Pattern's Chemo-Electric Trading Journal

rethought emotions --















causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)

parallel vs. serial:
pattern
angle
TL
copy,rate


angle-copy-pattern-speed-TL


In a discretionary trading session, emotions play on gut interpretation of a chart. I use an event-norm approach to this gut-emotion cycle --

1. A person has an emotional makeup they usually carry around --
   ....1.one standard quadrant in the market emotion cycle
   ....2.key, anchoring events that oppose the one quadrant so that one differs in response from the usual mec
   ....3.diagonal opposites that saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile.
   Anybody has the x axis as the norm for positive (high) and negative (low), and the y axis, same for 'have' (left) and 'not have' (right). The diagonals are the use lines.
   Example: Capitulation captures self within object, just as anxiety with hope and ecstacy with depression each do.
   Emotions are inner representation about outer on the y axis and outer representation about inner on the x axis, so that anyone can balance a more-slight negative (especially given an irregular one standard quadrant) with another's x with y axis through initiating a diagonal.
   ....4.compensating emotion pathways on the mec when new activities arise, so that one's standard quadrant is reinforced
   ....5.level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
2. study Test: ontogeny(4 origin and the development of an organism) vs. philogeny(3 evolutionary relatedness among groups of organisms ), 1 causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time)) vs. adaptation ( 5 a trait with a current functional role in the life history of an organism that is maintained and evolved by means of natural selection.) Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
   pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
   speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
   area: Useful -- THINK in Gann Fans (momentum) and midline grids (range), to read ahead and capture area. in particular: Series: Sharp (@a 'perfect') or exaggerated shapes to anchor from / copy from/to, subtly-changing pattern copies, and rate.angles of lines/rays. TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction). rate, angle, copy/rate : TL/angle
3. a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.
   If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time period
   I made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of trades
   I made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

anger -- "a feeling of great annoyance or antagonism as the result of some real or supposed " 6
how much is enough?
as much or as little as I can get -- as long as I get
I mean, what the h am I here for?






http://www.livestrong.com/article/52...tive-emotions/







































pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).
copy,angle-- self-defined.

-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)


EMOTIONS
-- direction of energy for gut-interpretation path.

EMOTION -- POSITIVE VS. NEGATIVE
.[/color][/url]three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.
risk:reward emotions --
greed -- inappropriate expectation that one takes more for oneself and it's work out fine in the longer term
capitulation -- surrender to avoid risk
anxiety -- push away, (worry: ) to avoid anticipated potential threats
hope -- opens us...to... the big picture, [so] creative, have belief in a better future
stimulus-response emotions --
anger --
fear --
ecstacy --
depression --


EMOTION -- PERSONAL VERSION OF MARKET EMOTION CYCLE[list][*]A person has an emotional makeup they usually carry around --
....1.one standard quadrant in the market emotion cycle
....2.key, anchoring events that oppose the one quadrant so that one differs in response from the usual mec
....3.diagonal opposites that saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile.
Anybody has the x axis as the norm for positive (high) and negative (low), and the y axis, same for 'have' (left) and 'not have' (right). The diagonals are the use lines.
Example: Capitulation captures self within object, just as anxiety with hope and ecstacy with depression each do.
Emotions are inner representation about outer on the y axis and outer representation about inner on the x axis, so that anyone can balance a more-slight negative (especially given an irregular one standard quadrant) with another's x with y axis through initiating a diagonal.
....4.compensating emotion pathways on the mec when new activities arise, so that one's standard quadrant is reinforced
....5.level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile




Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)


"peace. it does not mean to be in a place where there is no noise, trouble or hard work. it means to be in the midst of those things and still be calm in your heart." -- http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...56#post5128256

source: wikipedia.com --
HUMAINE (slightly rearranged):
thoughts...
negative
positive
negative and positive,
agitation,
reactive
negative...
and forceful
and not in control
positive...
and lively
:caring
,quiet

Parrott --
love joy surprise anger sadness fear

-- HUMAINE's is easier to graph, Parrott's much better at inclusion of all emotions.
HUMAINE's seems to isolate "positive: caring", because thoughts and 'negative and positive' each cancel either side, as do 'lively' with ',quiet' and 'forceful' with 'not in control'.
to care -- 1 "Feeling and exhibiting concern and empathy for others:"; worry, generalized anxiety 2; "Feel concern or interest; attach importance to something" 3


greed -- 1 excessive desire to pursue and achieve more of our own goals inappropriate expectation that one takes more for oneself and it's work out fine in the longer term
fear -- 2 "Fear is a distressing negative sensation induced by a perceived threat. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of danger. In short, fear is the ability to recognize danger leading to an urge to confront it or flee from it (also known as the fight-or-flight response) but in extreme cases of fear (terror) a freeze or paralysis response is possible. "
greed,


(ecstacy/)care, (depression/)hope -- study
(anger/)greed, fear (/capitulation) -- trade

parallel vs. serial:
pattern
angle
TL
copy,rate

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review of wanderings
The vector and short line each emotion on my mec versions are short-sided, as the quotes above state fear can be in a freeze position, which does not exist in the current vector and short line approach.
So, I'm thinking of emphasizing the multi-function emotion personality type, the risk-reward emphasis of each emotion, and the gut reaction as linked to emotion.
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anger for fear -- on the level toward profit instead of loss
capitulation for greed -- willing to let go if momentarily push self ahead of others' better reality
depression -- the nadir of trade entry

depression --
1 "de·pres·sion/diˈpreSHən/
Noun:
Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.
A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."

2 Depression (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity

It would seem to be that high emotional activity would need depression to THEN return to trading competancy, rather than depression being an ideal trading state.



gratitude receive -- interest capture
serenity be -- hope support
pride achieve -- inspi/persperation change


Parrott --
love joy surprise anger sadness fear


greed -- it
fear -- there

FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)

source: wikipedia.com --
HUMAINE (slightly rearranged):
thoughts...negative positive
negative and positive, agitation, reactive
negative...and forceful and not in control
positive...and lively :caring ,quiet






















So, rethought and got this:



a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)

depression --
1 "de·pres·sion/diˈpreSHən/
Noun:
Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.
A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."

2 Depression (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity


causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)

anger -- "a feeling of great annoyance or antagonism as the result of some real or supposed " 6
how much is enough?
as much or as little as I can get -- as long as I get
I mean, what the h am I here for?




EMOTION -- PERSONAL VERSION OF MARKET EMOTION CYCLE
A person has an emotional makeup they usually carry around --
....1.one standard quadrant in the market emotion cycle
or
....2.key, anchoring events that oppose the one quadrant so that one differs in response from the usual mec

....3.diagonal opposites that saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile.
Anybody has the x axis as the norm for positive (high) and negative (low), and the y axis, same for 'have' (left) and 'not have' (right). The diagonals are the use lines.
Example: Capitulation captures self within object, just as anxiety with hope and ecstacy with depression each do.
Emotions are inner representation about outer on the y axis and outer representation about inner on the x axis, so that anyone can balance a more-slight negative (especially given an irregular one standard quadrant) with another's x with y axis through initiating a diagonal.
....4.compensating emotion pathways on the mec when new activities arise, so that one's standard quadrant is reinforced
....5.level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
When LOC is xy-leveled with, it's all about object(/concept) -- Not emotion with its depression-ecstacy range for gut intuition; instead, what objects are put in environs to react with, and thus flow-attention.Flow is as noted above; attention is, for this instance, the variant of PA chart study I do with the chart objects noted far below:


Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)

depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.


a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)


Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.

If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

_________________________________________________________


causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))

-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)

attention
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

Yeah, I didn't like that (implied answer to post on another thread).
So maybe I should learn from it.

Here's MY latest trades on demo simulator:


Margin calls and MUCH faster profit (this being a measly 1/2% an hour, usual up to 10% or more) usual.
Of course, the former is the problem. ; )
That, and watching every trade. And this account had a low W:L, unusual for me. The SL's were high, too.

If I margin call -- Likely -- I'll stop this nonsense again.
It's just like...
Well..

MARGIN CALL. Trade 17.
I let go of psych, didn't scan thru post#1 to get where I'm at. Just let everything go.


Okay. Now you know my trading problem.

Any trader worth their PA salt could've stopped and reversed that one, easy.
I just didn't, well, care.. And that's on post#1 now. Hmmm....
The way I keep uploading the image incorrectly, 'mistake' is also important, so I was especially gut/axally active at the time.

Hey! I studied a trade. It's been a while.

post#1:
















aargh
`anger -- "a feeling of great annoyance or antagonism as the result of some real or supposed " 6
how much is enough?
as much or as little as I can get -- as long as I get
I mean, what the h am I here for?

it's just me
EMOTION -- PERSONAL VERSION OF MARKET EMOTION CYCLE
A person has an emotional makeup they usually carry around --
....1.one standard quadrant in the market emotion cycle

....2.key, anchoring events that oppose the one quadrant so that one differs in response from the usual mec

....3.diagonal opposites that saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile.
Anybody has the x axis as the norm for positive (high) and negative (low), and the y axis, same for 'have' (left) and 'not have' (right). The diagonals are the use lines.
Example: Capitulation captures self within object, just as anxiety with hope and ecstacy with depression each do.
Emotions are inner representation about outer on the y axis and outer representation about inner on the x axis, so that anyone can balance a more-slight negative (especially given an irregular one standard quadrant) with another's x with y axis through initiating a diagonal.
source:wikipedia.com --HUMAINE(rearranged):thoughts...negative positive negative and positive,agitation,reactive negative...and forceful,and not in control positive...and lively,:caring,,quiet
....4.compensating emotion pathways on the mec when new activities arise, so that one's standard quadrant is reinforced
....5.level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
When LOC is xy-leveled with, it's all about object(/concept) -- Not emotion with its depression-ecstacy range for gut intuition; instead, what objects are put in environs to react with, and thus flow-attention.Flow is as noted above; attention is, for this instance, the variant of PA chart study I do with the chart objects noted far below:


I'm not really into it...

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)
depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

... or too into it

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)


Just do it....

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.

If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

_________________________________________________________


...Do WHAT?!

causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))

-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

same-as
-- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road





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"I'm always thinking about losing money as opposed to making money. Don't focus on making money, focus on protecting what you have" - Paul Tudor Jones
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Here's a demo simulator account that has a W:L more like I'm used to. Note also the higher %/hr; it's still very low, tho -- 1 1/3%, which is at least above water.
No profits are 10% or above, which is odd.
An extreme dependence on watching every trade, since only one or two trades were allowed to go to TP or SL. First lack of control in the moment, now overcontrol.





The end of this account was three trades later. I didn't margin call, but I did begin to lose. I lost trade 17 and was in the process of losing trade 18, when I got too nervous -- too high a baseline volatility level, if you will -- and turned off the platform and the computer. And, well, turned it on again. Not caring contributed to the last three steps. Part of the issue is my usual weakness of control around others, that is about my own affairs not on something shared.
So I improved by one trade, trade 17. Actually, no, I lost that trade, if only a 3% loss, 5% being too much of a loss, since that's a standard profit too.

Margin-called next account.

post#1 revised to include more intense trading (same pictures as last version):






aargh
`anger -- "a feeling of great annoyance or antagonism as the result of some real or supposed " 6
how much is enough?
as much or as little as I can get -- as long as I get
I mean, what the h am I here for?

it's just me
EMOTION -- PERSONAL VERSION OF MARKET EMOTION CYCLE
A person has an emotional makeup they usually carry around --
....1.one standard quadrant in the market emotion cycle

....2.key, anchoring events that oppose the one quadrant so that one differs in response from the usual mec

....3.diagonal opposites that saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile.
Anybody has the x axis as the norm for positive (high) and negative (low), and the y axis, same for 'have' (left) and 'not have' (right). The diagonals are the use lines.
Example: Capitulation captures self within object, just as anxiety with hope and ecstacy with depression each do.
Emotions are inner representation about outer on the y axis and outer representation about inner on the x axis, so that anyone can balance a more-slight negative (especially given an irregular one standard quadrant) with another's x with y axis through initiating a diagonal.
source:wikipedia.com --HUMAINE(rearranged):thoughts...negative positive negative and positive,agitation,reactive negative...and forceful,and not in control positive...and lively,:caring,,quiet
....4.compensating emotion pathways on the mec when new activities arise, so that one's standard quadrant is reinforced .....
super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan.
Gambling obsession takes over.
....5.level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
When LOC is xy-leveled with, it's all about object(/concept) -- Not emotion with its depression-ecstacy range for gut intuition; instead, what objects are put in environs to react with, and thus flow-attention.Flow is as noted above; attention is, for this instance, the variant of PA chart study I do with the chart objects noted far below:


I'm not really into it...

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)
depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

... or too into it

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)


Just do it....

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.

If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

_________________________________________________________


...Do WHAT?!

causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))

-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)
in-trade drawdown, using trendlines to set TP,SL --
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge about the chart area and decreases in-trade drawdown / risk because that TL's all the price-time line has to go to. It's more of a balancing act, then, what with all the extra stuff to figure if things go wrong during the trade if the trade's watched.
Two trendlines just, at first glance, as good and in opposite directions of one's potential trade, can make for a decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown from attached TP/SL.
Multiple trendlines, and one has to read early patterns / candlework some time before or after the trade entry. SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.
chart perspective -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).



same-as
-- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road












copy of the first post here:
"Hi everyone, I will tell you about a trading style that I use with great success. It is trading manually using the minute chart as the battleground while using the 5 minute time-frame to give you the intraday picture.

The Setup:

1 TF chart:

Heiken Ashi candles
EMA period 5 Shift 2 Applied:HLC/3
EMA period 5 Shift 0 Applied:Close
Cycle Lines
5 TF chart:

Heiken Ashi candles
SMA period 50 Shift 0 Levels: +15 and -15 pips from 50 SMA

What I do is look for the heartbeat on the minute chart during the time I will be trading. There is a cycle of peaks or troughs that occur on the 1TF that you can plot using the Cycle Lines tool which once you identified will give you the heartbeat. Using the Heiken Ashi candles will give you a good visual cue what part of the cycle you are on. Price action against the EMA's will show the strength of the move as well as exit strategies.

Using the 5 minute chart will show you whether your ranging or trending. I look at price action to be "outside" the 15 pip lines to show me a trending action. Very often when price action breaks out of this 15 pip line it will continue so by using a minute chart you can place your entries and exits quite accurately.

Practicing this style of trading takes time as you must get to know the currency pair intimately. After looking at price action day after day on the minute chart you get a good feel where price action is heading. You will even start to understand without lines where supply and demand levels are.

Now there is a very critical component called R/R... You should look to get your stops to be as close as you can without getting stopped out on supply/demand price action within a individual candle. In my case I will average out at 6 pips stop vs 18 pips limit so my risk vs reward averages out to 1 vs 3. My average win rate is averaging around 75% and my time in the market is around 3 minutes.

One of the neat benefits of this strategy is your potential drawdown is very low, as well as your exposure to risk on the battleground. Time in this market as well as very tight stops allow you to leverage yourself with much less risk then other strategies. Even at high leverages your exposure to risk should be less then .25% per trade so your ability to survive drawdowns will be excellent as no human or Algo has a perfect day every day.

Now comes the human side to this trading style. You must accept losses and do not become shy to re-enter the market. You must fight for each pip and each loss should make you want to fight harder for the next win. Also do not start doubling your entries to make up for the loss of the preceding trade. That can get you into larger drawdowns which is not necessary. Remember, your risk is 1 vs reward which is 3 so all you need to do is win 1 time to break even on 3 losses. Let the law of averages be your ally for your going to need her...

Another critical component is your trading platform and execution. Almost any demo platform from any broker will look like they will work with this strategy. That is FALSE. Demo platforms do not reflect the real world of trading as a broker will throw several obstacles in your trading decisions. That will start from spreads to slippage to outright thievery. Since we are talking about "Spot" forex and not futures we need to use a broker that will NOT be a counter-party to our trades. You need to find a company that allows you to have DMA into the interbank market. Now if you are a retail trader it becomes difficult but you can find brokers that do have DMA access and will accept retail traders. Look for established, regulated STP & ECN brokers that connect to Currenex or FXAll or to some other pool like Dukascopy. Spot forex is a market where transparency is very difficult to find. Futures FX market is transparent as it goes through a central exchange where the exchange itself is regulated to be transparent. In spot forex that is not possible so you must pick your broker carefully. A good broker will give you the best execution speed, broadest liquidity pool, lowest spread based on volatility, etc...

That was a long paragraph but I wanted to stress that this style of trading needs the best possible broker to make it work long term...

Different traders have different styles. Me I have several but I like this way of trading as it is trading in the "trenches" so to speak. It is brutal and involves looking at price action for many hours every day but at the end of the month you have the satisfaction of seeing your bank statement in a new high watermark...

TraderDesk

*To learn about Futures FX go to http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/fxfutures/index.html where CME is the exchange."





summary of this post (also in answer to noted thread):


"5 minute chart ... ranging or trending. I look at price action to be "outside" the 15 pip lines to show me a trending action."

"the 1TF[:]"
"cycle of peaks or troughs ... Heiken Ashi candles ...what part on"
Price action against the EMA's... will show the strength of..."
["Price action against the EMA's... will show,"]"as well[,]... exit strategies.

...stopped out on supply/demand price action within a individual candle.


...6 pips stop
vs 18 pips limit
...win rate is averaging around 75%
and my time in the market is around 3 minutes.
...Time in this market ...[and] very tight stops ...allow you to leverage ... less then .25% per trade


...You must accept losses and do not become shy to re-enter the market. You must fight for each pip and each loss should make you want to fight harder for the next win."








-----------------------------------

post#1, new:















I'm not really into it...

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)
depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

... or too into it

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)


Just do it....

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

...Do WHAT?!

-- causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important)
in-trade drawdown, using trendlines to set TP,SL --
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge about the chart area and decreases in-trade drawdown / risk because that TL's all the price-time line has to go to. It's more of a balancing act, then, what with all the extra stuff to figure if things go wrong during the trade if the trade's watched.
Two trendlines just, at first glance, as good and in opposite directions of one's potential trade, can make for a decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown from attached TP/SL.
Multiple trendlines, and one has to read early patterns / candlework some time before or after the trade entry. SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.
chart perspective -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed: dots ( random(candles), volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session; condensed, smaller-candles shape; single, big run; sharp shapes; very low volume, price range) fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's) of copies reversed,opposite,flipped )
TL utility: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

same-as -- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road


This'll take YEARS....

chemical: a version of the market emotion cycle (mec)
one quadrant -- Imagine 'hope' of picture's leftmost cycle instead attaching below 'anger' as a loop-type cycle.
The diagonals -- Also makes more sense in a loop-type cycle. diagonal opposites of anxiety-hope, greed-capitulation on the version shown of the market emotion cycle, which saturate the positive (or negative) with interaction with another and flip to the other diagonal as a negative (or positive). This is a special case to the individual's profile. -- are the use lines.
....key, anchoring events that select and even oppose, or shadow to reinforce, the one chosen quadrant / cycle position so that one differs in response from the usual mec

chemo-electric
.... (dopamine,etc.) to create inter-entity/object roles: When LOC is xy-leveled with, it's all about object(/concept) as that LOC, not emotion with its depression-ecstacy range for gut intuition.

electric
.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.
.....positive-negative emphasis on emotions:
source:wikipedia.com --HUMAINE(rearranged):thoughts...negative positive negative and positive,agitation,reactive negative...and forceful,and not in control positive...and lively,:caring;,quiet



think that if do boy know I you

post#1, retitled and some text moved around:










flow

depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

fear and greed

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)

mm

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

margin call

.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp: Attachment
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.

chart logic

"a person may later rationalize an intuition by developing a chain of logic to demonstrate more structurally why the intuition is valid." -- 1

-- causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important). Up vs. down (stocks); range vs. trend (pairs);volatility
in-trade drawdown, using trendlines to set TP,SL --
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge about the chart area and decreases in-trade drawdown / risk because that TL's all the price-time line has to go to. It's more of a balancing act, then, what with all the extra stuff to figure if things go wrong during the trade if the trade's watched.
Two trendlines just, at first glance, as good and in opposite directions of one's potential trade, can make for a decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown from attached TP/SL.
Multiple trendlines, and one has to read early patterns / candlework some time before or after the trade entry. SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.
chart perspective -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, reversed,opposite,flipped ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed:
random(candles),
volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session;
condensed, smaller-candles shape;
single, big run;
sharp shapes;
very low volume, price range)
fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's)
TL(s) and other drawing devices usually deliver stability (midlines) or intensity (momo) to speed in neatly divided areas that react to the TL(s). They can also extend along two short trends to an off-chart crossover spot to anchor a multi-TL device, and can be the only thing connecting one pure momo area with another one, a mixed area separating the two or three.
positioning: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

same-as -- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road

post#1, retitled and some text moved around, with one old list reincluded:










flow

depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

fear and greed

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)


mm

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

Even then, you'll only be aware through however you feel and think at the time, rather than how the market acts.

familiar/accepted scenario --

wake-up / emergent cycle
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emotional reaction to attention to, and compile, inner octopi
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

unfamiliar/resisted scenario --
Thus,
series of positions (chart study + trade with it) / rethink before one trade of several chart studies --
1. name position
2. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
3. release other thoughts
4. doubt other positions
5. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
6. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
7. stimulus introduction
8. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
9. rejector breaks down, copies in single, tiny and original way the position
10. reintroduction: up-to-speed match of position-named w/others

short version:
condition
(example: negative)
1. entity given name for positioning
2. doubt/threaten/reject
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
4. stimulus: pattern preset, introduction with real pattern, copy real pattern
5. breakdown and reintroduction

margin call

.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.

chart logic

"a person may later rationalize an intuition by developing a chain of logic to demonstrate more structurally why the intuition is valid." -- 1

-- causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important). Up vs. down (stocks); range vs. trend (pairs);volatility
in-trade drawdown, using trendlines to set TP,SL --
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge about the chart area and decreases in-trade drawdown / risk because that TL's all the price-time line has to go to. It's more of a balancing act, then, what with all the extra stuff to figure if things go wrong during the trade if the trade's watched.
Two trendlines just, at first glance, as good and in opposite directions of one's potential trade, can make for a decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown from attached TP/SL.
Multiple trendlines, and one has to read early patterns / candlework some time before or after the trade entry. SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.
chart perspective -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,angle-- adjectives: counterweight, reversed,opposite,flipped ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed:
random(candles),
volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session;
condensed, smaller-candles shape;
single, big run;
sharp shapes;
very low volume, price range)
fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's)
TL(s) and other drawing devices usually deliver stability (midlines) or intensity (momo) to speed in neatly divided areas that react to the TL(s). They can also extend along two short trends to an off-chart crossover spot to anchor a multi-TL device, and can be the only thing connecting one pure momo area with another one, a mixed area separating the two or three.
positioning: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

same-as -- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road



------------



post#1, another -- added another old list, this one on effect of different mm combos:














flow

depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

fear and greed

Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)

a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion. Thus, risk:reward,win:lose, etc.

threat, a definition (in say (earlier post had a picture about it)) -- Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened. Common emotion is fear.
VS. FEAR THERE
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
inconsistency, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
-- common emotion is greed
VS. GREED IT
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)

mm

Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong

You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.

Even then, you'll only be aware through however you feel and think at the time, rather than how the market acts.
a brief example
Say you're nervous from encounters with others during the day, and you have the rest of the day off from a job or chores. You have a boss, and felt a little pushed at work today; plus, other things not in your control are weighing on you at the moment.
This stuff will translate into how you approach using your well-practiced chart study to find a new trade.

familiar/accepted scenario --

wake-up / emergent cycle
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emotional reaction to attention to, and compile, inner octopi
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

unfamiliar/resisted scenario --
Thus,
series of positions (chart study + trade with it) / rethink before one trade of several chart studies --
1. name position
2. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
3. release other thoughts
4. doubt other positions
5. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
6. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
7. stimulus introduction
8. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
9. rejector breaks down, copies in single, tiny and original way the position
10. reintroduction: up-to-speed match of position-named w/others

short version:
condition
(example: negative)
1. entity given name for positioning
2. doubt/threaten/reject
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
4. stimulus: pattern preset, introduction with real pattern, copy real pattern
5. breakdown and reintroduction

margin call

.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.

KEY to P/L Methods List
-- each listed item has a complex symbol, with several of the simple symbols below that are organized to the game 'Paper, (Path,) Scissors, Rock'
(waffled-edge circle) (a pathway between different ideas in a space, either with a square-like frame of boundaries ('think') or with a particular, dot-like objective ('know'), that is from fleeting effect to habitual signal) cutter, or scissors
(a square) (a frame of boundaries that perpetuates only a certain goal to <> / -+ effect, as in a building or the American '60's slang term; ) paper -- the idea is, something that can cover a rock and scissors can cut
(a short series of dashes) (the third, optional dimension in a three-axes geometric chart, included to allow for volume, time (in a 2d chart, such as trading) and other) path
(a dot) (a datum, to enter into a model or formula; mayhap, a pivot) rock


P/L METHODS LIST



L ....."Cut your losses short."

(a series of dots, with the wavy-edged circle around them all, this waffled circle exactly covering a (rectangular) frame) Sell a little at a time.
- Disobeys margin-call rule, that is, you can keep going and never really know when to stop.
+ Lose a little, gain a lot.

(a dot, with a waffled-edge circle around it) absolute stops
- Hit too often, too easily bro ker-abused.
+ Encourages active work around this absolute.

(a dot in a (square) frame) Sell when reason ('s area of effect) broke.
- Unclear reason (-ing ability) when wrong, so won't obey it.
+ Similar to "Sell early", only stated so more obviously adjustable.

(two dots, one in a frame and one not (thus, in effect, 'think' vs. 'know'); also, a line with an arrow on either side pointing to both dots, connoting an interchange between the two) Cut losses partially to drop chance of their getting away from you and let (the rest) return for an overall BE exit.
- Selling at small P/L offends ego after ego gets a taste of a reason that takes care of a much larger area, which conjoins and gets confused with the bigger in-trade drawdown that goes with such an area.
+ Creates sustain-type emotions that go with a dissociation from immediate reality.

(one dot and a short series of dashes, both within a waffled-edge circle) Stop early. (That is, "Nip it in the bud.")
- Distracting interruption from the swiftness of the action, may throw off entire session as much as a late exit would.
+ Invokes intuition, thus ego halted, although it's given potential energy to create an excuse with later.

overview of L: breakdown


P ......"Let your profits run."

(a dot in a (square) frame, to left of a short series of dashes, all enclosed in a waffled-edge circle) Limit at first reason.
- Small: "checked" ego or big: 'hesitant' ego
+ Big-reason error avoided.

(a dot in a frame, then a fading-into-unknown number in a series of overlapping frames-with-a-dot-inside) Trail-limit to each small reason at a time as a temporary hold, staying in.
- > No-reason, thus blind of an overall reason
+ Saves spread over a lot of reentries

(a dot) Limit preset , no-reason.
- Ignores self, circumstances
+ Easier to surround with reason.

(a (rectangular) frame with a few dots inside and several dots outside, all dots somewhat randomly strewn) Label any wholly-tradeable reason and treat same-side combos.
- "bottomless", too-trivial feeling that's difficult to target. Reasons mismatched, regardless of pattern that fits partial reasons together being wrong.
+ errors speedily adapted-to.

(a strong, sketchy (square) frame surrounding the wavy, solid-line path that may connect dots or other items) Intuitively match partial reasons, from views of indicators or other, that are to one's practiced mind old, slow and regular enough to fit into one profit-pattern that's the same with small variation every time.
- Shady controls.
+ Fast.

overview of P: build


chart logic

"a person may later rationalize an intuition by developing a chain of logic to demonstrate more structurally why the intuition is valid." -- 1

-- causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))
-- bias: copy(series of reasons for a sentencial conclusion)/angle(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)/speed (an en mass conclusion, its pieces as necessary as its entirety)/pattern(its entirety more important than its pieces)/TL(only its entirety important). Up vs. down (stocks); range vs. trend (pairs);volatility
in-trade drawdown, using trendlines to set TP,SL --
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge about the chart area and decreases in-trade drawdown / risk because that TL's all the price-time line has to go to. It's more of a balancing act, then, what with all the extra stuff to figure if things go wrong during the trade if the trade's watched.
Two trendlines just, at first glance, as good and in opposite directions of one's potential trade, can make for a decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown from attached TP/SL.
Multiple trendlines, and one has to read early patterns / candlework some time before or after the trade entry. SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.
chart perspective -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame

attention to contrast or continuity of an area
copy,
angle-- adjectives: counterweight, reversed,opposite,flipped ...
pattern: complex ( regular polygons; grid; trend -- a curve (fibo); a logr(fractal), midline(whole); other )
speed:
random(candles),
volatile (high-volatility candles area, as in news/session;
condensed, smaller-candles shape;
single, big run;
sharp shapes;
very low volume, price range)
fractal, fibo(ex. series: logr curve that's a step(level)wise breakdown(along increasingly vertical direction) of a run) or whole(half(compro), third(photog.), fourth(00's)
TL(s) and other drawing devices usually deliver stability (midlines) or intensity (momo) to speed in neatly divided areas that react to the TL(s). They can also extend along two short trends to an off-chart crossover spot to anchor a multi-TL device, and can be the only thing connecting one pure momo area with another one, a mixed area separating the two or three.
positioning: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (within or without area, aligning or no reaction).

same-as -- original reason fails at first, level hits way down the road

angle/line segment, midlines, balance point in a shape or area, logr skew

-- thread this thru chart as a single approach





another gann fan chooser --






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on post#1 --
Okay, they're saying I'm too confusing and sentencious again.
But it WORKS. Really.
Okay, not fast or automatically....

Naw, I LIKE it. It's for discretionary, which can be anywhere in a microsecond, and it's for a career, which involves any eventuality. Multiply the picture with these lists and definitions in post#1, and you'll find (with perhaps a little more explanation from previous posts -- not much, though) it works from where I am.


....

Traded next two posts,
and my results are abysmal. Results speak first.

screen: 'psychic alertness'
-- what pay da bill

emotion cycle specified for self, lines drawn for such a cycle to be validated with and replaced with a more physical version, and ...

the "angle - series of separate line segments,
midlines and a boxy grid,
balance dot - anchor with multiple lines from it into logr skew
(series of changes for a supportive single conclusion)" method:


Sometimes, in this method, you have to ignore your lines even while they're working, and go ahead and draw new ones in preparation for their working also/next.

another on same approach:
"Courage, patience and flexibility are the three qualities a trader needs, and it doesn't sound like you have even one." ,

attention suggestions, from a biofeedback perspective: 1


broker advice, from here:
"As long as they don't play the spike problem (spiking higher then the ecn's...many market makers do this. I have a post on this site that proves it with jpg's...not oanda), the shut down problem (shutting the system down for a few minutes just before a major event...there's a very well known market maker that does this practically everyday), the spread thing (ecn's can have little widening during news), the delay problem(15 seconds or more to close out an order or a very long requote). Download a demo ecn and run it with the other broker next to it. This usually gives away the games during a few weeks of comparing. I can trade my ecn during news. No crazy spread! The limit thing is a given. If you scalp...you may have problems getting in on a good break with a non ecn. You'll find it out after you wait for hours and try to get in."



getting the right mix of angle,midline and logr --

the area before has a heavy horizontal line to it

and the area anchoring and just inside the gann fan have midline features to them

the midlines play up off the early horizontal line

so that a big drop and run both occur, from a low jump at the gann fan's start and a squared-off line segment near its start with a decent jump a little later into the gann fan









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post#1, new:



courage

emotion



depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.


Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)
-- To adjust: a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion.
Background Reward (Contingency) Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened.
Contingency
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
incontiguity, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
Contiguity
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)

patience

chart

.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.

familiarity and resistance

shared self, that is, the wake-up / emergent cycle --
1. entity given name for positioning
a. name position
b. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emotional reaction to attention to, and compile, inner octopi (octopus: role with multiple abilities)
2. doubt/threaten/reject
a. release other thoughts
b. doubt other positions
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
a. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
b. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4. stimulus: pattern preset, introduction with real pattern, copy real pattern
a. stimulus introduction
b. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5. breakdown and reintroduction
a. rejector breaks down, copies in single, tiny and original way the position
b. reintroduction: up-to-speed match of position-named w/others
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

flexibility

mm
Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong
You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.
Even then, you'll only be aware through however you feel and think at the time, rather than how the market acts.
a brief example
Say you're nervous from encounters with others during the day, and you have the rest of the day off from a job or chores. You have a boss, and felt a little pushed at work today; plus, other things not in your control are weighing on you at the moment.
This stuff will translate into how you approach using your well-practiced chart study to find a new trade.


P/L METHODS LIST

L ....."Cut your losses short." overview of L: breakdown
Sell a little at a time.
- Disobeys margin-call rule, that is, you can keep going and never really know when to stop.
+ Lose a little, gain a lot.
absolute stops
- Hit too often, too easily bro ker-abused.
+ Encourages active work around this absolute.
Sell when reason ('s area of effect) broke.
- Unclear reason (-ing ability) when wrong, so won't obey it.
+ Similar to "Sell early", only stated so more obviously adjustable.
Cut losses partially to drop chance of their getting away from you and let (the rest) return for an overall BE exit.(thus, in effect, 'think' vs. 'know')
- Selling at small P/L offends ego after ego gets a taste of a reason that takes care of a much larger area, which conjoins and gets confused with the bigger in-trade drawdown that goes with such an area.
+ Creates sustain-type emotions that go with a dissociation from immediate reality.
Stop early. (That is, "Nip it in the bud.")
- Distracting interruption from the swiftness of the action, may throw off entire session as much as a late exit would.
+ Invokes intuition, thus ego halted, although it's given potential energy to create an excuse with later.

P ......"Let your profits run." overview of P: build
Limit at first reason.
- Small: "checked" ego or big: 'hesitant' ego
+ Big-reason error avoided.
Trail-limit to each small reason at a time as a temporary hold, staying in.
- > No-reason, thus blind of an overall reason
+ Saves spread over a lot of reentries
Limit preset , no-reason.
- Ignores self, circumstances
+ Easier to surround with reason.
Label any wholly-tradeable reason and treat same-side combos.
- "bottomless", too-trivial feeling that's difficult to target. Reasons mismatched, regardless of pattern that fits partial reasons together being wrong.
+ errors speedily adapted-to.
Intuitively match partial reasons, from views of indicators or other, that are to one's practiced mind old, slow and regular enough to fit into one profit-pattern that's the same with small variation every time.
- Shady controls.
+ Fast.


logic
"a person may later rationalize an intuition by developing a chain of logic to demonstrate more structurally why the intuition is valid." -- 1
causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))

perspective: chart -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame
: study -- -- Sometimes, in this method, you have to ignore your lines even while they're working, and go ahead and draw new ones in preparation for their working also/next.
Second, your lines may be near-perfect for the area, and yet reveal little to trade vertically with; one must be psychologically prepared for this.

series* balance dot - anchor w/sev'l lines from logr, angles - series of separate line segments, divided area - boxy grid
* fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro; angles: vert'l,diag'l,hz), third(photog.), fourth(00's)) -- Oft break/build from older support-resistance

trendlines or other drawing devices
positioning: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (w/in,/out area, aligning or no reaction)
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge
Two trendlines decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown
Multiple trendlines : SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.

The boil-down of my method -- that is, without the psych (which is essential to trading) -- is an efficient one line of text and three shapes:

series* balance dot - anchor w/sev'l lines from logr, angles - series of separate line segments, divided area - boxy grid
* fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro; angles: vert'l,diag'l,hz), third(photog.), fourth(00's)) -- Oft break/build from older support-resistance

-- That is, balance dot, angles, and divided area, each a type of series, with the series numbered often / to help with fractal, fibo or whole, and all to consider break/build from older support-resistance. Trendlines and other drawing devices project from these shapes.

It works, as long as one is sharp about it. Experience necessary.























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retitled post#1:










patience


un-self-affected exchange with another's projected cycle

depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
to
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.

react to another's projected cycle

.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.

join another's projected cycle

shared self, that is, the wake-up / emergent cycle --
1. entity given name for positioning
a. name position
b. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emotional reaction to attention to, and compile, inner octopi (octopus: role with multiple abilities)
2. doubt/threaten/reject
a. release other thoughts
b. doubt other positions
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
a. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
b. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4. stimulus: pattern preset, introduction with real pattern, copy real pattern
a. stimulus introduction
b. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5. breakdown and reintroduction
a. rejector breaks down, copies in single, tiny and original way the position
b. reintroduction: up-to-speed match of position-named w/others
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

flexibility

mm
Reason TP,SL,BE. Raise BE, cut SL, and extend TP.
If fails, then range: I made consistent profit at high percentages every time periodI made an extreme amount with a special method, then stopped; churned, so made a little over a lot of time with a lot of tradesI made a lot then lost it all, so now I'm even; every single trade I make is wrong
You lost once medium or big, you lose all. You lose small, you get to trade another day. You lose your edge, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, even if you don't trade.
Even then, you'll only be aware through however you feel and think at the time, rather than how the market acts.
a brief example
Say you're nervous from encounters with others during the day, and you have the rest of the day off from a job or chores. You have a boss, and felt a little pushed at work today; plus, other things not in your control are weighing on you at the moment.
This stuff will translate into how you approach using your well-practiced chart study to find a new trade.


P/L METHODS LIST

L ....."Cut your losses short." overview of L: breakdown
Sell a little at a time.
- Disobeys margin-call rule, that is, you can keep going and never really know when to stop.
+ Lose a little, gain a lot.
absolute stops
- Hit too often, too easily bro ker-abused.
+ Encourages active work around this absolute.
Sell when reason ('s area of effect) broke.
- Unclear reason (-ing ability) when wrong, so won't obey it.
+ Similar to "Sell early", only stated so more obviously adjustable.
Cut losses partially to drop chance of their getting away from you and let (the rest) return for an overall BE exit.(thus, in effect, 'think' vs. 'know')
- Selling at small P/L offends ego after ego gets a taste of a reason that takes care of a much larger area, which conjoins and gets confused with the bigger in-trade drawdown that goes with such an area.
+ Creates sustain-type emotions that go with a dissociation from immediate reality.
Stop early. (That is, "Nip it in the bud.")
- Distracting interruption from the swiftness of the action, may throw off entire session as much as a late exit would.
+ Invokes intuition, thus ego halted, although it's given potential energy to create an excuse with later.

P ......"Let your profits run." overview of P: build
Limit at first reason.
- Small: "checked" ego or big: 'hesitant' ego
+ Big-reason error avoided.
Trail-limit to each small reason at a time as a temporary hold, staying in.
- > No-reason, thus blind of an overall reason
+ Saves spread over a lot of reentries
Limit preset , no-reason.
- Ignores self, circumstances
+ Easier to surround with reason.
Label any wholly-tradeable reason and treat same-side combos.
- "bottomless", too-trivial feeling that's difficult to target. Reasons mismatched, regardless of pattern that fits partial reasons together being wrong.
+ errors speedily adapted-to.
Intuitively match partial reasons, from views of indicators or other, that are to one's practiced mind old, slow and regular enough to fit into one profit-pattern that's the same with small variation every time.
- Shady controls.
+ Fast.


logic
"a person may later rationalize an intuition by developing a chain of logic to demonstrate more structurally why the intuition is valid." -- 1
causation ( relationship between the variables is non-spurious (there is not a third variable causing the effect), the temporal order is in line (cause before effect), and the study is longitudinal (2 repeated observations of the same variables over long periods of time))

perspective: chart -- height times #bars times width; which bars versus the current ones; time frame
: study -- -- Sometimes, in this method, you have to ignore your lines even while they're working, and go ahead and draw new ones in preparation for their working also/next.
Second, your lines may be near-perfect for the area, and yet reveal little to trade vertically with; one must be psychologically prepared for this.

series* balance dot - anchor w/sev'l lines from logr, angles - series of separate line segments, divided area - boxy grid
* fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro; angles: vert'l,diag'l,hz), third(photog.), fourth(00's)) -- Oft break/build from older support-resistance

trendlines or other drawing devices
positioning: hi touch (pivot), mid cut(minor pivot, aligns within area),lo mid- (w/in,/out area, aligning or no reaction)
One trendline to go to, increases risk because of less apparent knowledge
Two trendlines decent channel but a lousy in-trade drawdown
Multiple trendlines : SL is off the charts, because a misreading of the early patterns could watch the price-time line trend solidly away and still obey the trendlines.


courage

emotion




Responses of Amygdala Neurons to Positive Reward-Predicting Stimuli Depend on Background Reward (Contingency) Rather Than Stimulus-Reward Pairing (Contiguity)
-- To adjust: a positivity ratio of 3-to-1.....three positive emotions to counteract one negative emotion.
Background Reward (Contingency) Hanging around one level, minor-key 7th below the level then 2nd above it as if that's the ultimate place to go to then be harmed ("That's it, you've had it" place and then follow-thru on threat), high-vibrato on the level several times in increasing amount until exhaust the threatened.
Contingency
being there.....................serenity,pride
getting there...................hope,inspiration
incontiguity, a definition --
If you wait until after the opportunity to enter or exit is gone or someone else says to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway,
or impulsively jump in or out before checking the trade fully or someone else says not to do it and they're wrong and you know it and you do it anyway
Contiguity
receive/capture it............gratitude, interest
relate to it......................amusement exclusion (low) -- love exclusion (mid) -- awe exclusion (high)



















series* balance dot - anchor w/sev'l lines from logr, angles - series of separate line segments, divided area - boxy grid
* fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro; angles: vert'l,diag'l,hz), third(photog.), fourth(00's)) -- Oft break/build from older support-resistance
un-self-affected exchange with another's projected cycle
depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.
react to another's projected cycle
.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.
join another's projected cycle
shared self, that is, the wake-up / emergent cycle --
1. entity given name for positioning
a. name position b. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emotional reaction to attention to, and compile, inner octopi (octopus: role with multiple abilities)
2. doubt/threaten/reject
a. release other thoughts b. doubt other positions
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
a. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
b. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4. stimulus: pattern preset, introduction with real pattern, copy real pattern
a. stimulus introduction b. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5. breakdown and reintroduction
a. rejector breaks down, copies in single, tiny and original way the position b. reintroduction: up-to-speed match of position-named w/others
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

Sorry, another.

Dropped post#1's amount of content to something I thought I could use.

Psych combines with chart technicals a lot better,
and the new psych is more universal.






Own projected cycle:
series* balance dot - anchor w/sev'l lines from logr, angles - series of separate line segments, divided area - boxy grid
* fractal, fibo or whole(half(compro; angles: vert'l,diag'l,hz), third(photog.), fourth(00's)) -- Oft break/build from older support-resistance
un-self-affected exchanges with another's projected cycle
depression -> flow -> ecstacy each trade
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.
reacts to another's projected cycle
.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.
joins another's projected cycle
shared self, that is, the wake-up / emergent cycle --
1. entity given name for positioning a. name position b. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emot'l rxn to atn to, compile, inner octopi (octopus: role w/multiple abilities)
2. doubt/threaten/reject a. release other thoughts b. doubt other positions
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
a. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
b. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4. stimulus: pattern preset, intro w/real pattern, copy real ptrn a. stimulus introduction b. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5. breakdown and reintroduction
a. rejector breaks down, copies in single,tiny,original way the position b. reintro: up-to-speed match of pstn-named w/others
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.






example of use:


-- (re)act nerves overloaded during VS. light attention before the fact, heavy after the fact

.
-- In order:
1 A need for stomach-heart balance;
2 cookie-cutter path with polarized, skewed views (i.e. with grid and well-centered);
3 several paths over nerves gives role with abilities;
4 centered,sharp version of nervous reaction and emotions catalyzes directed focus


-- The idea, which I've done before, is to keep a journal of my personal life
in a way that shows what affects my trading
at the same time it gives no specifics.
I'm interested in the relative nature, resemblance to trading actions, and possible losses from these action patterns.



-- area
-- to-do: how much, when, how well
-- fight-or-flight vs. what thoughts do this
-- what's in control, and proximity to /echoes from it, when





2016, 11302011 It worked! First demo simulator trade is always the scariest.
I looked for a trend in my journals and traded in understanding it. In this case, a strong, anti-self trend had developed, so I was channelling with the majority in the wrong. Plus, I was combative, so I'd show resistance in staying with this majority in my struggle.
This is all vs. the truer way, my first instinct. There wasn't even a hint of this other way.

This one works around a midline area -- that is, a grid area -- and so represents price gaining momentum off the distant Gann Fan AND the midline area's off-portion lines.
There is also history provided for confirmation of the double-ellipse's validity.







Note (along with the pivotal, short line segment before it and on the line it projects backward) highlight anchors of the two rays between the two anchors:




I was sure the two scissored rays would have a run between them; I just forgot to include their input in the trade, since I was into proving the 30-pip run that defines the Gann Fan's likely influence.



I've been postulating to myself for a while that certain early spiking in a Gann Fan results in a more faithful Gann Fan and the reverse in a less faithful one; and, this partial use of such a postulate gives more credence to it. Likely, the inventor and longtime users of the Gann Fan already know(s) this.
Note the name of the chart below: It worked. It jumped 20 pips up, then consolidated to 10 pips up, and finally balanced to run along already-present momo another 25 pips from the 10, making the trade.



-- And yes, I used the journal trades approach. I'd margin-called after the last post, because the first-time use of the approach was too perfect and I fell into thinking about how muddled my thinking was during the time I made the journal about.
In the trade above, I spinned to higher ground, in glancing over the journal to now and adjoining my current need for innovation, leveraging the and justifying with the inner energy the former produced.

The journal approach has a good chance of working because it's faithful to how I am recently and thus, to a large degree, now. Such awareness may eventually help me correct myself from such a mistake as noted with the trade charted above.

HEY!!!!!!!!!!

I traded another, and price obeyed the MIDLINE OF THE GANN FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow!
And, it correlated with a line within the midline area.

What happened, was the balance area still in momo just below the trade I exited from, was in another sense
a condensed!
And so boom! to the gann fan midline.

As for my next trade, stupid me went for the lower lines of both the Gann Fan and the midline area,
and so am likely to lose because of the amount of time it'll take for price to return to these up-slanted lines.

Yup. Now, it's basically a new trade reason, expecting a profit from here.

.









Well, I guess it goes to show,
if you can justify and convincingly project from it,
it'll produce results, fantastic or mediocre. I recall having done a mediocre-result trade a few posts ago.


Okay, return to work:

With a large in-trade drawdown,
I got the next trade.
A downward Gann Fan showed up in the guise of a curve-like area
after some near-random trendlines,
and so, coincidentally to how I was thinking at the time -- vs. earlier, when I was all convinced price'd return to the first Gann Fan's lower lines --
I got the trade:

Another trade:
That implied ellipse, I drew this time. Only I missed its true impact on missed opportunity on the lower as well as the old midline area's impact (I guess) on the higher.
After such a poor showing on these two points,
I tried to justify such a strong down run by establishing how strong the initial pivot was:




Anyhow, I may get this one trade pictured before the exit:


No, and so the most-old Gann Fan has no more impact, except in a minor way with the bunched, lowest lines.

Lost one.
Lost another.

Okay, this trade has a chance.
An old, very good trendline has taken hold of price,
and so I've a big in-trade drawdown.
I'm looking for a box to be returned to, it being in the middle of a wide (P), short (T) area.



--- On the journal approach:
I set in on a compromise for myself by accepting the mainstream idea -- negative so combative, but consistent and I do keep going -- common to all three journals;
thus, I set in a high in-trade drawdown.
This has worked for me in the past, in particular when I made my 1000pct in 17 hours account a few years ago. I'd looked for it in Trade Explorer when I looked at a top trader (Ramses II, and the price-trapping approach on the member's charts.)
So, my crazy trade worked:
(well, no, well-reasoned; it just stretches the gut-trace feel to its limits)



So, I ended up with a slight profit (5%) over six trades for the last several posts.
Lousy, when I average +-5% a trade on a poor trade, a decent trade being >10%.




-----------------
PERSPECTIVE
leading to better decisions on what to reason on the chart

hypothesis:

A new pre-theory of mine is that emotion projects into a new environs and fight-or-flight response starts a new environs. Thus, e.f. is a way to measure perspective.
The squiggly lines in my latest picture in post#1 then look to be affect in the body of a current environs, or rather one's pathway as somewhat projected from the old-to-current environs boundary.

This notion is about the same thing I've been drawing in pictures all along. A little more credence helps to keep it going, is all, and even to tie it into trades I've been flubbing, such as the big in-trade drawdowns and trade losses from the account documented in the last several posts.


The idea is that
the brain
imagines in a circular flow of electro-chemicals
which peak in differentiation at the main controls at the front of the brain
and spread to describe an entire environs at the back of the brain.
The front top of the brain describes actions within that environs, thus mimicking one's involvement in the environs;
and, the middle of the brain on the vertical toward the top and front describes body parts
and the middle of the brain on the horizontal toward the bottom and rear describes, in ranking order, all things.
At least, this is my guesstimation from basic amateur readings and reading some good text several years ago.
The body,
on the other hand,
gets orders from the vertebrae (in a gross simplification, ignoring lots of chemical messages)
and usually walks forward and acts on tools and such often side-to-side and a bit forward,
and so thinks in terms of locomotion and projected action.

post#1 dump:

(nothing wrong with it, except too busy)

PATH

own projected cycle

reacts to another's
.....level of baseline volatility -- given this and to retain current and avoid a higher one being set, overwhelm may be accepted as normal in a gut/emotion profile
.....cycles, brain chemical - solid to electric impulse -sharp:
.....super-intense states, where everything is the same only exaggerated and thus much more dangerous --
A overwhelmed is a spike from low to high about an response to an object's action dominating, then submitting to the dominance;
B upside-down is doing everything exactly wrong, such as make an apparently good chart study and it's exactly to the pip a loser and one automatically trades it, or such as greed switches with hope and capitulation with anxiety (whereupon the diagonal opposites also change).
C Then, break even, if survive upside-down.
D Then, wildly up and down -- the gambling obsession.
E Finally, profit at a loss, that is, no trading plan. Gambling obsession takes over.
un-self-affected exchanges with another's
first, empty for reality: depression -- 2 (mood), a state of low mood and aversion to activity
1 ":Severe despondency and dejection, accompanied by feelings of hopelessness and inadequacy.A condition of mental disturbance, typically with lack of energy and difficulty in maintaining concentration or interest in life."
body of activity: Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.
-- When flow is engaged, a different model (see step 5. above) is used, to organize the objects that the activities work with.
last attention: ecstacy: a state of consciousness characterized by expanded spiritual awareness, visions or absolute euphoria ; a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of his or her awareness.
joins
1. entity given name for positioning a. name position b. reject position for another : 1price,diff't rsn:"same-as", etc.
1 i(nside) of self -- heavy gut traces adjust emot'l rxn to atn to, compile, inner octopi (octopus: role w/multiple abilities)
2. doubt/threaten/reject a. release other thoughts b. doubt other positions
2 features built atop inner octopi from most-slight attention to environs
3. helplessness, objectification among other objects
a. helpless, challenge why, other positions may take and their thoughts; also, where object appears (later, obj't as stim, after namer's first projecting wave(s) in next step); also, concatenate studies for 2+ trades
b. stimulus training through namer increasing range and impact of cyclic projection
3 i->o (of self, esp. vertical of) features with dots of r-points level fired up, strings tested to adjust ability; volatility added across the board of octopi and mental shapes produced from octopi's increased environs interaction
4. stimulus: pattern preset, intro w/real pattern, copy real ptrn a. stimulus introduction b. review -- stimulus cue from position namer
4 dots: string -- that is, how one dots (environmental cues), strings (pathways of attention, physical action, etc.) -- is still equal. With-volume shapes (which have their own r-points, produce their own octopi, encounter dots and strings) appear and interact, produce stimuli designed to react to in a certain way within the self.
5. breakdown and reintroduction a. rejector breaks down, copies in single,tiny,original way the position b. reintro: up-to-speed match of pstn-named w/others
5 >- adjusts octopus in terms of =,with-volume shapes; string set. HOW -- w/environs emotional balance achieved through completed emotion set. o-objects abbreviated patterns, each with own octopi.

.

.

NOW who's going to accuse me of sloppy thinking?



Refer to overlapping-ellipses Gann Fan in the recent posts 554-6:



quote:
"The ability to program, understand trading, have high risk tolerance and have a large amount of free capital is a very rare combination."


Hope I'm not annoying anyone with all my Gann Fans;
for some reason, I'm getting better with them.
Perhaps I've connected internally logarithms, or momo in temporary patterns,
with building Gann Fans over an entire area.
Anyway, they impress the h... out of me how they can reach up and tell where something goes -- If you draw it well, that is.

post#1 dump:






I don't know, maybe I like it messy....



Forget that, here's something only I'll understand:





post#1, new:



.
NOTE: Run through scenarios using this, to avoid redoing the thing and to maximize its psychological benefits.




Okay, I'll try this.
dopamine, serotonin, acetycholine and GABA, as often noted and described according to ...
well...
Just use the big arrows / symbols to understand what kind of umph each one brings. SIMPLE, I gotta make it, so I don't trip up in acting like I know more than I do (which is almost literally nothing) and also retain the value of their relative positioning (in a thinking model I made and described often (thus contradicting the last parenthesized clause bit). Yeah, well, whatever, that was about ...I always end up feeling the need to justify my existence.
That's why I like d,s,a,g better, to deemphasize their meaning for a useful one that the provided may be.

I'll just use it, and if it hits paydirt and I can then explain it so others understand it, that's good enough.
Of course, I'm a perfectionist and rather lazy at the same time ; )


try 1:
thot, jumped past lower line being hit; so, SL hit.
2:
very aggressive. Hoping earlier pushes up on price have an eventual turn, and the midlines are an indication of this run. Willing to risk ... Okay, a better short is to a longterm support.
Okay, another loss. I rejected experience with Gann Fans for an absurdity.
3:
-41 pips to now. Not too bad; here on, the waters get rough.
Okay, a slight rebalancing happened after a 50-75-pip run.
Maybe a small fan will happen for a short. Then again, I'm stuck on the idea of price dropping.
Got that one for 75 pips. So, +34 pips to the good, which is about 5% in three trades.
4:
Demo has missing data: No trade.
5:
same-as. Went up too far, then broke the fan downward. +59 pips for +95 pips.
NOTE -- This is paper-trading a demo simulator, so forget about accuracy.
6:
Sliding l.p.4 to under a dominant density. Ignored what I just wrote for a simple hz off the density, and m-c'ed.
Well, you could say -30 pips, since I had +95 pips. Reeks of bad mm, tho.
7:
a simple hz, after a neat single-angle reverse (where lots of these happened just before the last trade.)
Made 65 pips for a total of +35 pips. I've no idea how much $ that is now.
1 (another account (didn't mc again, only started a new one); adding it to last one)):
Made 32 points. Total +67 pips.
2
-21 for +46
3
-62 for -12
4
0 for same
5
+49 for +37
6
20 for 21 to gann fan.
y for +58
7
compro, possible curve divergence, last pivot high's trend at odd angle for 75 with break past A&E for 40 SL.
No, SOB tilded(curve and reverse curve directly below it) on me. Microtrends serializing vs. me: Exit early.
-3 for +55.
8
TP'ed the former SL -- had good reason -- for 37. +92 total.
9
Manually-drawn gann fan. Pinch up or high-in-trade-drawdown down?
Wait.
Entered: Gann fan broke. Lots of sharp-edged shapes lining up an increasing angle towards up.
Before mgf, lots of midline as well as the twisty midline. Continued with short.
+32 for +124 total.
10
Old support may be broken, or at least revisited. Risky, so 30 SL.
No, didn't SL and let it ride ~100 pips in the red.
New gann fan was solid and downward like trade, so looked for upturn to exit, right or wrong as it was for current trade.
+3 for +127.
11
+40asdf;aslkj;.
12
mc'ed. The top of that tilde WAS a gann fan, as put in. Ran 155 pips against me.
Usually I cut it off at 125 and keep going. So, -125 for +45. New account, though, as price ran a total of 200 pips against me in an hour or four.
First mm, now second meaning of same area. TOO good at gann fans, gotta be more aware.
13



try 2 (and on, I hope)
1
115itdd,3T
2
My philosophy is this:
-----------Be open and free to let price go where it wants to go, regardless of one's own entry: It's nothing or number of pips gained or lost. With this, allow price to run free within the constraints of one's uninhibited in-trade loss in order to fulfill one's reason. If one realizes one's reason is misjudged, then exit upon reason's first area break. There is a middle ground, but tread lightly.-------------
-9 T -6
4
47 T41
5
15 T56
6
counting on a manual, sideways gann fan
-50 wrong line in it T 6 simple, poor decisions from plain choices
7
-30 or something
8
-35, shut down platform got caught in a range going the wrong way each time T-59
9
gann fan -- midline up and then go down
------------It's the trendline (within a certain, often-unknown R:R) that counts, not my wants or needs.------------

------------{to now, rewritten}
Be open and free to let price go where it wants to go, if the reason is smaller than a trendline;
and if larger such as a trendline, appreciate how well or poorly is the device, and work with it.
Regardless of one's own entry, it's nothing if a number of pips are gained or lost: It's not what I want or need, it's what the chart does.
With this, allow price to run free within the constraints of one's uninhibited in-trade loss in order to find one's reason. On the other hand, if one realizes one's reason is misjudged, then exit upon first break of the reason's area. There is a middle ground, but tread lightly.
-------------


(new account)
7 T-52
10
now at +45, looking for an exit. 57, T5
11
Last leg of gann fan -- Let it ride, and then turn it around.
57, T62 Coincidence on same number.
12
30 T92
3
run, mid stop, reverse -- hmm, worried.
wait and hope... not a good place to be. It's feeding along a downward gann fan, on a long.
34 or so T124