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  • #3,081
  • Dec 5, 2011 9:55am Dec 5, 2011 9:55am
I had the same issue - bars, arrows and lines would only paint if max bars is set to 100 or less.

That was using a 1min base chart and a 10x period multiplier to make the offline 10 min chart.

If I change to a 5 min chart and 2x period multiplier to make the 10min chart, all bars etc paint fine up to 400 max bars (I haven't tried any more than this).

So my question is,... is there any downside to using a 5min / 2x basis to form the 10min chart rathyer than a 1min/10x?

Thanks to you all for the system, and the time you spend helping others.

Pipsky
  • #3,082
  • Dec 5, 2011 9:56am Dec 5, 2011 9:56am
me and another 2 team of traders did an ea for this system .. Actually 3 ea`s in total ...

We figured out how to run backtests on 10 min tf and we backtested the system.

I feel is my duty , as a trader, and member of this community to warn everybody out!!!!!

1 . What we came to see is that the last 2 - 3 months the system has been profitable .
2. Before of that , the system has been a constant looser .
3. The system tested on dukascopy tick data only on the eur/usd , blew the account !!!!!!!!

At the time beeing we are experiencing some strange market conditions.. the system seems to like them and make profits. There is no guarantee that the system will continue to work this way . Actually i am 100% positive that if markets calm down, the system will loose big time ...

Please be aware of this when you make a live trade on a live trading account with REAL money inside!!!!
I strongly suggest to everybody until things will be clearer , to only DEMO TRADE the system !!!!


As a trader , when you click buy...selll it becomes you`re business ... still i felt the need to tell everybody where we are now .

Thank you and many green pips
  • #3,083
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:03am Dec 5, 2011 10:03am
Quoting rivtrader
Ok, Now I redid the process. Loaded the indis and Fratelli v1.3c, after setting max bars to 100, then saving the template, then reloading the template again on the 10 minute chart I have the supercandles etc, for the last 100 bars.
which means you do not have enaugh history
try downloading at least 2 weeks of history
  • #3,084
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:05am Dec 5, 2011 10:05am
Quoting MickyMouse
which means you do not have enaugh history
try downloading at least 2 weeks of history
Will do, thanks.
  • #3,085
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:05am Dec 5, 2011 10:05am
Quoting MickyMouse
me and another 2 team of traders did an ea for this system .. Actually 3 ea`s in total ...

We figured out how to run backtests on 10 min tf and we backtested the system.

I feel is my duty , as a trader, and member of this community to warn everybody out!!!!!

1 . What we came to see is that the last 2 - 3 months the system has been profitable .
2. Before of that , the system has been a constant looser .
3. The system tested on dukascopy tick data only on the eur/usd , blew the account !!!!!!!!

At the time beeing we are experiencing...
hi mickey,
can you upload backtest?
  • #3,086
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:09am Dec 5, 2011 10:09am
Quoting MickyMouse
me and another 2 team of traders did an ea for this system .. Actually 3 ea`s in total ...

We figured out how to run backtests on 10 min tf and we backtested the system.

I feel is my duty , as a trader, and member of this community to warn everybody out!!!!!

1 . What we came to see is that the last 2 - 3 months the system has been profitable .
2. Before of that , the system has been a constant looser .
3. The system tested on dukascopy tick data only on the eur/usd , blew the account !!!!!!!!

At the time beeing we are experiencing...
Hey...... what a bad new....!

I wanna ask you how far back you went in this testing? Doesn't Gleneagle backtested the system for about 1 year and the results were POSITIVE?
  • #3,087
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:09am Dec 5, 2011 10:09am
i will not upload the test here , it is not my thread and i don`t want to cause confusion.
If u want it, pm me you`e email adress and i will send it to you ...
ore you`re skype id
  • #3,088
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:12am Dec 5, 2011 10:12am
Quoting Aztrader2
Hey...... what a bad new....!

I wanna ask you how far back you went in this testing? Doesn't Glen eagle backtested the system for about 1 year and the results were POSITIVE?
i do not know for sure wat backtests others did , i only have my backtests , and other 2 ea`s backtests ... we worked everibody on it`s own to diversify the way the logis are coded. 1 ea is actually made on tradestation , and 2 on mt4 ..
they all loose, sorry . still last 2 -3 months it has been a good period for the eur/usd and eur/jpy as well
  • #3,089
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:30am Dec 5, 2011 10:30am
Short EURJPY 104.72
  • #3,090
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:39am Dec 5, 2011 10:39am
Dear Peter prompt why have ceased to trade GBP on system. And thanks you for that that do here giving the chance to us to get profit.
  • #3,091
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:41am Dec 5, 2011 10:41am
Quoting MickyMouse
me and another 2 team of traders did an ea for this system .. Actually 3 ea`s in total ...

We figured out how to run backtests on 10 min tf and we backtested the system.

I feel is my duty , as a trader, and member of this community to warn everybody out!!!!!

1 . What we came to see is that the last 2 - 3 months the system has been profitable .
2. Before of that , the system has been a constant looser .
3. The system tested on dukascopy tick data only on the eur/usd , blew the account !!!!!!!!

At the time beeing we are experiencing...
Thanks a lot for the info. Sad news but at least we are aware and perhaps mentally prepare for it.

In addition, I hope you can discuss your backtest result with Peter. Peter & Gleneagles seems to have positive result. Perhaps maybe there are some "grey area unclear criteria" that Peter's understanding and your understanding are different. Chances are, a lot of us might fell into this "grey area unclear criteria" trap later on. Hopefully your result of discussion with Peter will give clearer picture to all of us.

Again, sad to hear but thank you for making us mentally prepare for this.

I hope you can make us all a bigger favor by discussing your result with Peter after he come back to FF from his awful hometown weather.
  • #3,092
  • Dec 5, 2011 10:47am Dec 5, 2011 10:47am
Quoting Cross
Short EURJPY 104.72

According to the rules you're far out the trading time (Read the document in ver 1.3 zip file)......

Anyway...maybe you'll make money!
  • #3,093
  • Dec 5, 2011 12:38pm Dec 5, 2011 12:38pm
Today made 45 pips by that TS
  • #3,094
  • Dec 5, 2011 12:54pm Dec 5, 2011 12:54pm
Quoting MickyMouse
me and another 2 team of traders did an ea for this system .. Actually 3 ea`s in total ...

We figured out how to run backtests on 10 min tf and we backtested the system.

I feel is my duty , as a trader, and member of this community to warn everybody out!!!!!

1 . What we came to see is that the last 2 - 3 months the system has been profitable .
2. Before of that , the system has been a constant looser .
3. The system tested on dukascopy tick data only on the eur/usd , blew the account !!!!!!!!

At the time beeing we are experiencing some strange...
Please can you show us your Backtest statement?
  • #3,095
  • Dec 5, 2011 1:49pm Dec 5, 2011 1:49pm
I have set up charts with the lastest version posted, which show the macd as the BB dotted one. In Peters rules doc,he mentions the macd histo bars, but this indie is not there.anyone else noticed which we are using?
Many thanks
Julie
  • #3,096
  • Dec 5, 2011 1:49pm Dec 5, 2011 1:49pm
Quoting Cross
Short EURJPY 104.72
TP 104.52 > +20pips
  • #3,097
  • Dec 5, 2011 1:50pm Dec 5, 2011 1:50pm
Quoting Cross
TP 104.52 > +20pips
Yup it was a winner!
  • #3,098
  • Dec 5, 2011 1:52pm Dec 5, 2011 1:52pm
Quoting Hawki trader
I have set up charts with the lastest version posted, which show the macd as the BB dotted one. In Peters rules doc,he mentions the macd histo bars, but this indie is not there.anyone else noticed which we are using?
Many thanks
Julie
Use the BB Dotted line one, that is what is in all of the latest templates!

-S
  • #3,099
  • Dec 5, 2011 1:54pm Dec 5, 2011 1:54pm
Quoting Aztrader2
According to the rules you're far out the trading time (Read the document in ver 1.3 zip file)......
Yes I am.

Quoting Aztrader2
Anyway...maybe you'll make money!
And, yes I did.
  • #3,100
  • Dec 5, 2011 8:34pm Dec 5, 2011 8:34pm
Man...this is one crazy thread you guys have (had) going on here.

In fact, it is so typical of the roller coaster rides many of these Trading System threads go on...it should be made into a sticky for future generations to study.

Good luck...I hope it turns out to be very successful.
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