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  • #1,161
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:41am Nov 22, 2011 10:41am
Quoting deankenny21
what the hell are you doing dude

thats a long with rules all opposite

this is about the 4 or 5th time i seen you post a crazy trade

For everyones sake please DO NOT post any more trades or screenshots
Veterans knows some tricks.
  • #1,162
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:41am Nov 22, 2011 10:41am
Quoting timf1979
For what i understood yes even if you have a green bar at the crossing of the MA, if the second one turns red and the MACD as a red bar printed too on that second candle too, you can take the trade
good, i hope more people are getting this, if we start getting people like caillou telling us its the one that crosses the MA people will be trading the system the wrong way
  • #1,163
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:42am Nov 22, 2011 10:42am
Quoting deankenny21
here we go

Rules for Short trade:

1 If super candles are red we only look for short
2 Price need to CLOSE below the 89 EMA.
3 We need to see an down histobar clearly printed below the yellow line on MACD


starting from vertical red line, is where we get the down arrow and close below ma
RULE 2 met

next candle after that is now red still closed below ma
RULE 1 met

also on this next candle histo is CLEARLY printing low
RULE 3 met


4 pips, trigger short, and was...
The difference between me and you is that for me all 3 rules must be meet in the SAME signal candle and not for you.
Maybe Peter thinks like you, anyway I think my rules are much safer. If my rules are not like Peters, I wilk not post my results anymore for avoiding confution.....
  • #1,164
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:42am Nov 22, 2011 10:42am
Quoting x58
Veterans knows some tricks.
yes im sure they do, but not in here please,

KEEP THIS THREAD STRICTLY FOR FRATELLI

not for your veteran trades which has NOTHING to do with this system

im sure others feel the same way
  • #1,165
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:42am Nov 22, 2011 10:42am
Quoting Caillou
Sorry, I wanted to say that my signal candle was green (like you). For me the signal candle must be red for short and its green, so no trade, no loss

I am happy you not took a loss.

But can you please show in the PDF what made this signal not valid.

I know in hindsight it was great you did not took it.

Peter
  • #1,166
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:43am Nov 22, 2011 10:43am
Quoting Caillou
The difference between me and you is that for me all 3 rules must be meet in the SAME signal candle and not for you.
Maybe Peter thinks like you, anyway I think my rules are much safer. If my rules are not like Peters, I wilk not post my results anymore for avoiding confution.....
ok thank you, we would appreciate you do not post, as you will confuse other traders.

For you, you think its safe BUT this system has strictly been tested using rules provided and proves to be very profitable in the LONG RUN, just because u get a loser u modify things, thats when u start to lose the edge in the system.

Thanks for understanding and please do not post
  • #1,167
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:49am Nov 22, 2011 10:49am
Quoting x58
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I have no problems with the way you trade this strategy.

But can I ask you a favor if you want post setups here. That only show setups that follow all rules.

Ohterwise I think this thread will go ballistic, with tons off frustrated members
who cant figure out how to trade this.

Peter
  • #1,168
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:51am Nov 22, 2011 10:51am
Quoting fratelli
Been away doing famyly stuff.
I see we got some bad setups.

That will happen and it will happen again.

I see 2 short in EURUSD that loose.
And AUDUSD 1 short also looser.
and EURJPY also gave a slap in US session

But I also see we had some winners in London session.

So lets hope for better moves tomorrow.

Peter
Thanks Fratelli and Dean for all of your efforts. There were losses but still a positive day. Here are my trades.......
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  • #1,169
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:53am Nov 22, 2011 10:53am
Quoting fratelli
I have no problems with the way you trade this strategy.

But can I ask you a favor if you want post setups here. That only show setups that follow all rules.

Ohterwise I think this thread will go ballistic, with tons off frustrated members
who cant figure out how to trade this.

Peter

Absolutely, that's when threads turn into dustbins.
  • #1,170
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:55am Nov 22, 2011 10:55am
Quoting deankenny21
yes im sure they do, but not in here please,

KEEP THIS THREAD STRICTLY FOR FRATELLI

not for your veteran trades which has NOTHING to do with this system

im sure others feel the same way
NB!
1. Be nice with other trades
2. Respect for older people
3. Have Manners
  • #1,171
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:55am Nov 22, 2011 10:55am
Quoting deankenny21
ok thank you, we would appreciate you do not post, as you will confuse other traders.

For you, you think its safe BUT this system has strictly been tested using rules provided and proves to be very profitable in the LONG RUN, just because u get a loser u modify things, thats when u start to lose the edge in the system.

Thanks for understanding and please do not post
This is my last post so be quiet, and I have not changed my rules now because of that loss, I have been trading in the"wrong way" since the beginning, that s why I have asked the same question lots of times.

Peter you are a great man, thank you and Dean, only Peter can tell me to not post, not you, this is not your thread, remember. Anyway, relax, be happy, I m out.
Bye
  • #1,172
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:55am Nov 22, 2011 10:55am
this thread is the current HOTTEST system on FF, with over 80-100 on average constantly looking at it

so we must expect alot of the constantly losing traders, who come and go at a sign of 1 loss

so more chance of some really dumb people posting charts totally out of whack with the rules

i must understand this, for the sheer popularity of the thread we must go through all this,

But along the way we will pick up the good people too
  • #1,173
  • Nov 22, 2011 10:57am Nov 22, 2011 10:57am
Quoting Caillou
This is my last post so be quiet, and I have not changed my rules now because of that loss, I have been trading in the"wrong way" since the beginning, that s why I have asked the same question lots of times.

Peter you are a great man, thank you and Dean, only Peter can tell me to not post, not you, this is not your thread, remember. Anyway, relax, be happy, I m out.
Bye
Peter has already said not to post, im just agreeing with him

he told x58 also not to post

just to clarify what peter said, do not post if it has not met with rules in pdf and not related to fratelli, many thanks for understanding

Dean

we must clean the thread keep it fresh and clean of rule braking trades and posts especially when you know it doesnt fit the rules, if its a newbie to the thread of course cut them some slack, but you clearly understood the rules, only yourself is to blame.
  • #1,174
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:00am Nov 22, 2011 11:00am
Quoting x58
NB!
1. Be nice with other trades
2. Respect for older people
3. Have Manners
thats no problem IF you respect the thread and PETERS RULES

if not, then like peter said, simply DO NOT POST
  • #1,175
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:09am Nov 22, 2011 11:09am
Quoting deankenny21
thats no problem IF you respect the thread and PETERS RULES

if not, then like peter said, simply DO NOT POST
If you want fight, go Army and fight for you country like man.
  • #1,176
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:15am Nov 22, 2011 11:15am
Quoting x58
If you want fight, go Army and fight for you country like man.
Dont be childish just respect peter and only post fratelli setups.

Childish comments like that just are not welcome
  • #1,177
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:23am Nov 22, 2011 11:23am
Quoting deankenny21
yes im sure they do, but not in here please,

KEEP THIS THREAD STRICTLY FOR FRATELLI

not for your veteran trades which has NOTHING to do with this system

im sure others feel the same way
I agree
  • #1,178
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:28am Nov 22, 2011 11:28am
Dean, you really do need to wind your neck in abit mate. On Invictus thread you were constantly asking questions about the same subjects time after time and getting really agitated and annoyed when losses were
being taken by you, so much so that you left the thread in a big huff and threw your toys out of the pram. Now you are on Fratelli thread acting like
God and the best thing since sliced bread, jumping on anybody who even dares to disagree with you in their attempt to get clarity to the rules. You are beginning to sound like a schoolyard bully, unlike peter who trys to answer questions about rule clarity with patience and humility. Maybe if you cannot do the same it should be you leaving this thread and not the people trying to understand the rules of this MECHANICAL! SYSTEM.
You have a nice day now!
Kind Regards
Geoffrey
  • #1,179
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:34am Nov 22, 2011 11:34am
Quoting GEOFFREY62
Dean, you really do need to wind your neck in abit mate. On Invictus thread you were constantly asking questions about the same subjects time after time and getting really agitated and annoyed when losses were
being taken by you, so much so that you left the thread in a big huff and threw your toys out of the pram. Now you are on Fratelli thread acting like
God and the best thing since sliced bread, jumping on anybody who even dares to disagree with you in their attempt to get clarity to the rules. You are beginning to sound like a schoolyard...
unlike udine i post my losses, i posted todays big loss on fratelli i am transparent and honest

i didnt like they way udine is leading lamb to slaughter, with constant excuses and rule changes when someone posts a loser. That is why i threw my toys out, unlike Peter who is honest and doesnt make excuses for the losses today. Im not the only one who thinks this BUT im the only one HONEST enough to speak out, i saw one person recently posted his thoughts at invictus, about the rule changing to fit hindsight trades, that bad practice. Here we get losses and Peter goes away and constantly works hard to smooth things out and helps his traders, and does not make a new rule about lunch trading one day and next its ok to lunch trade.
it speaks for itself, like i said not just me, look at the star lowering on invictus along with the constant drop in people viewing the thread, ppl are too scared to speak out unlike me, but they dont need to speak out, the actions of the rating and SUDDEN drop in popularity is enough for people to see. Im trading fratelli sucessfully and i do not get fed bull crap when i have a loser, like at invictus, this is why it has died, people had enough of it.
But i will speak out and will continue to do so, i am not worried to speak my true opinion, as dany says above he agrees as im sure many more will.

( i also shouldnt even need to explain myself to someone wih 83 posts and no vouches! )
  • #1,180
  • Nov 22, 2011 11:40am Nov 22, 2011 11:40am
Ok, guys, hold on a bit with requests for the EA, as I need to modify the triggers again.

So, in the light of the discussions here, the EA DOESN'T TRADE trades like the ones we are talking about. Was my fault, probably, but I understood that TRIGGER can be only if the conditions are met into the same candle(all conditions).
So, leave me some time to modify the triggers, you can PM me, but I'm gonna send the EA to you when it uses the correct triggers, if it will be possible.If not, no EA :-)

Have fun!
I don't say
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