edited at 11:55am Dec 9, 2011 11:54am | Edited at 11:55am
  •  kook
  • | Joined Jul 2010 | Status: Member | 65 Posts
Quoting fratelli
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I also hope Micky can help me get more bars in histori so I can go further back and see what system did.

Peter
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Welcome back Peter,

Please check your mail. Have sent something that might help you with this issue.

But (always one ), keep an open mind
J
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 1:28pm Dec 9, 2011 1:28pm
  •  fratelli
  • Joined Feb 2007 | Status: Member | 518 Posts
Quoting kook
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Welcome back Peter,

Please check your mail. Have sent something that might help you with this issue.

But (always one ), keep an open mind
J
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thanks for your mail

I will look into it.

And if there is something I dont understand, I will contact you.

Peter
 
 
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  • Dec 9, 2011 8:46pm Dec 9, 2011 8:46pm
  •  plig
  • | Joined Jul 2010 | Status: Member | 70 Posts
I can't see any yellow or blue line for entry. I enter the trade manually.... I use the files on #1 post.... where am I wrong?
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2011 8:13am Dec 10, 2011 8:13am
  •  kotlt
  • | Joined Jul 2010 | Status: Member | 718 Posts
Hello,

Just visited your thread, can you please tell me what is BE ?

From your doc

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EURUSD: SL is 25 pips. TP is 20 pips. When we see 10 pip profits we move SL to -10 pips. When we see 15 pips in profit we move SL to BE+1 pip
Keep Simple...!
35TP 25 SL Return Today: na
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2011 10:16am Dec 10, 2011 10:16am
  •  mgs1f
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 238 Posts
Quoting kotlt
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Hello,

Just visited your thread, can you please tell me what is BE ?

From your doc
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Breakeven so you loose 0 if the worst happens.
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2011 11:45am Dec 10, 2011 11:45am
  •  plig
  • | Joined Jul 2010 | Status: Member | 70 Posts
[quote=fratelli;5193556]
Quoting rivtrader
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There is no buy sell lines in the new indy.

We have not coded it yet according to new rules.
I want ask if you want it, then we will look into it.

Peter
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Now it's clear. Thanks
 
 
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  • Dec 11, 2011 11:51pm Dec 11, 2011 11:51pm
  •  crobbins
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Member | 43 Posts
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That was my today's trading. Have nice weekend fellow trades and see you in Monday.
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Wow....15 pips TP and a 250 pip SL
When did the rules change?
And yes, I have went back and read the thread carefully from page one already!! Please tell us that you are not making your own rules after you have chastised so many on this thread for not reading the thread thoroughly or following the rules of Mr Fratelli exactly. Perhaps you should go back and read what you yourself wrote on page 186 (post #2785)

"I am sure, we need fallow the rules excacly. But if anyone think do differently, then just do, BUT NOT Publicity it.That will be your own Bussiness"
 
 
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  • Dec 12, 2011 12:15am Dec 12, 2011 12:15am
  •  x58
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: Mr. | 410 Posts
Quoting crobbins
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Wow....15 pips TP and a 250 pip SL
When did the rules change?
And yes, I have went back and read the thread carefully from page one already!! Please tell us that you are not making your own rules after you have chastised so many on this thread for not reading the thread thoroughly or following the rules of Mr Fratelli exactly. Perhaps you should go back and read what you yourself wrote on page 186 (post #2785)

"I am sure, we need fallow the rules excacly. But if anyone think do differently, then just do, [color=red]BUT...
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Hi Chris,

Nice to hiear about you. I hope you do good.
Yes, you are absolutly right. I just had last week record pips and just want everybody can see, system works.
Thank you for the truth. My bad, sorry!
 
 
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  • Dec 12, 2011 1:45am Dec 12, 2011 1:45am
  •  kavindu
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 15 Posts
hello peter
any updates on the upgrading progress of the system?

thank you
 
 
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