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  • #15,941
  • Oct 13, 2011 5:26pm Oct 13, 2011 5:26pm
For a long time I've been silent about all this nasty issue.

I think in your progress to become a successful and profitable trader you have to face diferent challenges. Some come from the markets themselves. Some come from the way you approach them. And some come from all the lies, scams and frauds you have to overcome.

There is nothing for free in life, nor in financial markets. You have to fight, and you have to go yard by yard to score the touchdown. And sometimes the only true help you'll find it's that little voice inside you. The one that tells you that the whole solution is not in a single thread, and it does not cost 200 bucks for a quarterly subscription. Unfortunately, we as human being, learn from our mistakes. Or may I say fortunately?

Thanks, FX Achilles, because you showed me what I MUST NOT DO TO BE PROFITABLE. Both in Forex and life. To lie is not the way.

In my country they say "one image says more than one thousand words". The evidence that this was not the whole solution is in the attached picture.

(Please, notice the trade: on the bottom left part of the screen it says "SELL" when it should be a "BUY" for the bullish runner. Nice Photoshop work. Poor attention).

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1278605710

From this post:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...07#post3860507
  • #15,942
  • Oct 14, 2011 3:06am Oct 14, 2011 3:06am
Quoting elizo
For a long time I've been silent about all this nasty issue.

I think in your progress to become a successful and profitable trader you have to face diferent challenges. Some come from the markets themselves. Some come from the way you approach them. And some come from all the lies, scams and frauds you have to overcome.

There is nothing for free in life, nor in financial markets. You have to fight, and you have to go yard by yard to score the touchdown. And sometimes the only true help you'll find it's that little voice inside you. The one that...

Wow!

There is really word "sell" on the chart in the time when obviously the "runner" is up, and the only way to profit on this one is to Buy.

Great post, elizo! Thank you!
  • #15,943
  • Oct 14, 2011 9:07am Oct 14, 2011 9:07am
Quoting elizo
For a long time I've been silent about all this nasty issue.

I think in your progress to become a successful and profitable trader you have to face diferent challenges. Some come from the markets themselves. Some come from the way you approach them. And some come from all the lies, scams and frauds you have to overcome.

There is nothing for free in life, nor in financial markets. You have to fight, and you have to go yard by yard to score the touchdown. And sometimes the only true help you'll find it's that little voice inside you. The one that...
Thank you Mr Elizo, senior respected member for show the lying of Fxa. He tell lies of everyone to try and keep them quite because most decent people don;t want fight on forum and they don't want waste effort defend against fxa lies. Like what he say about Feb (we know you are using different name to make post but it is you , no hiding). A warning to all fxa is very active in systems section under name name of P.D.. (you do search to find out yourself). He write same stile like fxa and he make big claims like him, lmao.
Thank you Mr Elizo for bringing this evedence to the forum. To have keep quite would have been very wrong and you done very good. Thank you.
  • #15,944
  • Oct 14, 2011 9:33am Oct 14, 2011 9:33am
Compare this two chart.What you see? Same stile ? lol. Go find him !!!
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  • #15,945
  • Oct 20, 2011 2:19pm Oct 20, 2011 2:19pm
Quoting DareXau
G'day seawinde,
... yes, you're right ... those candles are slightly different ... not in values, but just in color.
That's an effect of custom indicator with a specific settings to enhance the trend or simply to make it more visual.
Nice to see you again. I'm following this tread since very long time but FF blocked me because of political reasons and here I have new account. Anyway, would be nice to hear about your trade experiences and wisdom if something new.
  • #15,946
  • Oct 20, 2011 4:38pm Oct 20, 2011 4:38pm
ahaha i have also noticed that around 1 year ago. than i sweared for the time i spent reading his posts)

Quoting elizo
For a long time I've been silent about all this nasty issue.

I think in your progress to become a successful and profitable trader you have to face diferent challenges. Some come from the markets themselves. Some come from the way you approach them. And some come from all the lies, scams and frauds you have to overcome.

There is nothing for free in life, nor in financial markets. You have to fight, and you have to go yard by yard to score the touchdown. And sometimes the only true help you'll find it's that little voice inside you. The one that...
  • #15,947
  • Oct 24, 2011 6:48am Oct 24, 2011 6:48am
Hello traders!

i have made a PDF file with ALL POSTS of feb2865 of this thread.

Read them, enjoy them.... Good luck!
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  • #15,948
  • Oct 24, 2011 6:51am Oct 24, 2011 6:51am
Quoting dim4ik42
Hello traders!

i have made a PDF file with ALL POSTS of feb2865 of this thread.

Read them, enjoy them.... Good luck!

Dear Feb!

If you see this post - may be you would like to attach the PDF file with all your posts to the first your post in order for everyone of readers could download it and read it.
  • #15,949
  • Oct 24, 2011 2:22pm Oct 24, 2011 2:22pm
Quoting dim4ik42
Hello traders!

i have made a PDF file with ALL POSTS of feb2865 of this thread.

Read them, enjoy them.... Good luck!
Thank to feb2865 and you Sir for the hard work.
  • #15,950
  • Oct 27, 2011 9:01pm Oct 27, 2011 9:01pm
Does anyone still come to this thread at all? I was trying to trade very similar to this for some time, but couldn't quite define everything as clearly as its all been laid out here and this thread has helped me tremendously. Its too bad it seems as if no one frequents this thread anymore because it would be great to continue to discuss trades/thoughts/ideas.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #15,951
  • Oct 30, 2011 6:20pm Oct 30, 2011 6:20pm
This thread was quite interesting. It started magnificently, then got even better as several members adopted it and helped others get it. But then something dark happened. Then it seemed that those same members turned against the creation of this thread and began negating its benefits having already prospered from it itself. Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines, but its just a shame. It was amazing to start at the beginning and see members come in, such as FXachilles and transform themselves into very profitable traders. The first 500 pages are golden, maybe even the first 800. But then it starts to regress. I wish someone were still around and I didn't come to the table so late. Its wonderful to see that at work. If anyone is still trading anything resembling the origin of this system or even some of the original FX additions, I'd love to hear from them. Or even if you are just starting, maybe we could keep this alive. DIM are you still around?

Anyway, just hoping someone will crawl out of the woodwork and keep this alive.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #15,952
  • Oct 30, 2011 6:51pm Oct 30, 2011 6:51pm
Quoting jmflukeiii
This thread was quite interesting. It started magnificently, then got even better as several members adopted it and helped others get it. But then something dark happened. Then it seemed that those same members turned against the creation of this thread and began negating its benefits having already prospered from it itself. Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines, but its just a shame. It was amazing to start at the beginning and see members come in, such as FXachilles and transform themselves into very profitable traders. The first 500...
Hi, I think you should read recent post by mr Elizo. Fxachiles turned out to be scammer. Then you understand better what happen. Fxachiles fooled lots of people with his claims of very profitable trader.
Anything of value belongs to Feb, please no glory to the cheat Fxachiles.
  • #15,953
  • Oct 30, 2011 6:57pm Oct 30, 2011 6:57pm
Quoting Fayloh
Hi, I think you should read recent post by mr Elizo. Fxachiles turned out to be scammer. Then you understand better what happen. Fxachiles fooled lots of people with his claims of very profitable trader.
Anything of value belongs to Feb, please no glory to the cheat Fxachiles.
That's what I started to suspect, especially with the strikingly similar multiple account names at the end. But thank you again for confirming the suspicion. Its sad that this thread turned into a typical online pissing match.

Thanks for the reply.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #15,954
  • Oct 31, 2011 12:56am Oct 31, 2011 12:56am
Quoting jmflukeiii
This thread was quite interesting. It started magnificently, then got even better as several members adopted it and helped others get it. But then something dark happened. Then it seemed that those same members turned against the creation of this thread and began negating its benefits having already prospered from it itself. Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines, but its just a shame. It was amazing to start at the beginning and see members come in, such as FXachilles and transform themselves into very profitable traders. The first 500...

Hi!

I am still around this thread of course!

If you see - I have made a PDF file with all feb's posts, as feb2865 wanted... You could read the whole thread, and then you could read only PDF if you wish to refresh something.

Trading shoud be simple. Remember this. The more you would make it complicate - the more far away you would move off your target.
This little "system" as it is put form the beginning of this thread - is easy to follow, and simple in trading. The only thing you need to remember by trading it is - you need moving market to be profitable. I mean - of course the market could be stalling after you are in, but you have to be in after the market started moving. Hope I said it clear.


Good luck!
  • #15,955
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:01am Oct 31, 2011 1:01am
Quoting dim4ik42
Hi!

I am still around this thread of course!

If you see - I have made a PDF file with all feb's posts, as feb2865 wanted... You could read the whole thread, and then you could read only PDF if you wish to refresh something.

Trading shoud be simple. Remember this. The more you would make it complicate - the more far away you would move off your target.
This little "system" as it is put form the beginning of this thread - is easy to follow, and simple in trading. The only thing you need to remember by trading it is - you need moving market...
Yes, very much. Thank you for your response. Its great to actually get a response from you. I've spent the past several weeks reading this thread through and through and its great to get a reply from a name I've seen so many times.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you trading from? I'm on the pacific coast of US so time zones are a bit rough for me (London opens at 12am and NYC opens at 5am). It seems like Sydney/Asia trading isn't great for the most part... not a whole lot of movement. Of course there was that beautiful bracket breakdown tonight, but I had a damn dinner I had to be at and missed it.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #15,956
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:12am Oct 31, 2011 1:12am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Yes, very much. Thank you for your response. Its great to actually get a response from you. I've spent the past several weeks reading this thread through and through and its great to get a reply from a name I've seen so many times.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you trading from? I'm on the pacific coast of US so time zones are a bit rough for me (London opens at 12am and NYC opens at 5am). It seems like Sydney/Asia trading isn't great for the most part... not a whole lot of movement. Of course there was that beautiful bracket breakdown...

I live and trade from Ukraine. My local time is GMT+2.
  • #15,957
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:16am Oct 31, 2011 1:16am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Yes, very much. Thank you for your response. Its great to actually get a response from you. I've spent the past several weeks reading this thread through and through and its great to get a reply from a name I've seen so many times.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you trading from? I'm on the pacific coast of US so time zones are a bit rough for me (London opens at 12am and NYC opens at 5am). It seems like Sydney/Asia trading isn't great for the most part... not a whole lot of movement. Of course there was that beautiful bracket breakdown...

You definitely need moving market in order to be profitable bt trading this system.

In fact, as I see things, market has three different shapes - sideway move, up move, and down move. By trading this system we need up move or down move. But to catch it in right time we need to wait for the market to show us its hands - SWING. Up or down. It is what we wait for before step in the trade.

Feb stressed this so many times - if you have your swing - trade. If you haven't - don't. A easy as it is.
  • #15,958
  • Edited 1:31am Oct 31, 2011 1:20am | Edited 1:31am
Quoting dim4ik42
You definitely need moving market in order to be profitable bt trading this system.

In fact, as I see things, market has three different shapes - sideway move, up move, and down move. By trading this system we need up move or down move. But to catch it in right time we need to wait for the market to show us its hands - SWING. Up or down. It is what we wait for before step in the trade.

Feb stressed this so many times - if you have your swing - trade. If you haven't - don't. A easy as it is.


Ah! To add something - Look at market like at a big auction! You could not to change the direction of it nor you could not move it. You could only to move along with it. So - after you see the swing - it means that may be the market would move that way. Not sure, but it could.
  • #15,959
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:34am Oct 31, 2011 1:34am
Quoting dim4ik42
You definitely need moving market in order to be profitable bt trading this system.

In fact, as I see things, market has three different shapes - sideway move, up move, and down move. By trading this system we need up move or down move. But to catch it in right time we need to wait for the market to show us its hands - SWING. Up or down. It is what we wait for before step in the trade.

Feb stressed this so many times - if you have your swing - trade. If you haven't - don't. A easy as it is.

Great advice! Thank you. I get too wrapped up in minor details and end up placing too many trades to quickly most of the time without letting it develop. Thank you for your advice... its really appreciated to talk to someone who is and has been using this.

Have you been able to create the expectancy to make this successful for you?
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #15,960
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:50am Oct 31, 2011 1:50am
Quoting jmflukeiii
Great advice! Thank you. I get too wrapped up in minor details and end up placing too many trades to quickly most of the time without letting it develop. Thank you for your advice... its really appreciated to talk to someone who is and has been using this.

Have you been able to create the expectancy to make this successful for you?

well, about expectancy...

i could not grasp it form the very beginning, (and you can see it during the thread), but after some time (when I was not positn here already) I was able to grasp it really - every trading "system" has its own expectancy. When we was asking feb about expectancy I now understand - it was too comlicated for him to do it for us... Look - when you trade - you have your goals. I mean - your goals are either:to catch 1:1 R:R, or to catch 2:1 R:R, or to catch a runner 5:1 more than your risk etc... And whiile your trading you just manage your trades in tune with your goals! Ok?

So - when you trade just keep in mind your goals. Have pre-concived way in your mind how the market should develop in order for you to be in the trade, or just bail out....

As for me - I trade a little different way. Not 100% system II, but I should say - it is very-very close to system II. In fact I was learning to trade with using system II, and after that I just "twist" it a little.
But again - I have my goals in my mind, and it helps me a lot.

Hope it helps! Good luck!
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