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  • #22,881
  • Nov 1, 2011 9:43pm Nov 1, 2011 9:43pm
help me please

i downloade the compressed file named v4 from the first post and then i extract it

then it give me a templates : i dont know withch one is the best ??

and give me a fonts file i dont know what to do with it ????


and an exe file when i double click on it an error massage appear and i think it contains the indicators ( i have windows 7 ) so is the file corrupt or the problem in my system??? and can any one give me the indicators of the version 4 ??


waiting you help
  • #22,882
  • Nov 1, 2011 11:49pm Nov 1, 2011 11:49pm
Quoting zelenko
help me please

i downloade the compressed file named v4 from the first post and then i extract it

then it give me a templates : i dont know withch one is the best ??

and give me a fonts file i dont know what to do with it ????


and an exe file when i double click on it an error massage appear and i think it contains the indicators ( i have windows 7 ) so is the file corrupt or the problem in my system??? and can any one give me the indicators of the version 4 ??


waiting you help
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OPPORTUNITY IS NOWHERE
  • #22,883
  • Nov 1, 2011 11:51pm Nov 1, 2011 11:51pm
Quoting jimparker65
I have been having trouble getting SLs and trailing SLs on to trades and have just installed Cavemanager 1.41. I have Stop_loss set to 15 but seem to be getting stopped out at 1.5. Should I make SL 150 and TP 300 (for 30 pips) and should a 25 pip trailing stop be entered as 250
Looks like a great plan to me; if 15 give you 1.5, then 150 gives you 15
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  • #22,884
  • Nov 5, 2011 12:38pm Nov 5, 2011 12:38pm
Would you mind to share your tamplate
Quoting MissPips
I like these guys

Main points are that 5m and 15 m trixes are crossed in the direction of the trade, at least one of them recently, 1m fast trix just changed color and the space between fast and slow is narrowing/trixes are flattening out near the zero line.
This is, in effect, catching the first retrace on the 1m chart after the 5m or 15 trix has just crossedas price turns back in that direction after a retrace. Currently I prefer to see how the higher tf trixes look and so I use the MTF trixes that you can see instead of the mtf...
  • #22,885
  • Nov 7, 2011 12:14am Nov 7, 2011 12:14am
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...89#post5046989
Quoting 4xtom
Would you mind to share your tamplate
  • #22,886
  • Nov 8, 2011 10:21am Nov 8, 2011 10:21am
I have been playing with THV version 4 and using it in conjunction with another template I developed. I am trying to do a back check with an external program in C#. I know how Trix is done (triple smoothed EMA's) but I don't see what triggers the colored arrows (Trix V1.0).

Using the Strategy Tester in MT4 is fine for a lot of things, but I pump price data to my SQL Server via a DLL from the History Center and then build custom C# applications for data analysis. This gives me much greater flexiblity. It also tends to run alot faster.

The one piece I don't have is the colored arrows in the Trix V1.0 indicator. They seem to be very useful as 'false alarm' filters. Can anyone tell me what the criteria is for triggering an arrow?

[ BTW if anyone wants to know how to build a C# DLL to catch data from MT4 (or send it back) send me an email ]
  • #22,887
  • Nov 8, 2011 2:00pm Nov 8, 2011 2:00pm
Quoting wizardjr
I have been playing with THV version 4 and using it in conjunction with another template I developed. I am trying to do a back check with an external program in C#. I know how Trix is done (triple smoothed EMA's) but I don't see what triggers the colored arrows (Trix V1.0).

Using the Strategy Tester in MT4 is fine for a lot of things, but I pump price data to my SQL Server via a DLL from the History Center and then build custom C# applications for data analysis. This gives me much greater flexiblity. It also tends to run alot faster.

The...
Divergence
  • #22,888
  • Nov 8, 2011 2:07pm Nov 8, 2011 2:07pm
Quoting Mihailo
Divergence
thanks for the reply, I thought that's what was being indicated but there seems to be a one bar lag; is that correct? That would be an okay thing if it was meant to stop hunting due to back and forth color changes (direction) of the Trix line. Perhaps I'm just over analyzing it.
  • #22,889
  • Nov 9, 2011 11:14pm Nov 9, 2011 11:14pm
can any one till me please

what is the ((last)) and the ((best)) version of the expert cavemanager ??

and is this version working on real acount ??? because i heared that it work on demo only

and is it for sale ??? and if so where can i buy it ??
  • #22,890
  • Nov 9, 2011 11:59pm Nov 9, 2011 11:59pm
Quoting zelenko
can any one till me please

what is the ((last)) and the ((best)) version of the expert cavemanager ??

and is this version working on real acount ??? because i heared that it work on demo only

and is it for sale ??? and if so where can i buy it ??
This is the version that I use and it seems to work quite well on a real account.

It may take you a while to find the settings you want to use.
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File Type: ex4 THV CaveManager v1.41.ex4   63 KB | 926 downloads
  • #22,891
  • Nov 12, 2011 12:58pm Nov 12, 2011 12:58pm
Mavricos which is you re setup for SAH?I only have 1 line.
  • #22,892
  • Nov 14, 2011 3:03am Nov 14, 2011 3:03am
Quoting Blaiserboy
This is the version that I use and it seems to work quite well on a real account.

It may take you a while to find the settings you want to use.

thank you
  • #22,893
  • Nov 14, 2011 8:00am Nov 14, 2011 8:00am
Good morning MissPips receive a cordial greeting.

MissPips, what is the methodology that you use to operate with the clean rainbow strategy?

Thanks in advance.
  • #22,894
  • Edited 3:58am Nov 15, 2011 3:41am | Edited 3:58am
I like to trade inside a 5m trix cross when both the rainbows are in the
direction of the 5m trix cross. I look for some pattern or patterns that
I recognize (like Head and Shoulders, Double Tops or Bottoms
Trendline break, S/R break and retest, lower highs and lower lows or vice versa)
to confirm that price action is following the trix and then
I buy dips or sell tops (when the 1m fast trix turns)

I also like for the 15 m trix to be crossed int he direction of
the trade, or at least to have both fast and slow just turned the
right color for the trade, and I like for at least one of them to
have crossed recently. I also like the 1 m trix to be flattening out near
zero, or at least not in o/b or o/s.

Like this, for example. (Reasons for trade in pic) I actually prefer the 15 trix cross to have a wider spread than this, but in this case since we are in a pretty strong downtrend, and since waiting for the 15 m trix to cross further would mean taking the trade too close to news and to S1 I took it as shown, based on how the rainbows and PA looked.

I don't like to see green in the rainbow or the 5m fast trix if I am taking a short trade or red if I am taking a long trade.

I also don't like to see a long flat edge to the rainbow where I'm taking the trade because that indicates stronger S/R that needs to be overcome.

I like to see the rainbow expanding, and the retraces forming nice orderly looking little arches of a few bars, where price stays below or sticks pretty close to the edge of the rainbow and then closes down below it again. (These are what a little profit taking, that has now resumed in the direction of the trend looks like)

I look for 10 pips on the first lot (stop loss 15 + spread) and trail the second.



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Result so far (I try to post these as soon as possible, but it takes me a good half an hour to take the pics, annotate them and write the explanations)
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Quoting Aitofx
Good morning MissPips receive a cordial greeting.

MissPips, what is the methodology that you use to operate with the clean rainbow strategy?

Thanks in advance.
  • #22,895
  • Nov 15, 2011 7:29am Nov 15, 2011 7:29am
Hello MissPips,

your post was very helpful, as always. Many thanks for your constantly help here at this thread! It's just great. You can be sure that even if you repeat things they are helpful over and over again.

I've made a few months break from forex over the last summer but now I go on learning.

What I would like to know is:

1. What kind of trigger do you use for you signals? Do you use the SAH and watch for TrixCross or something like that or do you sit at your computer all the time and check the screen over and over again? I found out, that this is one of the most difficult things for me. Waiting, checking screen, waiting, doing nothing and so on. I've tried different SAH settings like "M1 FT, M5 FT" or "M5 FT, M5 ST, M15 FT, M15 ST" or "M1 FT, M5 TrixCross, M15 FT" with mixed results. It would be great to know more about your behavior during the trading sessions.

2. "I also like the 1 m trix to be flattening out near zero, or at least not in o/b or o/s."

Does that mean you wait for the fast and the slow trix to go "before" zero in the direction of the trade or only the fast trix? Often when the M1 FT changes the color, I went in, the fasttrix changes the color again and goes much further in the wrong direction and I make a loss. Does the M1 ST has to be flattening out too for you to trade or is it enough to get a color change on M1 FT for your entry? I know this thing would not happen that often with more support from timeframes above but that leads me to question one: I should make it easier to be disziplined

3. How many trades do you have average for a day and how long is your average screen time? For example, if you trade 8 hours a day, how many trades do you take?

4. If you trail one half of your charge, what is your trailing stop? For the first charge, do you always wait for 10 pips or do you go out earlier from time to time? Do you have rules when to trail and when not or do you always use trailing stops?

5. What is your rule when the trade goes wrong? When do you got out? Maybe when the M1 FT turns the color again or maybe only with StopLoss or just by your feeling for the market? The losses are a big problem for me because most of the time they are too big and I wait too long to go out.

Many questions for one post..
And many thanks in advance!

Quoting MissPips
I like to trade inside a 5m trix cross when both the rainbows are in the
direction of the 5m trix cross. I look for some pattern or patterns that
I recognize (like Head and Shoulders, Double Tops or Bottoms
Trendline break, S/R break and retest, lower highs and lower lows or vice versa)
to confirm that price action is following the trix and then
I buy dips or sell tops (when the 1m fast trix turns)

I also like for the 15 m trix to be crossed int he direction of
the trade, or at least to have both fast and slow just turned the
right color for the...
  • #22,896
  • Edited 10:43am Nov 15, 2011 10:31am | Edited 10:43am
You're welcome

1. I use the SAH to alert me to when I have a 5 m trix cross and a 15m cross, and then if I get that alert I watch the screen and wait for a setup. I am more or less at the computer from a bit before Franky open to London close, but there are times when I am watching the screen and times when I'm not. I like to watch the opens, and see how price acts for sure. Then there are other times when I can see that price is going to go nowhere (or nowhere where I want to be trading anyway) for while and then I'll take a break for an hour or so. Learning how to wait for a good setup, and getting a feel for when one is going to materialize soon or not materialize for a while is definitely one of the skills you need to have

2) Re the 1m trix, the right look (usually) is when the fast has gone below zero (for a long) or above zero (for as short), and the slow trix is near zero and flattening out, and you can see the distance between then is narrowing. Also I prefer when this is the first trix dip after the 5m trix has crossed. This is a case of where you have to judge where you are in a trend, and how strong it is. In a strong trend or a good reversal you can get away with a couple of them, but if it's a counter trend that you are hoping will be a reversal, it's better to stick to the first dip inside the 5 m trix cross.

3). From Franky open to London close you will usually get 2-5 setups It varies though. Some days you barely get one, because what can happen is (for example) there is a downtrend, but the buyers on dips are buying enough to turn the 5m trix up, and then the two trixes can fail to agree for most of the day. (This happened yesterday for example. This in itself is usually a warning of a consolidation/reversal coming up) I am happy with one or two trades a day.

4) For the second lot I set it to b/e when I get out of the first and then I trail it manually after there's some dips/tops to put it behind. I usually have an idea where I think price might be going and I'll get out when it get's there if I'm not stopped out first.

5). My stop is 15 + spread. If it stops out it stops out. If PA is looking normal I will stay in a trade. I f it suddenly starts behaving erratically, and the trade has gone against me nearly to the stop and come back to then entry I will sometimes get out at b/e, because it means that the premise of this trade (which is to trade when everyone is in agreement, and just get in on the dips/tops caused by minor profit taking) is not working. Either some news has happened or I have failed to notice some higher tf pattern or SR. If you look at the screen enough, you can see the difference when PA looks like this and when it doesn't. I don't take every setup there is. I like the ones that where the trix 'looks right' and that are combined with some pattern, like I explained in the post above.



Quoting FXler
Hello MissPips,

your post was very helpful, as always. Many thanks for your constantly help here at this thread! It's just great. You can be sure that even if you repeat things they are helpful over and over again.

I've made a few months break from forex over the last summer but now I go on learning.

What I would like to know is:

1. What kind of trigger do you use for you signals? Do you use the SAH and watch for TrixCross or something like that or do you sit at your computer all the time and check the screen over and over again? I found...
  • #22,897
  • Nov 15, 2011 10:42am Nov 15, 2011 10:42am
These are worth watching for..... many pips on the one minute chart after seeing this
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  • #22,898
  • Nov 15, 2011 10:49am Nov 15, 2011 10:49am
This template tells a lot about what is happening.
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  • #22,899
  • Nov 15, 2011 5:17pm Nov 15, 2011 5:17pm
"quote" Re the 1m trix, the right look (usually) is when the fast has gone below zero (for a long) or above zero (for as short), and the slow trix is near zero and flattening out, and you can see the distance between then is narrowing

You mentioned this before, but im having a problem understanding, would you be able to show this when you get a chance.
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #22,900
  • Nov 15, 2011 11:24pm Nov 15, 2011 11:24pm
Hi all this is my first post as im a bit of a newbie to this forex game!!
Ive been playing around with the thv 4 with good results i was just wondering about the red and green Divergence arrows on the trix. Whats the correct way to use them? are they used for keeping me out of bad trades?

cheers
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