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  • #3,201
  • Dec 7, 2011 10:40pm Dec 7, 2011 10:40pm
Quoting rivtrader
The Euro had a small range today, less than 103 pips. Been like that for 3 days. The AudUsd has had five days of small ranges. Not much trend going on. So if the signals are activating around the extreme of those ranges, some of them will be losers.
I you consider that as small range then take the effort to look to the euro or aussy or eurjpy between april 2007 and july 2007.

You will see DAILY ranges as low as 40 pips. (just place an ATR indicator on a daily chart and place it on 5 so you would have the avg range over 5 days and go over that period ).
Then realize what would have happened with this system. It would have triggered 10 trades per day and all loosing (you can maybe say that 2007 is a long time ago but for all the same this can happen again tomorrow or next week or next month).

Friendly regards... FXiGoR
  • #3,202
  • Dec 8, 2011 12:46am Dec 8, 2011 12:46am
Ok guys.......
FF is full of threads with systems...... but it's all a complaint because the market does this or does that......
The backtests tells this or that......
Trend system are eaten by range market, range systems don't work in long run, breakout systems don't work because of fake breakouts...and mechanical systems don't work....but price action only don't work... and pivots hold, or pivots are broken, and support and resistance, and supply and demand, and, and, and...........................

So, what are we doing here..... why do we try to trade forex.......?
Everybody is able to say: This doesn't work & that doesn't work......

BUT NOBODY SAYS WHAT CAN WORK.......!
  • #3,203
  • Dec 8, 2011 12:51am Dec 8, 2011 12:51am
Hi
I do have the same problem! so ppl who are complaining could explain us wat really works ? so frustrating

Quoting Aztrader2
Ok guys.......
FF is full of threads with systems...... but it's all a complaint because the market does this or does that......
The backtests tells this or that......
Trend system are eaten by range market, range systems don't work in long run, breakout systems don't work because of fake breakouts...and mechanical systems don't work....but price action only don't work... and pivots hold, or pivots are broken, and support and resistance, and supply and demand, and, and, and...........................

So, what are we doing here..... why...
  • #3,204
  • Dec 8, 2011 12:52am Dec 8, 2011 12:52am
The only thing I know that does work is the brain

Sonics 5 step PDF says it all
  • #3,205
  • Edited 1:06am Dec 8, 2011 12:53am | Edited 1:06am
Easy to say........

But.... who says just that....what is he doing here in FF, instead of making millions trading from...... Miami or Seychelles under a palm tree.....?
  • #3,206
  • Dec 8, 2011 1:09am Dec 8, 2011 1:09am
Quoting Aztrader2
Easy to say........

But.... who says just that....what is he doing here in FF, instead of making millions trading from...... Miami or Seychelles under a palm tree.....?
But I think Sonic is successfull , He is just here cos he enjoys its so he says that in a pdf
  • #3,207
  • Dec 8, 2011 1:55am Dec 8, 2011 1:55am
Quoting FXiGoR
Hi Aztrader2,


PS. If this trading game would be so easy, just trowing 4 indicators together, then you need to realize that there have been millions of people looking to charts and combining indicators and they would all be rich ! Sorry to spoil your party now or to tell you that Santa Claus does not exist.
Congratulations, this is the best post ever written.
  • #3,208
  • Edited 2:16am Dec 8, 2011 2:15am | Edited 2:16am
Quoting newnew
Congratulations, this is the best post ever written.
I don't know why everyone is throwing their advice. If you have better idea or indis or system, start the thread.

Don't criticize others work. May be some of you are better traders, good luck to you.

Unless you want to share your knowledge to improve the system, don't post.

We want to keep this thread pure.

Again, if you have better system or idea, start your own. The only thing free in the world is Advice.
  • #3,209
  • Dec 8, 2011 2:18am Dec 8, 2011 2:18am
I agree with fxmate:

Instead of saying these amenities.... have all of you something constructive to say?
Is anyone of you....Masters.... profitable? Instead of spitting judgments... why don't you demonstrate us what is the right way to trade......
Or are you all....Masters..... making millions an simply enjoing to be here in FF to blame our....poor, unskilled, newbies....?
  • #3,210
  • Dec 8, 2011 2:28am Dec 8, 2011 2:28am
Hello
Yes i also agree! When people begin to criticize it becomes very harder and frustrating to follow something! Its better if they could give us some advices to follow suggestion for improvements in the system
thank you

Quoting Aztrader2
I agree with fxmate:

Instead of saying these amenities.... have all of you something constructive to say?
Is anyone of you....Masters.... profitable? Instead of spitting judgments... why don't you demonstrate us what is the right way to trade......
Or are you all....Masters..... making millions an simply enjoing to be here in FF to blame our....poor, unskilled, newbies....?
  • #3,211
  • Dec 8, 2011 2:43am Dec 8, 2011 2:43am
Greece- hopelessly devoted to you
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  • #3,212
  • Dec 8, 2011 2:53am Dec 8, 2011 2:53am
Thanks God.... we have our Guru......
  • #3,213
  • Dec 8, 2011 3:26am Dec 8, 2011 3:26am
I did not say anything about this strategy or any, I told for this, it is true:

If this trading game would be so easy, just trowing 4 indicators together, then you need to realize that there have been millions of people looking to charts and combining indicators and they would all be rich ! Sorry to spoil your party now or to tell you that Santa Claus does not exist.

This is for every strategy not for this here.We need more things to set up for trading not only indicators. I am not profitable, but i do not know who is here i think no one in last 12 months, because i am looking how to trade, i think MM is 95% trading, strategy is 5%.
About this strategy i think it is very good, only better MM like RR 1:2, risk 0.5% and reward 1% and there is no fear.




Quoting fxmate
I don't know why everyone is throwing their advice. If you have better idea or indis or system, start the thread.

Don't criticize others work. May be some of you are better traders, good luck to you.

Unless you want to share your knowledge to improve the system, don't post.

We want to keep this thread pure.

Again, if you have better system or idea, start your own. The only thing free in the world is Advice.
  • #3,214
  • Dec 8, 2011 4:09am Dec 8, 2011 4:09am
Quoting newnew
I did not say anything about this strategy or any, I told for this, it is true:

If this trading game would be so easy, just trowing 4 indicators together, then you need to realize that there have been millions of people looking to charts and combining indicators and they would all be rich ! Sorry to spoil your party now or to tell you that Santa Claus does not exist.

This is for every strategy not for this here.We need more things to set up for trading not only indicators. I am not profitable, but i do not know who is here i think...
Your advice, please?
  • #3,215
  • Dec 8, 2011 4:19am Dec 8, 2011 4:19am
Quoting x58
Your advice, please?
Talked to Peter and over the weekend we will test everything again and check all the trades.
Also we will try to add ore remove elements to see if the strategy has more chances if we look at it in a different way. Please be patient untill sunday evening ore monday morning, and you will receive advices .

Also today be aware of the big News before you decide to take a trade .
Cheers and many pips to you.
  • #3,216
  • Dec 8, 2011 4:35am Dec 8, 2011 4:35am
Quoting x58
Your advice, please?
Need to test, but smaller SL and bigger TP.
  • #3,217
  • Dec 8, 2011 4:36am Dec 8, 2011 4:36am
Quoting MickyMouse
Talked to Peter and over the weekend we will test everything again and check all the trades.
Also we will try to add ore remove elements to see if the strategy has more chances if we look at it in a different way. Please be patient untill sunday evening ore monday morning, and you will receive advices .

Also today be aware of the big News before you decide to take a trade .
Cheers and many pips to you.


Very kind of you. We much appreciate your work.
  • #3,218
  • Dec 8, 2011 4:46am Dec 8, 2011 4:46am
Quoting newnew
Need to test, but smaller SL and bigger TP.
What will be right SL and TP. Thanks
  • #3,219
  • Dec 8, 2011 5:08am Dec 8, 2011 5:08am
Quoting x58
What will be right SL and TP. Thanks
As I told, we need to test it but I think at least 1:2 RR.
  • #3,220
  • Dec 8, 2011 5:12am Dec 8, 2011 5:12am
Thank you for updating us on the progress. was lost since you guys were inactive for a period


Quoting MickyMouse
Talked to Peter and over the weekend we will test everything again and check all the trades.
Also we will try to add ore remove elements to see if the strategy has more chances if we look at it in a different way. Please be patient untill sunday evening ore monday morning, and you will receive advices .

Also today be aware of the big News before you decide to take a trade .
Cheers and many pips to you.
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