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  • #3,141
  • Nov 13, 2011 6:43pm Nov 13, 2011 6:43pm
Quoting JR97
Tunnel Through the Air. Even the images on the cover and the back have astronomical meaning.

Here's a bit of trivia about that book... it was written well ahead of WWII, but in it Gann basically prophecies the US going to war with Japan after the Japanese lure the US fleet out somewhere for a trap. Even though it didn't play out exactly like that, it's pretty uncanny that it was that accurate.
similar to nostradamus? i dditnt know GAnn philosophize future events
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  • #3,142
  • Nov 13, 2011 6:45pm Nov 13, 2011 6:45pm
Quoting bumapatria
i am more of a simpler person. use synodics, and changes in planetary movement in means of signs. easier that way i say for me.
Synodics and planetary movement are much better, imho as well. Especially heliocentric. My opinion of geocentric is that it creates observable patterns from a perspective that isn't quite reality... that being everything revolves around the earth. While it may appear that way in the dance across the sky, the heliocentric view is what is actually going on.

My heliocentric cycles are a lot more spot on over longer periods of time than anything I've seen with geocentric. Not to mention do you use sidereal or tropical? Too many subjective variables whereas heliocentric is pretty cut and dry. Also, the harmonic relationships between the planets and their orbits is easy to map out in heliocentric. I'm mainly talking from an aspect and planetary relationship point of view. Planetary lines and such mapped to price is a different story.

Having said that, geocentric declination is a great line of study.

And I concur with the poster who mentioned the revolution of the Earth. Works great for intraday. Asc, Desc, MC, and IC.
  • #3,143
  • Nov 13, 2011 6:48pm Nov 13, 2011 6:48pm
Quoting bumapatria
similar to nostradamus? i dditnt know GAnn philosophize future events
Gann did forecasts for War and even Presidents.

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His market forecasts during the twenties were reportedly 85 percent accurate. But W. D. didn't confine his prognostications to prices. It was widely reported he predicted the elections of Wilson and Harding and, indeed, of every president since 1904.

http://www.webtrading.com/gannarticle2.htm

I've got a chart somewhere that shows Gann's Presidential cycle as well as his War cycle. Might be in a book I'd need to scan the charts out of. Don't recall.
  • #3,144
  • Nov 13, 2011 6:58pm Nov 13, 2011 6:58pm
I rarely if ever show my astro work. But just for my little bumpa, here's a long term heliocentric synodic cycle on a weekly chart of the euro. Pretty much spot on catching some major tops and bottoms.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...11%2009.04.gif


Then once, that primary cycle is a good match, it's just a matter of partitioning it out to the subcycles and then almost every top and bottom is caught.


http://content.screencast.com/users/...11%2009.07.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...11%2009.30.gif
  • #3,145
  • Nov 13, 2011 7:03pm Nov 13, 2011 7:03pm
thanks jr! little bumpa haha thats his nickname for me

heliocentric.... i never looked into that. i will surely. i read a nice book of larry pesavento, and heliocentrics are cycles to see into s well.

so Jr, do u just use the period's lenght and apply it on a chart? thats what i do. since moon and earth synodic period is averaged up is around 30 i use it from a major swing then retrace or the swing itself and it works fine. since cycles are mostly measured daily, is it posible to use same period length on intraday chart with example m15 and use 30 periods?

so how does it work out for you? actual data? or do you use what i use similar means?

if u do real data thats hard to find the dates for conjunctions etc. gannzilla doesnt say future movemets right? i found out that mercury is going to change signs soon and i will expect some sort of move, since mercury is planet resemblance of commerce and trade.. Japan? China?
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  • #3,146
  • Nov 13, 2011 7:20pm Nov 13, 2011 7:20pm
Yes, I basically apply a period's length to a chart. Actually, I try and find a cycle length that describes a swing high/low or series of highs or series of lows. Then once I have that, I move it around the chart.

Most of my heliocentric synodic work is for longer cycles weekly charts and some daily charts. For intraday, I just resort to my square methods. Sometimes for poops and giggles I'll map out the intraday astro forecasts off of the ephemeris and sq9.

Here is a Euro daily chart. This is what I call my Pi in the Sky method. I took the larger cycle from the other charts and applied Pi to it. Then I found a Pie looking wedge on the chart and put fruity colored lines on it. The cycle lines labeled '0' are the cycle starts. The tops/bottoms highlighted by the squares are the forecasted fruit filling. yum yum. Stupid, I know. But hey.. I like pie and they were spot on. Can't argue with accuracy and can't argue with pie.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...13%2018.09.gif
  • #3,147
  • Nov 13, 2011 7:44pm Nov 13, 2011 7:44pm
LOL pi... make me hungry now JR!

ill try that sometiem thankx mate nice cycle, im sure ur broker's upset u get those early moves and keep winnign!
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  • #3,148
  • Nov 13, 2011 11:54pm Nov 13, 2011 11:54pm
shorted eu

custom synodic cycles for me
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  • #3,149
  • Nov 14, 2011 3:45am Nov 14, 2011 3:45am
Quoting JR97

I've got a chart somewhere that shows Gann's Presidential cycle as well as his War cycle. Might be in a book I'd need to scan the charts out of. Don't recall.
???...do you have it? i think that do not exist, he forecasted wars and presidents but there are no charts of this cycles, there are no cycles of presidents he forecasted names without using astrology...

Quoting Mike Haran
Dates to look for a main turn
13.11.2011
23.11.2011
6.12.2011

By main I mean a couple of average daily ranges 200-400 pips
  • #3,150
  • Nov 14, 2011 7:12am Nov 14, 2011 7:12am
Quoting poli
???...do you have it? i think that do not exist, he forecasted wars and presidents but there are no charts of this cycles, there are no cycles of presidents he forecasted names without using astrology...

Why would I lie?
  • #3,151
  • Nov 14, 2011 7:20am Nov 14, 2011 7:20am
Pi in the Sky said 11-11-11 was a top so I shorted on Sunday. Reverted to using a Gann Square for the intraday timing and price levels.
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  • #3,152
  • Nov 14, 2011 7:22am Nov 14, 2011 7:22am
Quoting JR97
Pi in the Sky said 11-11-11 was a top so I shorted on Sunday. Reverted to using a Gann Square for the intraday timing and price levels.
sweet mama... nice one JR.

11-11-11 is also funny date.

so how would u use pi? say i use venus pluto synodic period which is 225. would i times it by pi or divide it by pi?

hmm.. what do you think?
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  • #3,153
  • Nov 14, 2011 7:27am Nov 14, 2011 7:27am
lets try it out

225 x 3.14 = 706.5

225 / 3.14 = 71.65

ill try them both out and share results
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  • #3,154
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:13am Nov 14, 2011 8:13am
energies are going dumpster diving MT LT
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #3,155
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:17am Nov 14, 2011 8:17am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Nice Sti!
3720 is now support. 3960 is target and on an extension we can get to 1.42. Price is now in a resistance area, when 3830 breaks we are ready for more accelerated price movement up.
Well that one was short lived :-) ah well, can't have them all.
  • #3,156
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:18am Nov 14, 2011 8:18am
Quoting JR97
Synodics and planetary movement are much better, imho as well. Especially heliocentric. My opinion of geocentric is that it creates observable patterns from a perspective that isn't quite reality... that being everything revolves around the earth. While it may appear that way in the dance across the sky, the heliocentric view is what is actually going on.

My heliocentric cycles are a lot more spot on over longer periods of time than anything I've seen with geocentric. Not to mention do you use sidereal or tropical? Too many subjective variables...
I know Cowan makes you sign an agreement when you buy his books, so you don't have to comment . I have not read them but I imagine it is something like this:

360/5 = 72 degrees.
72 x 2 = 144.
144 = 12x12

All important numbers. Gann used a square of 144 for solar cycles.

Anyway. Take an important top or bottom and work out the next possible top/bottom.

For mercury it takes 88 days to orbit the sun. So every top/bottom add 88/5=17.6 days for the next high/low.
For venus it would be 224/5=44.8 days
For mars 686/5=137.2
etc etc.
Small planets small cycles big planets, big cycles.
  • #3,157
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:21am Nov 14, 2011 8:21am
Quoting Sti
Well that one was short lived :-) ah well, can't have them all.
I was drawing it out yesterday and price is now on the 1x2 line.
I did not expect it to fall this fast. I did expect to touch the 1x2 line just not where it is now.
  • #3,158
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:23am Nov 14, 2011 8:23am
Quoting JR97
Why would I lie?
I can back that up.
Gann did keep horoscopes on natal chart of US.
Predicting wars and presidents.
Look in some of Ferrera's work.
  • #3,159
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:39am Nov 14, 2011 8:39am
Quoting Ilovepippin
I can back that up.
Gann did keep horoscopes on natal chart of US.
Predicting wars and presidents.
Look in some of Ferrera's work.
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #3,160
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:52am Nov 14, 2011 8:52am
Quoting Ilovepippin
I know Cowan makes you sign an agreement when you buy his books, so you don't have to comment . I have not read them but I imagine it is something like this:

360/5 = 72 degrees.
72 x 2 = 144.
144 = 12x12

All important numbers. Gann used a square of 144 for solar cycles.

Anyway. Take an important top or bottom and work out the next possible top/bottom.

For mercury it takes 88 days to orbit the sun. So every top/bottom add 88/5=17.6 days for the next high/low.
For venus it would be 224/5=44.8 days
For mars 686/5=137.2
etc etc.
[b]Small planets...

yup. i tend to get big cycles like satun juptier divide it down. they are most sentimental in long term economic activity and sometimes takes days or longer to form properly. its jsut early warning for me. and yes, those numbers are very important.
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