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  • #961
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:08am Nov 22, 2011 6:08am
Quoting Danyjoe
no no i want follow you...
i'm reading all.. I just do not understand English well

what is not much correct in that entry?

your entry is ok.

Its just that with version1.2 I dont recommend trading GBPUSD
until PA fits better with this strategy

Peter
  • #962
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:12am Nov 22, 2011 6:12am
Quoting timf1979
yes per last signal
Hi Dean,

Could you please give me some suggestions on post #948

Than you.
  • #963
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:12am Nov 22, 2011 6:12am
Quoting netwatchpips
Hi Peter/Dean,

Please refer my below chart for AUD/USD. The short trade Signal candle is different to your screen. I got the White Down Arrow one bar before on comparison with yours. Is this due to Broker?

Any suggeation will be much appreciated.



Have a great trading day,
Netwatchpips
i have the arrow in the same place, so no problems there
  • #964
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:14am Nov 22, 2011 6:14am
Quoting Nizdraw
I'm going to back out of this thread now but will continue to test and watch everyones progress as a lurker

Its going the same way that "trading made simple" and all the others did, few key members getting over defensive and clinging on to the new holy grail, bashing anyone who steps up to the plate with a question or wants to probe a certain aspect of the method........the sad thing is this does look like something with alot of potential

Few of us just asking simple questions for simple rules in areas that are grey and due to different factors...
I am sorry to see you leave.

I hope I have treated you as Adult.
If you feel I have not pardon me and I want say sorry.

I have heart about some members problem with that MACD.
I will see if I can do something about it, that can help

whish you many green pips and good luck.

Peter
  • #965
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:14am Nov 22, 2011 6:14am
Quoting deankenny21
thanks ohammond, if people took time to read question like this wodulnt cause so much hassle.
The candle only repaints by 1 !
over the long haul, this wont affect the overall performance very much
but dont forget peter still goes into his lab finetuning all the time

im forward testing and have excellent results, on live account, not a test can be better.

Like you said if YOU see it print etc, just take the trade, the ones that are clearer over the long run will outweigh its simple.

i made a mistake today with audusd but luckily with the...
I'm +22 so far because I missed the eu that hit tp, and I have a long AU in now, so if it hits the sl I am still up by 2 pips
  • #966
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:15am Nov 22, 2011 6:15am
Quoting fratelli
I am sorry to see you leave.

I hope I have treated you as Adult.
If you feel I have not pardon me and I want say sorry.

I have heart about some members problem with that MACD.
I will see if I can do something about it, that can help

whish you many green pips and good luck.

Peter
See guys, look at the kind of person Peter is, he will be going back in his lab now to make things better, we all got to remember Peter is constantly testing and modifying and making it better, and for that i owe him
  • #967
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:17am Nov 22, 2011 6:17am
Quoting ohammond
I'm +22 so far because I missed the eu that hit tp, and I have a long AU in now, so if it hits the sl I am still up by 2 pips
Stop loss at -20. but u should minimum have stop at BE +1 by now

its moved like 16 pips from the 4 pip buffer ?
  • #968
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:20am Nov 22, 2011 6:20am
Quoting Nizdraw
I stand corrected, but regardless, what's our definition of "Clearly"

0.000100?
0.000050?

Mechanical system needs mechanical rules especially since we are all forward testing it together, the more grey areas we have the more it gets like the "other" thread.
Clearly - mean if you with your eye can see below-or above yellow line candel, not on Yellow line! That how I understood it.
  • #969
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:21am Nov 22, 2011 6:21am
Quoting x58
Clearly - mean if you with your eye can see below-or above yellow line candel, not on Yellow line! That how I understood it.
Excellent, and thats how its written, how its described and how it should be traded, quite simple really
  • #970
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:22am Nov 22, 2011 6:22am
Quoting deankenny21
Stop loss at -20. but u should minimum have stop at BE +1 by now

its moved like 16 pips from the 4 pip buffer ?
She enter on second candle like me .
My macd was 16 and not see it green and the second was 157 clearly green
  • #971
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:22am Nov 22, 2011 6:22am
Quoting deankenny21
Stop loss at -20. but u should minimum have stop at BE +1 by now

its moved like 16 pips from the 4 pip buffer ?
Not on mine, http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...63#post5155963 didn't see the very tiny green up bar on the histo until the next candle.
  • #972
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:24am Nov 22, 2011 6:24am
Quoting kolesar007
She enter on second candle like me .
My macd was 16 and not see it green and the second was 157 clearly green
this is why we should only take clear ones to avoid confusion. this means it changed it 2 candles green the second one is too late, yes u cant get in on first one because it repainted green, so do not take trade at all because from eyeballing its second cndle 1 too late
  • #973
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:26am Nov 22, 2011 6:26am
Quoting deankenny21
this is why we should only take clear ones to avoid confusion. this means it changed it 2 candles green the second one is too late, yes u cant get in on first one because it repainted green, so do not take trade at all because from eyeballing its second cndle 1 too late
Not the candle, the histo.
  • #974
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:26am Nov 22, 2011 6:26am
Quoting Nizdraw
I'm going to back out of this thread now but will continue to test and watch everyones progress as a lurker

Its going the same way that "trading made simple" and all the others did, few key members getting over defensive and clinging on to the new holy grail, bashing anyone who steps up to the plate with a question or wants to probe a certain aspect of the method........the sad thing is this does look like something with alot of potential

Few of us just asking simple questions for simple rules in areas that are grey and due to different...
I think that if so many people are still left with questions and doubts is only normal, telling them to go and read the pdf on the first page is not very helpfull simply because the pdf for some might be clear, for some other ones including myself still leaves plenty of possible trading situation unanswered.
Clear example was yesterday afternoon EU when I asked if it was a clear entry and some member said it was not while the good Fratelli said it was...

So I think there is still some confusion here and I would suggest enhancing the pdf a bit more to make clearer for everyone.
  • #975
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:26am Nov 22, 2011 6:26am
If you all go back and read page number 1

You can see that my intension was to find some people who would help me forward test this strategy.

Some members here on FF stepped up and told me it was a wrong way to do things.

If I want someone to test I chould put all up here so those who want could test it.
I did so.

After first week we did some changing, because results and ideas from members told us to.

And I still feel we are in the testing and making it better if possible.

But I need to see where the problem is before I can do anything about it.

And you also know how I like things. I cant just change anything with out testing, bear with me it takes time, and I also need to trade and take care famyli stuff and work.

Peter
  • #976
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:27am Nov 22, 2011 6:27am
Quoting ohammond
Not the candle, the histo.
ah yes i see now my mistake, in that case, lets hope it get to +10 at least for you guys.
  • #977
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:29am Nov 22, 2011 6:29am
Quoting deankenny21
ah yes i see now my mistake, in that case, lets hope it get to +10 at least for you guys.
I'm not complaining, its the same thing that kept me out of the losing AU short, so c'est la vie.
  • #978
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:30am Nov 22, 2011 6:30am
Quoting mazingaz
I think that if so many people are still left with questions and doubts is only normal, telling them to go and read the pdf on the first page is not very helpfull simply because the pdf for some might be clear, for some other ones including myself still leaves plenty of possible trading situation unanswered.
Clear example was yesterday afternoon EU when I asked if it was a clear entry and some member said it was not while the good Fratelli said it was...

So I think there is still some confusion here and I would suggest enhancing the pdf a bit more...
thanks for the input, Peter just posted above, like he said its still being improved down the line to make things better and clearer.
I got short temper im first to admit

If u check my history with mechanical systems u will see i fail misreably while others in the same thread seem to be winning all the time, so for someone as dumb as me to be winning with this is really saying something

many thanks
Dean
  • #979
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:36am Nov 22, 2011 6:36am
break even +1 audusd
  • #980
  • Nov 22, 2011 6:37am Nov 22, 2011 6:37am
Quoting deankenny21
Excellent, and thats how its written, how its described and how it should be traded, quite simple really

Dean, in terms of that AUDUSD trade - you saw the MACD print clearly below, I saw it print clearly below, we both posted pictures to prove it and now you aren't going to include that failed trade in the results. In my humble opinion I think that is a mistake and brings things down to the level of the "other" thread which I know you slated for doing such things.

No offence intended. Just would like to see the results kept clean and honest.
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