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  • #901
  • Nov 22, 2011 1:42am Nov 22, 2011 1:42am
Quoting traderforex
Hi Alan, there is an EA that is with all gambling techniques, the name of this EA is VivaLasVegas and you can get it on mql4.com, I can tell that the best strategy is the Martingale strategy, doesn't loos, but scarys a lot.
Thanks for that info. I was one of the early users of SWB and, in fact, had it recoded to take profit in pips and not money. Also, to make it more stable.

It's the best trading system, ever, until you get that unexpected, Central Bank intervention or bad financial news. I traded it, as recommended by the developer, using a 25 pip range. I put a trade limit on of 7 levels. A pair had to go 200 pips, without a 25 pip retrace, in order to lose. This happened to me twice within 8 trading days!! It is scary and you can lose.
  • #902
  • Nov 22, 2011 4:05am Nov 22, 2011 4:05am
Hello fellow trades and griddies,

I am experimenting with SWB a lot, and I would have one idea to reduce dd a lot.

The entry check for a trade is only performed once, a the first trade. After that it stupidly opens the recovery trades at the grid levels.

What about modding it (which i sadly can't) to the following :

If a grid level is reached, do the same BB / stoch / RSI check for this trade and only THEN open the next trade. It may go down a lot more into DD, but after a turnpoint it is way more likely to go into favoured direction again. This would reduce DD a lot, and match exactly my trading style...

Blessing EA trades exactly that way, but has a very bad trend checking routine (MA only) which I also cannot modify...

Regards, George
"We are all just prisoners ... of our own device ..." (Hotel California)
  • #903
  • Nov 22, 2011 9:31am Nov 22, 2011 9:31am
don't worry, ur betting strategy is greatly appreciated.

the betting strategy is much more reliable than the martingale.

just pathetic losers don't understand the martingale's destined failure and yelled at you for "distraction"......

Quoting Beshakey
Sure, Agreed. I get enthusiastic about silly things sometimes.

Sorry guys.

Shake
  • #904
  • Nov 23, 2011 3:53am Nov 23, 2011 3:53am
Quoting Alan5616
Thanks for that info. I was one of the early users of SWB and, in fact, had it recoded to take profit in pips and not money. Also, to make it more stable.

It's the best trading system, ever, until you get that unexpected, Central Bank intervention or bad financial news. I traded it, as recommended by the developer, using a 25 pip range. I put a trade limit on of 7 levels. A pair had to go 200 pips, without a 25 pip retrace, in order to lose. This happened to me twice within 8 trading days!! It is scary and you can lose.
Hi Alan, this is the worst part of the grid, you can't leave it working on those days that you know it will happen important news.
About the VivaLasVegas ( I know is off topic) doesn't have any kind of entry rules, simply enter in one position with the same TP and SL and if it wins it will open again (no indicators to make entries) if it loose it will open in double next. I always open posistions doesn't matter the trend or signals, just open!
  • #905
  • Nov 23, 2011 3:09pm Nov 23, 2011 3:09pm
Demo crashed here are the final results, prior to crashing it did have an 85% growth from $2000 to $3700 that was closed before catching the death spiral sell trade that saw it open 6 positions up to 1.20 lots.

http://pastehtml.com/view/bf08i8nns.html



Testing other variations that did not crash this week and so far has a 20% in crease this week. I started it this week $2000 it is now at $2429. This demos is following DittoDaliss recomendations from the thread

http://pastehtml.com/view/bf09jv93c.html
  • #906
  • Nov 24, 2011 1:52am Nov 24, 2011 1:52am
Quoting mcdxxx
Demo crashed here are the final results, prior to crashing it did have an 85% growth from $2000 to $3700 that was closed before catching the death spiral sell trade that saw it open 6 positions up to 1.20 lots.

http://pastehtml.com/view/bf08i8nns.html



Testing other variations that did not crash this week and so far has a 20% in crease this week. I started it this week $2000 it is now at $2429. This demos is following DittoDaliss recomendations from the thread

http://pastehtml.com/view/bf09jv93c.html
I think that an initial lot of 0.20 to an account of $2000 is too high. As I understand DittoDaliss posts he uses nini lots, so for an account of $2000 the ininitial lot is 0.20 mini lot, or 0.02 lot.
  • #907
  • Edited Nov 25, 2011 3:12am Nov 24, 2011 11:05pm | Edited Nov 25, 2011 3:12am
Quoting mcdxxx
as requested:

Trade_Managment=----- Trade Managment -----
stealth_mode=1
tp_in_money1=3.00000000
tp_in_money2=1.50000000
start_lot=0.15000000
range1=5.00000000
range2=10.00000000
range3=20.00000000
range4=30.00000000
range5=40.00000000
range6=80.00000000
max_levels=10
use_sl_and_tp=0
sl=30.00000000
tp=1000.00000000
NSM_range=25.00000000
Martingale=----- Use Martingale -----
lot_multiplier=1
multiplier=1.50000000
Lots_Increment=----- Use Lots Increments instead of Martingale -----
increament=0.10000000
Indicators=----- Indicators Settings-----
use_bb=0
bb_period=20
bb_deviation=2
bb_shift=0
use_stoch=0
k=5
d=3
slowing=3
price_field=0
stoch_shift=0
lo_level=30
up_level=70
use_rsi=1
rsi_period=14
rsi_shift=0
lower=40
upper=60
Other_Settings=-----...
i set start_lot=0.01 so i have change also ?
tp_in_money1=3.00000000
tp_in_money2=1.50000000

I have test this ea using tf1m it's was great result I think if got time filter or news should better scalp.Below is my demo account.

http://www.mt4i.com/users/raaj46
  • #908
  • Nov 25, 2011 3:41pm Nov 25, 2011 3:41pm
This SWB demo made it through the week, started early on the 21st of November

36% gain for the week, 1 minute TF

http://pastehtml.com/view/bf896bgdk.html

Gross Profit:871.71
Gross Loss:148.00T
Total Net Profit:723.71
Profit Factor:5.89
Expected Payoff:20.10
Absolute Drawdown:0.00
Maximal Drawdown:52.00 (2.18%)
Relative Drawdown:2.18% (52.00)

Total Trades:36
Short Positions (won %):16 (100.00%)
Long Positions (won %):20 (85.00%)
  • #909
  • Nov 25, 2011 10:17pm Nov 25, 2011 10:17pm
MCD - if you dont mind, please post your set file. Thx
  • #910
  • Edited 2:48am Nov 28, 2011 2:19am | Edited 2:48am
need some advice if I set starting lot 0.01 so tp in money1 should 0.20 and tp in money2 0.10 ?
  • #911
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:55pm Nov 30, 2011 1:55pm
Hi guys,
I've been testing different configuration because I was watching other systems and so on, and because of what I see with bmfx system, which is a manual trading, and this gave me an idea for swb grid and goes different from the settings that I know from the first one, 4.1. Ibeen tested on that one only, I love the first one even whit a big DD and some demos ripped off I think this has a potential and I didn't quit looking for a good settings.
So you should use the swb grid 4.1 on TF H1 and the billinger bands should be, 12, 3, 0, the stochastic at 4, 2, 3 and the rsi you can leave it at it is. Range 30, levels 4, tp in money 45, if some one can code it with money management it will be great, and instead 45 usd can be 45 pips always. I've tested with 3000 and was great performance. Can you guys try it also and tell me what you think???

Cheers,
  • #912
  • Dec 1, 2011 11:26am Dec 1, 2011 11:26am
Quoting traderforex
Hi guys,

So you should use the swb grid 4.1 on TF H1 and the billinger bands should be, 12, 3, 0, the stochastic at 4, 2, 3 and the rsi you can leave it at it is. Range 30, levels 4, tp in money 45, if some one can code it with money management it will be great, and instead 45 usd can be 45 pips always. I've tested with 3000 and was great performance. Can you guys try it also and tell me what you think???

Cheers,
What is the point of using both RSI and Stochastic? They are both momentum indicators and, therefore, one of them can be made redundant. There is nothing to be gained by adopting a multi collinearity approach with any system.
  • #913
  • Dec 2, 2011 3:54am Dec 2, 2011 3:54am
Quoting Alan5616
What is the point of using both RSI and Stochastic? They are both momentum indicators and, therefore, one of them can be made redundant. There is nothing to be gained by adopting a multi collinearity approach with any system.
Sincerly I don't like RSI, and I have the same though but because I'm not a coder I just use the swb grid for my strategy. If I could take RSI I would .
But nevertheless it is good even with RSI.
  • #914
  • Dec 2, 2011 5:16pm Dec 2, 2011 5:16pm
Added $1145 for the week, for a total of $1868 since opening the demo. 93% gain in 2 weeks. Difficult market that killed the other SWB demos i was running, except this one.

Started: $2000
Ended: $3868

http://pastehtml.com/view/bg0bii154.html

Gross Profit: $2 218.97
Gross Loss: $350.10
Total Net Profit:$1 868.87
Profit Factor:6.34
Expected Payoff:20.54
Absolute Drawdown:0.00
Maximal Drawdown:52.10 (1.67%)
Relative Drawdown:2.18% (52.00)

Total Trades:91
Short Positions (won %):42 (97.62%)
Long Positions (won %):49 (87.76%)
Profit Trades (% of total):84 (92.31%)
Loss trades (% of total):7 (7.69%)
  • #915
  • Dec 2, 2011 10:32pm Dec 2, 2011 10:32pm
Quoting charvo
don't worry, ur betting strategy is greatly appreciated.

the betting strategy is much more reliable than the martingale.

just pathetic losers don't understand the martingale's destined failure and yelled at you for "distraction"......

Don't sweat it guys, I agree with Charvo, that I had was not wrong in presenting, and I also agree with the other guy that I might have pushed the boundary a little bit away from the SWB.

By the way, the Viva Las Vegas EA does NOT include the one I pitched. It includes Oscar' GRIND. THIS is a different one.

I agree that the martingale has great great risks, and you are playing with fire. It is possible to play with fire. I know a of guy that has traded with a martingale EA for years, and it has worked. He doesnt' run it 24 hours a day. He turns it on and off under certain signals and situations.

Thanks, Shake
  • #916
  • Dec 3, 2011 2:41am Dec 3, 2011 2:41am
Quoting mcdxxx
Added $1145 for the week, for a total of $1868 since opening the demo. 93% gain in 2 weeks. Difficult market that killed the other SWB demos i was running, except this one.

Started: $2000
Ended: $3868

http://pastehtml.com/view/bg0bii154.html

Gross Profit: $2 218.97
Gross Loss: $350.10
Total Net Profit: $1 868.87
Profit Factor: 6.34
Expected Payoff: 20.54
Absolute Drawdown: 0.00
Maximal Drawdown: 52.10 (1.67%)
Relative Drawdown: 2.18% (52.00)

Total Trades: 91
Short Positions (won...

Could you post your set file for this demo?

Thanks
  • #917
  • Dec 3, 2011 4:48am Dec 3, 2011 4:48am
Quoting Beshakey
Don't sweat it guys, I agree with Charvo, that I had was not wrong in presenting, and I also agree with the other guy that I might have pushed the boundary a little bit away from the SWB.

By the way, the Viva Las Vegas EA does NOT include the one I pitched. It includes Oscar' GRIND. THIS is a different one.

I agree that the martingale has great great risks, and you are playing with fire. It is possible to play with fire. I know a of guy that has traded with a martingale EA for years, and it has worked. He doesnt' run it 24 hours a day. He turns...
I can tell that martingale can be you scape for your possible loss. I have trading for a long my own strategy and it includes martingale and the some patterns that I recognise, I am using in manual, I am using with my customers and so far never lost at the end. Yesterday was a great day for me, I made 5% in one day trade, I always make an average of 1% per day. So I must say for me martingale is a friend. You can use different strategies with martingale, some more agressive others less, and the money management is very important here actually it is 75% of the strategy for me.
  • #918
  • Dec 3, 2011 7:50pm Dec 3, 2011 7:50pm
Quoting traderforex
I can tell that martingale can be you scape for your possible loss. I have trading for a long my own strategy and it includes martingale and the some patterns that I recognise, I am using in manual, I am using with my customers and so far never lost at the end. Yesterday was a great day for me, I made 5% in one day trade, I always make an average of 1% per day. So I must say for me martingale is a friend. You can use different strategies with martingale, some more agressive others less, and the money management is very important here actually it...
Awesome!!
  • #919
  • Dec 3, 2011 11:18pm Dec 3, 2011 11:18pm
I check your EA from first post and read many posts of this forum. I tested this EA (firs post) in real account in about 72 days and it work very well!
so began to test last version with hedge setting. but this EA (SWB Martingale grid 4.1 reverse 5 e) have many settings.
can anybody help me and describe</SPAN> the settings or list for me the posts that have any information about this?
then I can create an pdf file as help or manual of this grate EA!
thanks
  • #920
  • Dec 8, 2011 12:32pm Dec 8, 2011 12:32pm
hey guys,

i'm using the adaptive range version of swb 4.1 here are my account size is about 110K (demo) my settings are the same as mcdxxx

sometimes it is only getting 1 pip, is that right? i think vimel46 wrote that tp in money 1, and 2 were set to 3 and 1.5 respectively but starting lot size is .01 does this need to be multiplied respectively according to lot size?
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