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  • #21
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:19am Nov 18, 2011 4:19am
Quoting deankenny21
yea i had quite a few requests as a lot of people work and dont have the time to forward test 1 method let alone 2!, i live in UK and work nights, do not start till 7PM so i have all the time in the world
Hi Dean , same here mate, i live in UK and work evenings purely so that i can concentrate on forex during day. im looking at both fratelli and udine systems both ok, but still testing.

i'll skype u about a another system when i have a moment right now too much going.

speak later

sami
  • #22
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:20am Nov 18, 2011 4:20am
Quoting 236dave
I too was following Invictus, but was having doubts.
I also live in the uk, but have to work during most of London trading times.
Its really helpful of you to forward test, both systems and I will watch with interest.
Keep up the good work, its much appreciated!
BTW - I will have to catch up with the Fratelli thread.
236dave
thanks for the interest, yea catch up with it while its faiirly new, as the genius behind it is still finetuning it, over the weekend hes going into his research lab and throwing away the key till monday morning in sight of pure research and tuning.
Im glad a few people are speaking up thier real thoughts, as i understand you dont want to do it in the methods thread because of obvious reasons, but all here is equal and open to all comments and critisism
  • #23
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:31am Nov 18, 2011 4:31am
Quoting sami29uk
Hi Dean , same here mate, i live in UK and work evenings purely so that i can concentrate on forex during day. im looking at both fratelli and udine systems both ok, but still testing.

i'll skype u about a another system when i have a moment right now too much going.

speak later

sami
Nice to have another Brit working the graveyard shift, nice to see you hear, and yes grab me on skype whenever, if i not at my comp, i have it logged in on my phone
  • #24
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:46am Nov 18, 2011 4:46am
gone a bit quiet here for both systems.

Will wait patiently and wait for the setups to happen.
  • #25
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:47am Nov 18, 2011 4:47am
Dean - hi m8. Just a comment - every Sidus indi I've seen up to now repaints like hell. May just need a simple adjustment if you have the code as an awful lot of indi's show before the candle has closed. No experience of the one used here as I don't follow this system although if you are involved it must be worth a look.
  • #26
  • Nov 18, 2011 4:49am Nov 18, 2011 4:49am
Quoting handy148
Dean - hi m8. Just a comment - every Sidus indi I've seen up to now repaints like hell. May just need a simple adjustment if you have the code as an awful lot of indi's show before the candle has closed. No experience of the one used here as I don't follow this system although if you are involved it must be worth a look.
thanks Handy for posting here. Im forward testing both systems, all results you see are from forward live trading.
I havent noticed it repaint, but if it does and its producing the pips it is, whos to moan about it repaint the whole of london if it wants, as long as it keeps producing these consistent results lol.

Anyway nice to see you here, and will update every signal and result as they come strictly to each methods own rules.
  • #27
  • Nov 18, 2011 5:50am Nov 18, 2011 5:50am
what a quick one

Fratelli buy eurusd
20 pips off the one candle excellent


will update totals in a sec

and this was also while London were having thier sandwiches
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  • #28
  • Nov 18, 2011 5:52am Nov 18, 2011 5:52am
so update of toays totals after the current eu winner on Fratelli

Invictus = 2 winners 1 loser = breakeven 0 pips

Fratelli = 6 trades 6 winners = +103.2pips


also got a GU running on Fratelli and is past the BE point, will update accordingly
  • #29
  • Nov 18, 2011 5:57am Nov 18, 2011 5:57am
i just noticed in this invictus thread after yesterday, we were told lunch in london at this time

but i just checked the thread and bamn rules broken ATR is red
and "NO ARROWS" and they took trades and they reported them as winners.

But yesterday we had ATR GREEN!!!! at this time with an arrow the trade lost, and was told coz of lunch and no one took it :S

but today is ok, why???????

today its ok beause the trades were winners, so lunch doesnt matter, this what i like about Fratelli just trade london open to close forget about sandwiches and crisps trade what you see according to rules!
  • #30
  • Nov 18, 2011 5:59am Nov 18, 2011 5:59am
Quoting deankenny21
i just noticed in this invictus thread after yesterday, we were told lunch in london at this time

but i just checked the thread and bamn rules broken ATR is red
and "NO ARROWS" and they took trades and they reported them as winners.

But yesterday we had ATR GREEN!!!! at this time with an arrow the trade lost, and was told coz of lunch and no one took it :S

but today is ok, why???????

today its ok beause the trades were winners, so lunch doesnt matter, this what i like about Fratelli just trade london open to close forget about sandwiches and...
GU winner for +15 pips

brings todays totals, WHEN TRADING BY THE SYTEM RULES to

Invictus = 2 winners 1 loser = breakeven 0 pips

Fratelli = 7 trades 7 winners = +118.2pips
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  • #31
  • Nov 18, 2011 6:13am Nov 18, 2011 6:13am
Awesome work Dean, by showing results which our truthful and objective.
  • #32
  • Nov 18, 2011 6:16am Nov 18, 2011 6:16am
Quoting ukcool
Awesome work Dean, by showing results which our truthful and objective.
No problem like i said, Rules were put in place on each method for a reason, so im trading by the rules.

Im one of few that post trades either way, win or loss
check my supply and demand thread out for my honesty, 33 winners in a row all called "BEFORE THE EVENT" with charts marked out sometimes an hour before the entry

everything i post is with true honesty and to all rules, again thanks for posting good to see you here.
  • #33
  • Nov 18, 2011 6:37am Nov 18, 2011 6:37am
Quoting tex
hello dean,

nice work so far. Where can i get more informations about the fratelli system?

thanks
tex
No problem Tex your welcome, everything here is transparent, a neutral so to say, for all traders to see

for the Fratelli method it is here

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=325942
  • #34
  • Nov 18, 2011 6:56am Nov 18, 2011 6:56am
very quiet here, nothing line up on either system

Fratellis 118 pips today is nearly enough to buy a game ive wanted since its released, Modern Warfare 3, might have to treat myself to that now for the weekend
  • #35
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:00am Nov 18, 2011 7:00am
Quoting deankenny21
very quiet here, nothing line up on either system

Fratellis 118 pips today is nearly enough to buy a game ive wanted since its released, Modern Warfare 3, might have to treat myself to that now for the weekend
Thanks for doing the test. I'm going to try Fratelli just on a 5 min chart see how it works out. Trades looked good today, but I was busy doing something else.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #36
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:02am Nov 18, 2011 7:02am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Thanks for doing the test. I'm going to try Fratelli just on a 5 min chart see how it works out. Trades looked good today, but I was busy doing something else.
no problem your welcome, i tried on a 15 min chart, but although i was a winner, i checked 10 min and there was alot more pips to be had

5 min could be crazy, but give it a go, Peter has done some super extensive testing using 10 mins, and i dont mean just a quick backtest, he really has worked incredibly hard tuning it to filter out as much as he can regarding bad trades. Anyway nice to see you here good luck Dean
  • #37
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:04am Nov 18, 2011 7:04am
Quoting deankenny21
no problem your welcome, i tried on a 15 min chart, but although i was a winner, i checked 10 min and there was alot more pips to be had

5 min could be crazy, but give it a go, Peter has done some super extensive testing using 10 mins, and i dont mean just a quick backtest, he really has worked incredibly hard tuning it to filter out as much as he can regarding bad trades. Anyway nice to see you here good luck Dean
Well I'll see what happens, maybe I should just fall in line and use a 10 min chart

My feeling on Invictus is that I can trade breakouts on my own. I don't need 10 indicators telling me to do so. Some breakouts will win, some won't. Good for Udine if he can make it work for him and feels it useful, but I'd rather just trade breakouts on a naked 5 min chart if I were to do so.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #38
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:06am Nov 18, 2011 7:06am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Well I'll see what happens, maybe I should just fall in line and use a 10 min chart

My feeling on Invictus is that I can trade breakouts on my own. I don't need 10 indicators telling me to do so. Some breakouts will win, some won't. Good for Udine if he can make it work for him and feels it useful, but I'd rather just trade breakouts on a naked 5 min chart if I were to do so.
thats up to you, the method looks good with invictus, but when the losers appeared with all rules met, i had a different excuse each time, like lunch time, or the queen made a cup of tea so the markets stopped until she finished the last sip

I have nothing against it, just following rules, 10 pips+ to next pivot that was all, and i will continue to do that in here, and post the results live.
Havent had a signal on invictus for a while on eu gu, no RM UP either so thats stopped any long trades there for a while.
  • #39
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:12am Nov 18, 2011 7:12am
Quoting deankenny21
thats up to you, the method looks good with invictus, but when the losers appeared with all rules met, i had a different excuse each time, like lunch time, or the queen made a cup of tea so the markets stopped until she finished the last sip

I have nothing against it, just following rules, 10 pips+ to next pivot that was all, and i will continue to do that in here, and post the results live.
Havent had a signal on invictus for a while on eu gu, no RM UP either so thats stopped any long trades there for a while.
Oh i have nothing against it... Again, I think certain styles work for certain operators. That type of style is operated differently by me, however.

I'm also trying out the SEFC supergold on a 13 pip renko chart. I loaded up a template for Fratelli, but never really looked at it. So I'm glad you brought my attention to it because it seems to be working very well for you.

I am going to try 10 mins - I need some Modern Warfare money too
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #40
  • Nov 18, 2011 7:14am Nov 18, 2011 7:14am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Oh i have nothing against it... Again, I think certain styles work for certain operators. That type of style is operated differently by me, however.

I'm also trying out the SEFC supergold on a 13 pip renko chart. I loaded up a template for Fratelli, but never really looked at it. So I'm glad you brought my attention to it because it seems to be working very well for you.

I am going to try 10 mins - I need some Modern Warfare money too
haha yea, modern warfare my way tonight thanks to Fratelli

Yeh, seems to be working with invictus in the thread, of course even if its hindsight. But if its truly working for someone then well done, you can come play Modern Warfare with me later, but if not please take results biased in a thread with a pinch of salt

regards, Dean
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