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  • #3,221
  • Nov 26, 2011 3:23am Nov 26, 2011 3:23am
Quoting stupip
But the information here mixed, and there is no clear understanding of how to actually use these information....
That is because most of us here have actually different styles of working. There is no ONE system that you can learn. You will have to pick that which you are most comfortable with, try to understand it, then move on to other things to grow.

Some interesting things: aspects, longitude

Time is not meassured in bars, years, months, days, hours... time is meassured in degrees.

price=time=degrees


Good luck!
  • #3,222
  • Nov 26, 2011 10:24am Nov 26, 2011 10:24am
Financial Astrology is highly subjective,and most of all, as James said, it is a second tool. it can not tell you when to buy or sell accurately. it need experience.

If you are an astrologer, you must can understand what i mean.If not, maybe can not understand. this method is NOT RIGID but highly subjective.it is not doing measurement of the market,but check the behavior of the market.

if you do buy or sell only according to this, there is no difference from gamble.
  • #3,223
  • Nov 26, 2011 10:34am Nov 26, 2011 10:34am
for Natal Dates,i have to say, it is also subjective.
it means that some works and some does not.but you can not say the dates are wrong, it just not comfortable when we use it.
  • #3,224
  • Nov 26, 2011 8:31pm Nov 26, 2011 8:31pm
Quoting hiroki
Financial Astrology is highly subjective
Perhaps you demonstrate this then? Because if you look careful enough there have been calls made in this forum for quite some time now that are no different from the calls made in other forums.

A year ago there was someone in this forum that said the onus to prove was on us. So the question was "how?". The answer to that question was by making calls.

Ok, so the calls have been made, this person who so badly wanted the calls has disappeared. Now the next person (you!) comes and starts with the same.

Go VERIFY the frigging calls, then come back to talk about subjectiveness. Goodday.
  • #3,225
  • Nov 26, 2011 10:06pm Nov 26, 2011 10:06pm
For amateurs, it may seem very subjective...but for advance practitioners, it's more like science...if it increases your probabilities consistently, it's legitimate.

JamesHongs also uses other Techincal Analysis to confirm...

So if JamesHong's technical analysis is 70% accurate, and his astro correlations is 70% accurate, and he only traded when that both matched...I'm sure his win rate is well over 80%...probably way more...

Remember, he was the one that made $200 into $3888 in like 11 days (with his micro account, he also has a standard account)...and did something similar a couple of months later...

I agree with Sti, I couldn't find one time where JamesHong was wrong in his predictions (actually once, but he re-corrected himself a couple hours later...and end being right as well)...
  • #3,226
  • Nov 27, 2011 4:59am Nov 27, 2011 4:59am
I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh in my previous post, but it is a bit annoying to have to repeat the same thing over again. Why don't we do a "Uranus" joke one more time, so that we've had one for this week?

For those who know me, I'm really a modest person, but I have to insist on "standing on my stripes" sometimes. You go to the University of Bradford, school of Management. It's in the UK. You go to the library, publications of 2004 and get publication MBBE2 0201A, it's title "An Analysis on the Behavior of Intangible Assets". It's mine.

Based on that publication I have set up a company, advice other companies, do my own trading and feed not just my family, but other's as well.

Now, if I have a piece of bread in my hand, of which I know that I took this money based on natural laws... then who is going to explain to me that it is subjective?

I really hope you can forgive me for using myself as an example, I assure you it's not narcism or arrogance.
  • #3,227
  • Nov 27, 2011 5:52am Nov 27, 2011 5:52am
Hmm.. Ur-anus and anal-ysis of in-tang-ible ass-ets, sounds good. LOL. LMAO. Laughing big tears here.

You're right, it's soo annoying when people who are stuck in their tiny little mental universe, keep telling you that you're wrong, when facts and reality keep proving you right. You're wrong, in THEIR world, but that shouldn't be bothering you. Congratulations and keep up the good work. Can I find that thesis online?

Quoting Sti
Now, if I have a piece of bread in my hand, of which I know that I took this money based on natural laws... then who is going to explain to me that it is subjective?

I really hope you can forgive me for using myself as an example, I assure you it's not narcism or arrogance.
Oh, here we are. One of my favourite words. Gambling. hiroki, do you know what gambling is? Not in a "subjective" way, but, like, in the dictionary? Gamble: "to play a game for money or property, to bet on an uncertain outcome". Wikipedia also has a nice way of putting things:

"Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Typically, the outcome of the wager is evident within a short period."

We are all gambling my friend. We are betting on uncertain outcomes, and, depending how you look at it, we're playing a game with/for money. Whether it's the most sophisticated, statistically-backed quant algo or buying and selling based on gut feel, it's the same, wagering money on an event.

Quoting hiroki
if you do buy or sell only according to this, there is no difference from gamble.
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #3,228
  • Nov 27, 2011 7:09am Nov 27, 2011 7:09am
Everything under the sun is subjective, and limited to the consciousness of the beholder seeing it, some are wrong some are right. Yet the ingredients of the soup are all predetermined and a constant UNTIL something changes their orders. You can chose to ignore these functions in ignorance or try and understand the depth at which the macro influences the micro within all things within all universes. THERE is no need to defend, just snicker and be humble and thankful your no longer restrained by the maze within the BOX of consciousness.
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #3,229
  • Nov 27, 2011 8:22am Nov 27, 2011 8:22am
Quoting OrionsWay
Everything under the sun is subjective, and limited to the consciousness of the beholder seeing it, some are wrong some are right. Yet the ingredients of the soup are all predetermined and a constant UNTIL something changes their orders. You can chose to ignore these functions in ignorance or try and understand the depth at which the macro influences the micro within all things within all universes. THERE is no need to defend, just snicker and be humble and thankful your no longer restrained by the maze within the BOX of consciousness.
With that I do humbly agree. Thanks for the reminder.
  • #3,230
  • Nov 27, 2011 8:23am Nov 27, 2011 8:23am
Quoting spekitox
Hmm.. Ur-anus and anal-ysis of in-tang-ible ass-ets, sounds good. LOL. LMAO. Laughing big tears here.
And that one made my day :-) Thank you!

I'll have to look for the original word files, I'll recompile it, will update you with a link.
  • #3,231
  • Nov 27, 2011 11:46am Nov 27, 2011 11:46am
hello my friends. i'm back

James is really a successful trader i've never seen before. he is also a really kind man. i do admire his trading. as a friend of him,i can say, his calls(prediction) , not only in this thread ,but also out of here, all have very high accuracy. almost more than 90%.

till now i'm also still using FA together with James. but not only FA.as well as james. cause sometimes the trend comes earlier than FA signal,sometimes later, sometimes nothing happen. what i want to say is that, if we ONLY use this, it is dangerous and still high risk. so i said, it is no difference from gamble if we ONLY use this. the word "gamble" ,sorry but i think it means random result, not high possibility trading.

about "subjective" and "gamble", sorry again maybe my english is not good, i said FA is highly subjective, but i do not said FA is useless.
subjective means, we must add our judgement of the MARKET, TOGETHER WITH FA. thats all. but FA also NOT RIGID. thats the REASON WHY james can make high accuracy calls, but some one else even use same method ,but can not do that.

and for Natal Dates , we already tested big amount of Natal Dates ,but some Dates still not comfortable for us. even the dates are right. this is another reason why i said it is subjective.

most of all, i think FA is helpful, but as james said, it is just a second tool.

happy trading to all friends here!!
  • #3,232
  • Nov 27, 2011 4:57pm Nov 27, 2011 4:57pm
Quoting hiroki
hello my friends. i'm back

James is really a successful trader i've never seen before. he is also a really kind man. i do admire his trading. as a friend of him,i can say, his calls(prediction) , not only in this thread ,but also out of here, all have very high accuracy. almost more than 90%.

till now i'm also still using FA together with James. but not only FA.as well as james. cause sometimes the trend comes earlier than FA signal,sometimes later, sometimes nothing happen. what i want to say is that, if we ONLY use this, it is dangerous and...

I can agree with that. Astro or any other cycle method.... actually just about any method period... shouldn't be taken as an automatic change in trend or trade entry signal on it's own. But even if it is, proper risk management should help keep things in check. So even if you do have a method that is 99.9% accurate, it's still necessary to maintain proper risk management and trade entry rules.
  • #3,233
  • Nov 29, 2011 1:00am Nov 29, 2011 1:00am
Quoting JR97
Here is a Euro daily chart. This is what I call my Pi in the Sky method. I took the larger cycle from the other charts and applied Pi to it. Then I found a Pie looking wedge on the chart and put fruity colored lines on it. The cycle lines labeled '0' are the cycle starts. The tops/bottoms highlighted by the squares are the forecasted fruit filling. yum yum. Stupid, I know. But hey.. I like pie and they were spot on. Can't argue with accuracy and can't argue with pie.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...13%2018.09.gif...
Updated. Nice move to the upside so far:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...28%2022.41.gif
  • #3,234
  • Nov 29, 2011 2:13am Nov 29, 2011 2:13am
I think it's done, at least I'm chickening out now that the H4 / Daily uptrend line was broken. Eyes on CAD/JPY (and other JPY pairs as well), I think they broke a H4 downtrend line, looking for other confirmation for longs ...

Quoting OrionsWay
Cadbury 1h in play as well for BIG swing up
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #3,235
  • Nov 29, 2011 2:26am Nov 29, 2011 2:26am
Quoting JR97
I can agree with that. Astro or any other cycle method.... actually just about any method period... shouldn't be taken as an automatic change in trend or trade entry signal on it's own. But even if it is, proper risk management should help keep things in check. So even if you do have a method that is 99.9% accurate, it's still necessary to maintain proper risk management and trade entry rules.
hi this is miza...

agree so much...
but FA can predict very accurately and its work well

Of course MM is the player


Quoting JR97
Updated. Nice move to the upside so far:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...28%2022.41.gif

i am the one of EW trader who say bullish too .. longterm
  • #3,236
  • Nov 29, 2011 3:01am Nov 29, 2011 3:01am
When in Rome, do as the romans do.

Yes, you need careful analysis, you need to have a look from every angle, because sloppy work, giving a lick and a promise won't do. The stars can give you the direction, but they won't tell you the "when" ... the market often goes against logic, as if it didn't want to accept its fate.

What is fate? Look the euro, a good example of what's everyone's responsibility is noone's responsibility ... I mean it's the currency of "european people" but there are no "european people", there are individual countries, no common language or history, no common heroes (on the contrary, national heroes are often traitors in other countries) that's why the euro will eventually break up but when?? Nobody knows.

Quoting hiroki
hello my friends. i'm back

James is really a successful trader i've never seen before. he is also a really kind man. i do admire his trading. as a friend of him,i can say, his calls(prediction) , not only in this thread ,but also out of here, all have very high accuracy. almost more than 90%.

till now i'm also still using FA together with James. but not only FA.as well as james. cause sometimes the trend comes earlier than FA signal,sometimes later, sometimes nothing happen. what i want to say is that, if we ONLY use this, it is dangerous and...
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #3,237
  • Nov 29, 2011 5:00am Nov 29, 2011 5:00am
Quoting spekitox
I think it's done, at least I'm chickening out now that the H4 / Daily uptrend line was broken. Eyes on CAD/JPY (and other JPY pairs as well), I think they broke a H4 downtrend line, looking for other confirmation for longs ...

Yep i liquidated as well, BUT will be reloading for sure when favourable again
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #3,238
  • Nov 30, 2011 4:12am Nov 30, 2011 4:12am
Quoting JR97
Updated. Nice move to the upside so far:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...28%2022.41.gif
Sir JR.. what software is this... plz reply... Thanks so much
  • #3,239
  • Nov 30, 2011 8:49am Nov 30, 2011 8:49am
Quoting arqish
Sir JR.. what software is this... plz reply... Thanks so much
http://www.cycle-trader.com/program/download.htm

It makes more sense if you have his books. It's also about 10 years old with no updates. It's hard to get data in to it, crashes a lot, and I can't believe what he's charging given that there are so many better/cheaper alternatives. I still use it to somewhat justify the purchase I guess, but I've had it for quite a while from when I bought all of his books.
  • #3,240
  • Dec 1, 2011 7:51am Dec 1, 2011 7:51am
Quoting JR97
http://www.cycle-trader.com/program/download.htm

It makes more sense if you have his books. It's also about 10 years old with no updates. It's hard to get data in to it, crashes a lot, and I can't believe what he's charging given that there are so many better/cheaper alternatives. I still use it to somewhat justify the purchase I guess, but I've had it for quite a while from when I bought all of his books.
Sir JR TQ so much .. i am so appreciated..

i was learning about this methodology Financial Astro, Gann etc... still zero and beginner...
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