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Quoting Nizdraw
I stand corrected, but regardless, what's our definition of "Clearly"

0.000100?
0.000050?

Mechanical system needs mechanical rules especially since we are all forward testing it together, the more grey areas we have the more it gets like the "other" thread.
the yellow line filters only 5 pipets on both sides.....

why is it so hard to answer a simply question?

maybe my eye site ain`t as good as you`rs, so i need to relly on numbers
Quoting deankenny21
right and wrong

right because the rules are met
wrong because version 1.2 no longer trades this pair
thanks!
Quoting deankenny21
how many ppl here trade on a 30" screen??

please mickeymouse dont act dumb, im sure your not

go get a averagely sized monitor

Ahh just ignore him mate, he's just a cartoon.
Quoting ukcool
Ahh just ignore him mate, he's just a cartoon.
LOL
Quoting fratelli
it seems correct that you in GU.

But I think you need read something on this thread.

Or you have desided to do it your way, and that is ok as well.

Peter
no no i want follow you...
i'm reading all.. I just do not understand English well

what is not much correct in that entry?
Quoting fratelli
did you see red trendcandles in EU threw this long trade.

I had green candles threw whole trade.?

Peter
yes, my mistake, i was playing with a different setting..
Hi Peter/Dean,

Please refer my below chart for AUD/USD. The short trade Signal candle is different to your screen. I got the White Down Arrow one bar before on comparison with yours. Is this due to Broker?

Any suggeation will be much appreciated.



Have a great trading day,
Netwatchpips
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In on the AU.
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Quoting MickyMouse
you try watching u`re charts on a 30 inch screen...

than talk about clear bellow!!!

i see even a value of 0.000011 clearly bellow
I understand and only thing I can come up with is to make yellow line a bit thicker.

try to play with going back and see what the line needs to be on your screen. to the trades

I trade from a 23" screen, so when I build this system 2 in thickness seems to be the best for my setup.

Hope it helps

Peter
Quoting kgblock
There I entered p4L periodCon
Having found that offline 10M chart moves only when I M5 are put online, not M1.
my last post on this ....

apparentlly everybody here is freenzy and all ... sarcastic and so on ... yesterday wanted to help creating a simpler indy to incorporate everithing ...was taken with ignorance and laughs... , today i ask the simplest of questions and i get the same ignorance ... i don`t know if u people realize it but according to the last 30 posts, some people are long, others are short, others never could have went short, others never could have went long .... maybe for the sarcastic ones this does`nt matter , but for me it does matter and it does make a difference... unfortunatelly this thread is becoming more sarcastic than helpfull ...

Thank you fratelli for the system , and good luck with it .
Quoting mazingaz
yes, my mistake, i was playing with a different setting..

Great I was just about to be very frustrated.

Peter
Quoting MickyMouse
my last post on this ....

apparentlly everybody here is freenzy and all ... sarcastic and so on ... yesterday wanted to help creating a simpler indy to incorporate everithing ...was taken with ignorance and laughs... , today i ask the simplest of questions and i get the same ignorance ... i don`t know if u people realize it but according to the last 30 posts, some people are long, others are short, others never could have went short, others never could have went long .... maybe for the sarcastic ones this does`nt matter , but for me it does...
This is where you fail to realise a mechanical system, yes will be trades like this, but the pure weight of strength of losers to winners, in the longrun will outweigh the situation. If your going to get so petty on one single trade then please close the door behind you, even with the mistake im still up over 23 pips today. and im trading strictly to the rules, if you cant and must keep modiyfing zooming in, using a satelitte 30000" monitor then please we dont need the comments confusing other traders trying to trade by the rules.

Good luck
cya
Dean
Quoting ohammond
In on the AU.
i'm also in on this one
The red cross on my chart was my exact entry via a pending order. MPTM set the TP, SL and controlled BE. No time to set the -25 to -10 stop manually, the price moved too fast. We do need to check our trade management EAs are doing their job and manually check for other exit rules, such as super candles changing colors, so we don't hit our full stop, when the trade goes against us.

60 pips for the day. I'm happy with 20, so 40 in the pip bank, saved for a rainy day. Just another lesson in MM for myself and others.

Thanks Peter, Dean, etc. Lets keep the "legs" in this system running. Circumstances do change...
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I'm going to back out of this thread now but will continue to test and watch everyones progress as a lurker

Its going the same way that "trading made simple" and all the others did, few key members getting over defensive and clinging on to the new holy grail, bashing anyone who steps up to the plate with a question or wants to probe a certain aspect of the method........the sad thing is this does look like something with alot of potential

Few of us just asking simple questions for simple rules in areas that are grey and due to different factors can be interpreted differently causing confusion

I'm 70% sure had the AUDUSD trade been a winner the MACD values of 0.00018 or whatever would be accepted. But instead we are getting told not to be silly and that its needs to be "Printed" "Clear" whats the definintion then? if I can see it in the 6x6inch box then its clear and if its there then its must be printed? Change your wording or set a definition if you want to filter it rather then using abstract word

you NEED solid cast IRON rules if you want something that is not subjective.

Areas need working on IMO

1.Re-paining of super bars and hindsight/backtesting results being to large due to it
2.Histogram value definition for the close calls around the yellow line
3. a CLEAR definition when to close a pending order/dismiss a signal
4. Dean is using a Trailing stop at +10pips moving it a pip at a time, this is alot different then moving to BE+1 at +15pips


and you know the sad thing the close calls in the grey areas in any probablity game over the long run really really don't effect your margin that much

would of just been nice to be treated like an Adult when presenting a few simple questions

anyway peter great job so far and I hope everyone keeps up the good work, I will certainly carry on forward testing this and have a trade explorer open in my profile for all to see...........and I WONT be discounting trades I've taken if I make mistakes on close calls

Thanks again
Quoting Nizdraw
I'm going to back out of this thread now but will continue to test and watch everyones progress as a lurker

Its going the same way that "trading made simple" and all the others did, few key members getting over defensive and clinging on to the new holy grail, bashing anyone who steps up to the plate with a question or wants to probe a certain aspect of the method........the sad thing is this does look like something with alot of potential

Few of us just asking simple questions for simple rules in areas that are grey and due to different factors...
please read PDF rules clearly state a print, it mentions nothing of the values 0.00019 or whatever, the questions mentioning this are not needed and cause confusion, stick to PDF using visuals only. thank you

Dean
Quoting yamez
The red cross on my chart was my exact entry via a pending order. MPTM set the TP, SL and controlled BE. No time to set the -25 to -10 stop manually, the price moved too fast. We do need to check our trade management EAs are doing their job and manually check for other exit rules, such as super candles changing colors, so we don't hit our full stop, when the trade goes against us.

60 pips for the day. I'm happy with 20, so 40 in the pip bank, saved for a rainy day. Just another lesson in MM for myself and others.

Thanks Peter, Dean, etc. Lets...
no problem Yamez, excellent performance, nice to see people just trading what they see without ripping the candles apart or zooming in 30,000 times.

Good well done
Dean
Quoting Nizdraw
I'm going to back out of this thread now but will continue to test and watch everyones progress as a lurker

Its going the same way that "trading made simple" and all the others did, few key members getting over defensive and clinging on to the new holy grail, bashing anyone who steps up to the plate with a question or wants to probe a certain aspect of the method........the sad thing is this does look like something with alot of potential

Few of us just asking simple questions for simple rules in areas that are grey and due to different factors...
I don't think its as bad as what you think. If you think it printed below then take the trade, if you don't see it, then don't take the trade, its up to each and every one of us to trade what we see on our charts. Its not quite been a few simple questions, most of the questions have been answered already many times and still people are asking the same ones.

Yes, you're right though, the backtesting results are not that reliable if the candles have just turned red to green or vice versa, because it repaints sometimes another candle back, a better way of visually backtesting is with the supertrend indicator itself, until a candle closes above or below its line it wouldn't have turned that colour yet.
Quoting ohammond
I don't think its as bad as what you think. If you think it printed below then take the trade, if you don't see it, then don't take the trade, its up to each and every one of us to trade what we see on our charts. Its not quite been a few simple questions, most of the questions have been answered already many times and still people are asking the same ones.

Yes, you're right though, the backtesting results are not that reliable if the candles have just turned red to green or vice versa, because it repaints sometimes another candle back, a better...
thanks ohammond, if people took time to read question like this wodulnt cause so much hassle.
The candle only repaints by 1 !
over the long haul, this wont affect the overall performance very much
but dont forget peter still goes into his lab finetuning all the time

im forward testing and have excellent results, on live account, not a test can be better.

Like you said if YOU see it print etc, just take the trade, the ones that are clearer over the long run will outweigh its simple.

i made a mistake today with audusd but luckily with the good R:R and overall winners to losers im still well up
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