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  • #521
  • Nov 30, 2011 10:15am Nov 30, 2011 10:15am
Quoting deankenny21
Fratelli EJ loser

-20
I too...
  • #522
  • Nov 30, 2011 12:22pm Nov 30, 2011 12:22pm
Ok another day over here we go

Invictus

Gu +0.2
EU +0.9

Total = +1.1


Fratelli

AU +0.6
EJ +5.3
EU -25
EU +9.6
EJ +6.7
EJ -20

Total = -22.8


totals since start of test

Invictus = 10 winners 6 loser = -60.7pips
Fratelli = 54 Winners 22 loser = +208.7pips

Ok so it was a mixed day with that huge up move on ny open, after that it all went flat, invictus trades were instantly invalid because the room up was wiped out with that move

ad for fratelli, finished down around 20 pips or so, on a day like today, i dont think many people will moan at that kind of loss giving the gains it does make on average, next few days we got lot news and NFP, so will be a interesting end to the week.
  • #523
  • Dec 1, 2011 4:09am Dec 1, 2011 4:09am
Sorry guys late to post, was trading and doing sme other work too, anyway todays results so far

Invictus

GU +10


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20

Total = -10.5
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  • #524
  • Edited 5:39am Dec 1, 2011 5:35am | Edited 5:39am
Quoting deankenny21
Sorry guys late to post, was trading and doing sme other work too, anyway todays results so far

Invictus

GU +10


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20

Total = -10.5
shouldt EJ PO have been invalidated after candle close above 89ema? and new PO 4pip below 3. candle from first break ,which would not have been triggered apparently ?
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  • #525
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:37am Dec 1, 2011 5:37am
Quoting mgokhank
shouldt EJ PO have been invalidated after candle close above 89ema? and new PO 4pip below 3. candle from first break ,which would not have been triggered apparently ?
Nope, if u can find in the PDF anywhere where it says to cancel PO on close above MA then let me know
  • #526
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:47am Dec 1, 2011 5:47am
Quoting deankenny21
Nope, if u can find in the PDF anywhere where it says to cancel PO on close above MA then let me know
PDF page5 picture says that close below 89, close above 89 and finally close below 89ema and Peter indicates the last candle closed below 89ema as signal candle. pls correct me if I am wrong. thank you
  • #527
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:48am Dec 1, 2011 5:48am
Quoting mgokhank
PDF page5 picture says that close below 89, close above 89 and finally close below 89ema and Peter indicates the last candle closed below 89ema as signal candle. pls correct me if I am wrong. thank you
I still dont see where it says to cancel the PO that would still be sitting there?

asa i said before, please show me where it says to CANCEL a PO with a move above ma the below ?
  • #528
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:30am Dec 1, 2011 6:30am
Fratelli AU small winner

+3
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  • #529
  • Dec 1, 2011 7:11am Dec 1, 2011 7:11am
Invictus Loser GU

-20
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  • #530
  • Dec 1, 2011 7:31am Dec 1, 2011 7:31am
Fratelli EJ winner

my spread widened to 10 for the big news this why i was taken out

+3.3
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  • #531
  • Dec 1, 2011 9:17am Dec 1, 2011 9:17am
Fratelli AU small winner BE trade

+2.2
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  • #532
  • Dec 1, 2011 9:34am Dec 1, 2011 9:34am
Fratelli EJ loser

-20
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  • #533
  • Dec 1, 2011 9:37am Dec 1, 2011 9:37am
today

Invictus

GU +10
GU -20

Total = -20


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20
EJ -20
AU +3
EJ +3.3
AU +2.2
EJ -20

Total = -42
  • #534
  • Dec 1, 2011 11:07am Dec 1, 2011 11:07am
Fratelli losers

Eu -25
AU -20


EJ still floating

cant be bothered to post charts lol too many at once as they all got signals at once
  • #535
  • Dec 1, 2011 11:57am Dec 1, 2011 11:57am
Quoting deankenny21
Fratelli losers

Eu -25
AU -20


EJ still floating

cant be bothered to post charts lol too many at once as they all got signals at once

Dean,

Yep, you are right.

Since I also trade the correlations and hedges among pairs, lately the correlation among EU and AU and NZDUSD sometimes reaches above 90%.

So, it is not a good ideas in your real live account (demo acc is okay) to trade these highly correlated pairs at the same time.

They will all win or they will all lose at the same time. it is much better to use these correlated pairs to confirm the best and strongest pair and only trade that best pair.

You will need a good Currency correlation strength power meter to determine which pair is the strongest and the best pair to trade at the moment. Other highly correlated pairs can be used to confirm this best and strongest pair. Etc. I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here. If not, PM me, I will show you some examples.
  • #536
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:28pm Dec 1, 2011 6:28pm
Dean did your last EJ trade got closed at sl at 22:00 GMT?
  • #537
  • Dec 2, 2011 4:19am Dec 2, 2011 4:19am
ok so the last ej closed at +1
so yesterday results were

Invictus

GU +10
GU -20

Total = -20


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20
EJ -20
AU +3
EJ +3.3
AU +2.2
EJ -20
EU -25
AU -20
EJ +1

Total = -86


ouch very bad day all round alot of heat over at Fratelli regarding everything. Its become a huge mess inside that thread with a complete MISH MASH of different charts, and rules being broken, i feel so sorry for Peter as this must be so stressful for him.

On that note, -86 is nearly half of all the profits fratelli has earnt in 3 weeks, which is scary in one day. I feel we are trading a bit blind with no backtest on the current rule structure. So on that note i have removed the system from my live account same with invictus.

Until Fratelli is tidied up and had official backtest results, and we are all using that one template, i will consider re entering until then, i wish them luck as i bow out
  • #538
  • Dec 2, 2011 4:36am Dec 2, 2011 4:36am
Quoting deankenny21

ouch very bad day all round alot of heat over at Fratelli regarding everything. Its become a huge mess inside that thread with a complete MISH MASH of different charts, and rules being broken, i feel so sorry for Peter as this must be so stressful for him.

On that note, -86 is nearly half of all the profits fratelli has earnt in 3 weeks, which is scary in one day.
You are right, but you have to consider this is the NonFarm Payroll Week...in these days market is really crazy.
  • #539
  • Dec 2, 2011 7:22am Dec 2, 2011 7:22am
I agree with you Dean, became far too complicated with different templates & indicators, thought I was upto date, turned out I had out of date indicators!
Glad Peter has removed it all, hope it comes back & keeps the thread tidy.
Hopefully it will be sorted over the weekend

Hawki
  • #540
  • Dec 2, 2011 1:47pm Dec 2, 2011 1:47pm
Quoting deankenny21
ok so the last ej closed at +1
so yesterday results were

Invictus

GU +10
GU -20

Total = -20


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20
EJ -20
AU +3
EJ +3.3
AU +2.2
EJ -20
EU -25
AU -20
EJ +1

Total = -86


ouch very bad day all round alot of heat over at Fratelli regarding everything. Its become a huge mess inside that thread with a complete MISH MASH of different charts, and rules being broken, i feel so sorry for Peter as this...

Hi Dean, yesterday was the worst day for this GREAT SYSTEM... but not for losses.... Many people took losses because it was the day before NFP, other people took losses because the difference in indi's colors, other took losses because bad knoweledge of the rules. (as Peter pointed out westerday late and today: when a SAR occur, we must scratch the PO and set a new PO.... that saved me in early morning from a bad trade in EJ.......). Considereing all these facts, that's why I stopped trading after making + 36 pips.....

Btw. Was a bad day with other systems too....

The system is good & strong, we just need to solve the technical issue about candles... and clearly understand & respect rules. There will be bad days, obviously, but maybe we could stop trading after a daily target (e.g. + 30/40 pips) and after a max losse of -50/60 pips (preserving us from choppy markets days)...
I read some books about professional trading where is said a daily target and a max daily loss preserve account from big losses and make it grow....
I traded 2 days this week and stopped the first @ + 60 and the second (yesterday) @ + 36... made about 10%... Never made it before.... Anyone think it's enough...?
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