System Test: Invictus V Fratelli

there was a clear winner on Fratelli on AUD USD for 20 pips

but we was withn 20 min of usd news, so i didnt take it, so as i said in post 1 to keep it fair the result will not be logged down in the total results, but still good trade and well done for all those that took it

wow that was quick was just about to tell u guys i entered buy on eur jpy on fratelli

and by the time i went to take screen shot it had hit TP

so another WINNER for fratelli

buy eurjpy +20 pips

that brings todays new totals to

Invictus

EU +3.8
GU +10
EU +2.3
TOTAL = +16.1


Fratelli

EJ +20
EU +2.8
AU +20
EU +1.9
EJ +20
TOTAL = +64.7

that brings todays new totals to

Invictus

EU +3.8
GU +10
EU +2.3
TOTAL = +16.1


Fratelli

EJ +20
EU +2.8
AU +20
EU +1.9
EJ +20
TOTAL = +64.7

ok todays trading day is nearly over, dont think wil get any more valid signals now, so will post all time so far totals, then my updated summary of performance so far

Ok, so its 4:45pm here in England, end of trading day as stated in rules on post 1, so update of todays results, then total results since test beginning, and my overview so far:

todays totals
Invictus

EU +3.8
GU +10
EU +2.3
TOTAL = +16.1


Fratelli

EJ +20
EU +2.8
AU +20
EU +1.9
EJ +20
TOTAL = +64.7



Totals since start of test

Invictus = 5 winners 2 loser = -3.9pips
Fratelli = 14 Winners 2 loser = +169.4pips


Well the results are quite clearly stating the obvious, but Fratelli has pulled away with a staggering start. As we can see Invictus had 3 winners out of 3 today and has total of 5 winners to 2 losers and is still in the negative, with that kind of RR you are always going to be chasing your own tail.
Fratellis simple yet strict rules kept it in the game today has the market ranged most of the afternoon, but always seems to manage to catch the big move at some point. Fratelli is fast becoming my favourite and i thank Peter for all his hard work.
Phew im tired today, i have the night off work, parents are coming to visit, and Tottenham Vs Aston Villa is on at 8pm, so im going to enjoy my evening very much, thank you ever so much for reading. Lets hope for more of the same tomorrow

Regards
Dean

Dean,

Get some rest and enjoy the match.

I made some pips today - nice. Thanks for sharing.

DrJack

Hello Dean, nice comperative thread!

I also start to use Fratelli tomorow parallel with Invictus.
I will see if I can handle 7 pairs on Invictus or I will reduce some pairs.
I have some problem with VisualOrderEditor, because I have it on two same pairs but thats my problem .

I think that Fratelli might be more profitable then Invictus (20 vs 10 TP) because of early enter on close price and not H/L and thats major advantage where you get more room for trade. But with this you might get some false breakout but will see

Dean, did you see my question in #186? It looked like you took a short re-entry when the bars were green, and I thought all the original rules (including red bar) had to be satisfied for a re-entry...

Hi Dean

I think you are not comparing apples with apples, invictus and fritelli rules are written for different needs. Udine wants to get in and out quickly, so the rules suit him, he has written it for himself after all. ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 20 PIPS ARE LOST BEFORE CLOSING A BAD TRADE. Also a good trade does not have to be closed at 10pips profit, so I think a direct comparison is not really valid, but your effort is very much appreciated.

I think one can run them together and use the alerts to get into profitable trades and manage both systems to good profitability.

To declare invictus inferior is unfair imo.

its simple both has rules to be met, when rules meet take trade, record results. Thats it mechanical, so they can be compared.

yes, look at where i entered, vertical red line, down arrow was indication to start looking for short, waited for candle to go red, and entered accordingly

Aha, OK. So "down white arrow" sets up the signal, but it doesn't activate until the bar turns red. And the bar doesn't have to be red on the arrow bar, but it can turn red later. Thanks!

yes as long as the last arrow is in the direction u r going to trade then yes all rules are met, just wait for the 4 pips buffer and go go go

So that the results dont get lost i will also update results on post number 1 of the thread

Great idea! And it would really help me (and probably others) if you could identify the time of the trade, so we can compare our results against yours.

Thanks Dean!

So Dean- are you not using the TP/SL as the Fratelli system calls for and using your 10 pip trail at 10 pips profit?

EDIT: nevermind, saw that you answered this somewhere else.

morning traders looks like i got up just in time

2 trade already on fratelli, both safely with STOP at BE, eu and au buy will update accordingly

Fratelli EU BUY WINNER!!

+20 pips

only been up for 10 mins, nice way to start

Fratelli BUY AU WInner!!!

+3.9 pips

been up not long 2 trades 2 winnners, niice