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  • #1,341
  • Oct 23, 2011 3:20pm Oct 23, 2011 3:20pm
Quoting Rikers
gotta say I'm surprised
I've thought about it again now and have come to the conclusion that I have to refine the measurement method. I apologise.
  • #1,342
  • Oct 24, 2011 2:58am Oct 24, 2011 2:58am
Quoting m.m.m.
I've thought about it again now and have come to the conclusion that I have to refine the measurement method. I apologise.
how did you messure it?
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #1,343
  • Oct 24, 2011 3:32am Oct 24, 2011 3:32am
Dukascopy has huge data available on the website, but for unknown reason I can't download it on my laptop? I tried to download it in three different browsers.

OS: Windows 7
Antivirus: Avast.

Thanks for help,

Josef
  • #1,344
  • Oct 25, 2011 1:58am Oct 25, 2011 1:58am
Quoting josef
Dukascopy has huge data available on the website, but for unknown reason I can't download it on my laptop? I tried to download it in three different browsers.

OS: Windows 7
Antivirus: Avast.

Thanks for help,

Josef
what exactly is it you are trying to download?
maybe I can help you
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #1,345
  • Oct 25, 2011 2:51am Oct 25, 2011 2:51am
Dukascopy Bank SA is proud to announce the launch of Dukascopy Europe.

Dukascopy Europe IBS AS is an EU based and regulated investment brokerage company which is 100% owned by Swiss Forex Bank Dukascopy Bank SA.

Dukascopy Europe aims at providing forex trading services to both private and institutional clients in any of the 27 EU countries.

Dukascopy Europe's Benefits:

* EU clients benefit from simple account opening procedures.
* Minimum Initial Deposit starting with 100 USD.
* Funding forex account by Payment/Credit Cards in additions to standard account funding facilities
* Same Data Feed, Spreads, Liquidity, Trading Tools and direct access to the SWFX Marketplace

For more information please visit www.dukascopy.eu
  • #1,346
  • Oct 25, 2011 2:54am Oct 25, 2011 2:54am

Dukascopy Bank SA has announced as of the 15th October 2011 the minimal initial deposit to open an account has changed from $1,000 to $5,000. This change will not affect Swiss, Chinese and Singaporean residents and other non-EU residents and clients who have applied for a Live Account prior to the 15th October 2011.

Clients who have applied prior to the 15th October 2011 can still fund the account with $1,000. For more information please contact your Account Manager or e-mail [email protected]

Clients wishing to deposit less than $5,000 as trading margin may apply for a Live Account with Dukascopy Europe (Subsidiary of Dukascopy Bank SA) www.dukascopy.eu

The minimal deposit requirement for a Live Account with Dukascopy Europe is $100. Live Accounts with Dukascopy Europe can be opened using simplified procedures and funds can be deposited via credit cards, subject to specific conditions.

For more information please go to www.dukascopy.eu or contact [email protected]
  • #1,347
  • Oct 25, 2011 4:09am Oct 25, 2011 4:09am
Then what exactly is the difference between the good old 5000 account and a $100 account? What would make me want to have the 5k account over the new one?
I found a penny today. That's +100 pips for me.
  • #1,348
  • Oct 25, 2011 4:50am Oct 25, 2011 4:50am
Nice job Dukascopy. I have demanded lower minimum deposits, credit card options, and a more affordable API not long ago. It's nice to see you react to some of these demands.

Quoting ReaM
Then what exactly is the difference between the good old 5000 account and a $100 account? What would make me want to have the 5k account over the new one?
The way I understand it is:

- Dukascopy.com requires a $5000 minimum initial deposit. Only Swiss clients are allowed to deposit less than that. Only wire transfers are accepted.

- Dukascopy.eu (which is a new European subsidiary of Dukascopy bank), however, requires a $100 minimum deposit. Wire transfers and credit card deposits are both accepted.

--> Other than that, both have the same trading conditions (same ECN model, same liquidity, same prices, same commission model, etc).
  • #1,349
  • Oct 25, 2011 6:18am Oct 25, 2011 6:18am
Quoting roughtrader
what exactly is it you are trying to download?
maybe I can help you
Crude Oil data and Brent Oil data.

I already got it. Thank you for your offer.

However, It took me a day to figure it out.

1. After a first search, I got to their website.

"Great, they have what I'm looking for!"

"Oh, it's not loading"

2. Keep searching. Visiting different websites, wring on the forums, sending request to the brokers, trying different platforms.

The result:: I got something, but not the best.:nerd:

3. Evening,

" Oh, I can try to download it on my VPS"

"It works! Unbelievable!

That's my story.

Regards,

Josef
  • #1,350
  • Oct 27, 2011 4:06am Oct 27, 2011 4:06am
'Place BID/OFFER

BID and OFFER orders are limit orders, visible in the market depth by other internal participants in the marketplace. To the extent of the internal liquidity, these orders have the ability to capture the internal market orders and therefore to enable the clients to perform their own market-making activity.
Bid and offer orders can be used to take, flatten, reduce or increase an exposure.'


http://www.dukascopy.com/wiki/index....lace_BID/OFFER


I was curious as to whether anyone LIVE has tried to exploit their own market making activities? I am in the process of setting up a live account with Dukascopy and thought this adds an extra dimension to trading with them.
However the multiple times Ive tried this idea on the demo have not succeeded. Thoughts?
  • #1,351
  • Oct 27, 2011 6:59am Oct 27, 2011 6:59am
Quoting Fresh1
...
imo forget about it...if you can't have an automatic algo running close to their servers + set some ridiculous low price for big volume you'll never be able to get market making working profitably

anyhow most of your market making will be hit by the opposing limit order wall so you'll actually be filled as an market order paying the spread if you can't react to price change fast and that only can be done by collocating your strategy to their servers.
  • #1,352
  • Oct 27, 2011 10:32am Oct 27, 2011 10:32am
' you'll actually be filled as an market order paying the spread' - Rikers

I had a feeling someone was going to say that... and that is what happened to me everytime I tried on the demo account. Was just wondering If I was missing a trick to be able to use that element of the system.

Must be a pretty low % that get filled w/o a spread using bid/place option with Jforex I imagine
  • #1,353
  • Oct 27, 2011 4:35pm Oct 27, 2011 4:35pm
Quoting Marv
The way I understand it is:

- Dukascopy.com requires a $5000 minimum initial deposit. Only Swiss clients are allowed to deposit less than that.
Swiss + other non-EU residents like Chinese, Mongolians, Brasilians are considered Übermenschen and are required to deposit only $1,000.

EU residents (lower quality humans) will have to deposit $5,000 if they want their account in Duka Switzerland.

This is called residence segregation
  • #1,354
  • Oct 27, 2011 7:35pm Oct 27, 2011 7:35pm
Quoting Karl_Vosp
Swiss + other non-EU residents like Chinese, Mongolians, Brasilians are considered Übermenschen and are required to deposit only $1,000.
You mean $100.

Quoting Karl_Vosp
EU residents (lower quality humans) will have to deposit $5,000 if they want their account in Duka Switzerland.

This is called residence segregation
Yeah that sucks. :/

Probably something related to their regulation.

I'm not European, but come on Dukascopy, why $5k for European folks? What are your regulators trying to achieve with this?
  • #1,355
  • Oct 28, 2011 10:01pm Oct 28, 2011 10:01pm
1 if fund by credit card,can i withdraw back all the fund to my credit card?Is there any other rules about the withdrawal by credit card?
2 Is there live online help?
3 Can i open my account with the steps all are online,but not need the step(Fill in the papers, sign and send them to Dukascopy Europe.)?


Quoting Dukascopy
[font=&quot][size=3]Dukascopy Bank SA is proud to announce the launch of Dukascopy Europe.

Dukascopy Europe IBS AS is an EU based and regulated investment brokerage company which is 100% owned by Swiss Forex Bank Dukascopy Bank SA.

Dukascopy Europe aims at providing forex trading services to both private and institutional clients in any of the 27 EU countries.

Dukascopy Europe's Benefits:

* EU clients benefit from simple account opening procedures.
* Minimum Initial Deposit starting with 100 USD.
* Funding forex account by Payment/Credit...
  • #1,356
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:45pm Oct 31, 2011 1:45pm
I'm in process of opening a live account with Dukascopy Europe IBS AS and you may find following helpful:

1. no, the only option, how to withdraw your money, is via wire transfer (in swift system)

2. yes, you can contact them through skype, although they (Latvian office) don't accept any calls, only messages

3. no, you gotta fill out all info needed, print it out and send it to them (Latvian office again)

Good luck!

V
gonnwall
  • #1,357
  • Nov 1, 2011 2:48am Nov 1, 2011 2:48am
anyone know if Dukascopy charge anything for deposits and withdraws?
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #1,358
  • Nov 1, 2011 2:52am Nov 1, 2011 2:52am
Quoting Marv
You mean $100.



Yeah that sucks. :/

Probably something related to their regulation.

I'm not European, but come on Dukascopy, why $5k for European folks? What are your regulators trying to achieve with this?
it's possible with just $100 at their EU site,
they claim it to be exactly the same trading place as Dukas Swiss
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #1,359
  • Edited 4:01am Nov 1, 2011 3:48am | Edited 4:01am
Anybody know the minimum for a corp account at the Latvian branch. I sent several emails and even a PM to the member Dukascopy on this site but I have not received a response to that question.

Thanks.

EDIT: They finally got back to me and it is $20,000USD.
  • #1,360
  • Nov 1, 2011 6:11am Nov 1, 2011 6:11am
Quoting roughtrader
anyone know if Dukascopy charge anything for deposits and withdraws?
there is no charges on deposits and withdrawals...the payments go through SWIFT system, they use Dukaskopy Bank SA => you should ask in your bank how they charges incomming/outgoing payments from/to Switzerland
gonnwall
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