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  • #4,601
  • Oct 13, 2011 4:42pm Oct 13, 2011 4:42pm
I like this VQZZ it works for me the original VQ7 would stall

How can it intergrate into the EA?
  • #4,602
  • Oct 14, 2011 1:04am Oct 14, 2011 1:04am
Quoting zznbrm
That VQ indicator is very inefficient - processing up to 10000 records for every tick. Combined with multiple iCustom calls in the EA...it is certainly a resource hog.

I attached a more efficient VQ indicator below as well. I stripped out lots of stuff that I was not interested in. Might be useful.



Looks like the EA is waiting until the UTF (M15) bar closes to see if there is a direction change. That's certainly the most conservative option (although it leads to some very late entries). Other options would be a little more aggressive, leading...
zznbrm, thanks for the great contribution, I actually saw all these deficiencies in the VQ7, in fact some times it does not refresh until you click and refresh it. but as for hogging down resources it is better than HASmtf.

Yes, I chose the conservative entry because that is when one can be sure that the trend has truly changed but if anyone wants aggressive entry why not only just be ready for some aggressive reversal too as you already pointed out.

zz have you looked into the EA too, is there any enhancement you think can go into it? We need your active participation and contribution in here. As TELAC said if only we can harness the skills in this thread together, we can take the brokers for a very rough ride.

kos
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #4,603
  • Oct 14, 2011 1:19am Oct 14, 2011 1:19am
Quoting disbellj
Put it like this: old indicator that made offline chart, you couldn't trade on the offline chart because it did not ACT like an online chart. Therefore, I had to make everything be "hard-coded" into EA or user input, like symbol name (##T101## was the original name), and not have to user input timeframe since timeframe for T101 chart is same as timeframe indicator that makes offline chart is put on.

So drop (I think it's Basketv6 that was posted is new offline chart from another thread started by a generous coder named John I think), then put...
Don, always there to help others, this explanation is to the point and I hope others too would get out behind those coverings and make their findings known or help others at least in setting up their charts or even Pick a timeframe and lets see how the EA is doing on those timeframes and if there are observations like the one zznbrm just put across and rectified there are more people also like Don who can trash those issues.

Lets not give up on this thread and the system, yes we may have our disagreements from time to time and rant and rant and rant... unending, but you know what its fun and its for the better.

kos
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #4,604
  • Oct 14, 2011 1:40am Oct 14, 2011 1:40am
this is what I mean, I receive PM all the time from people who say they don't want to show faces in public forums, yet they are not ashamed to pick what is posted in public forum and use it, not even considering making a feedback to encourage others.

I used to think this thread is in obscurity and only has a handful of contributors but within 41 hours of posting the EA and VQ we got 79 downloads, apart from about 10 active contributors that I know the remaining 69 people are lurkers.

kos
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  • #4,605
  • Oct 14, 2011 1:58am Oct 14, 2011 1:58am
Quoting dryclean
I like this VQZZ it works for me the original VQ7 would stall

How can it intergrate into the EA?
DC,

open up the code if you know how to, and change the "VQ7" in red box to "VQzz" and click the compile button in metaeditor I think that's all and the EA will start using VQzz instead of VQ7

kos
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  • #4,606
  • Oct 14, 2011 2:21am Oct 14, 2011 2:21am
Kos,

Didn't you mention that the VQ7 was intrigal to the EA? Or by doing as you suggest will cancel that and call it in from the indicators folder?
  • #4,607
  • Oct 14, 2011 2:38am Oct 14, 2011 2:38am
Quoting Telac
Kos,

Didn't you mention that the VQ7 was intrigal to the EA? Or by doing as you suggest will cancel that and call it in from the indicators folder?
I tried integrating vq7 into the EA but that got messy and EA would not trade, so I just call it from the indicator folder. I have not tried VQzz but at Dryclean's word that is why I suggested that, and by the way its easier using it from the indicator folder in case you want to switch to another indi

kos
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  • #4,608
  • Oct 14, 2011 2:44am Oct 14, 2011 2:44am
How will it work with the indicator inputs then? Will the ones in the EA settings still do it? or do we need to set the indicator inputs to what we want, then compile it?
  • #4,609
  • Oct 14, 2011 3:09am Oct 14, 2011 3:09am
Quoting Kosomolate
this is what I mean,

....... I know the remaining 69 people are lurkers.

kos
As one of those "lurkers" just wanted to assure you that your efforts are definitely appreciated and this was stated at the time of the thread 300 page celebration.
Your posting of the VQ7 has definitely opened up many new ways to tame this beast.
Have not been a regular contributor here, but have been busy taking notes. In fact, as a birthday present for your 45th birthday if there is no objection, I would be pleased to post the notes I have put together of your key posts that have helped my understanding of the BTS.
Hope you continue to provide guidance and have a nice day!
EP
  • #4,610
  • Oct 14, 2011 4:17am Oct 14, 2011 4:17am
Quoting Telac
How will it work with the indicator inputs then? Will the ones in the EA settings still do it? or do we need to set the indicator inputs to what we want, then compile it?
Sorry Telac, it would not work straight like that, I just peek into the code and see that ZZnbrm shed off some of the internal parameters of vq7 which also has to be reflected in the icustom call in the EA if it must work with it. stick to vq7 for now till someone does it. If you look at the picture attached you will notice I have the single pair version and it is running on 4 pairs and my PC is still very cool and unruffled.

@ZZnbrm
looks as if there is a bit difference in what the two are doing which I think may impact on profit line somehow, look at the blue boxes, there are more if you scroll back, what can you do about that.

kos
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  • #4,611
  • Oct 14, 2011 4:23am Oct 14, 2011 4:23am
Quoting EaglePip
As one of those "lurkers" just wanted to assure you that your efforts are definitely appreciated and this was stated at the time of the thread 300 page celebration.
Your posting of the VQ7 has definitely opened up many new ways to tame this beast.
Have not been a regular contributor here, but have been busy taking notes. In fact, as a birthday present for your 45th birthday if there is no objection, I would be pleased to post the notes I have put together of your key posts that have helped my understanding of the BTS.
Hope you continue to provide...
YES! YES!! YES!!!

thanks EaglePip, those notes would help us all, no objections post them, this is not my thread its open to all developers of BTS in any way.
God Bless You tremendously.

kos
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #4,612
  • Oct 14, 2011 5:16am Oct 14, 2011 5:16am
Quoting Kosomolate
DC,

open up the code if you know how to, and change the "VQ7" in red box to "VQzz" and click the compile button in metaeditor I think that's all and the EA will start using VQzz instead of VQ7

kos
Thanks gave it t try will let you know

Also here is a pic of VQ7 and VQZZ they are the same

your pic was a single pair and I saw VQ7 was settings 8315
is VQZZ also 8315 I just did AU and it was the same

???????

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  • #4,613
  • Oct 14, 2011 5:27am Oct 14, 2011 5:27am
Is VQZZ re-painting
something weird happened I was just sitting here aind I thought It was green then red then green hhhhhhmmmmmm!

PS
When I clicked on VQ7 and went to realtime true it lined up
So ZZ is the VQZZ set as realtime true?
Look at threads about vq it states that realtime true will repaint false will not
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  • #4,614
  • Oct 14, 2011 5:36am Oct 14, 2011 5:36am
Quoting dryclean
Thanks gave it t try will let you know

Also here is a pic of VQ7 and VQZZ they are the same

your pic was a single pair and I saw VQ7 was settings 8315
is VQZZ also 8315 I just did AU and it was the same

???????

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true talk Dryclean, I did not observe the vq7 settings. Yes VQ7 and VQzz are the doing the same thing.

thanks for pointing that out to me in time

kos
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  • #4,615
  • Oct 14, 2011 5:39am Oct 14, 2011 5:39am
Kos
If I do a script close all or a manual close all soon as the last pair is closed they all open again this is with the VQ7 switched to VQZZ when VQ7 is used the close all closes and does not reopen the pairs

I guess VQZZ is always on and VQ7 goes by the arrow or alert
  • #4,616
  • Oct 14, 2011 6:19am Oct 14, 2011 6:19am
If anyone could intergrate the RK-Hama indi in Kos EA
Take a look at this pic
Sell 9-30 arrow then Buy arrow 10-04 1000's of pips
I love to demo something like that manualy is hard to catch it for me
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  • #4,617
  • Edited 6:57am Oct 14, 2011 6:33am | Edited 6:57am
Dryclean,

That indeed is a sweet green run; however one would need to calculate the pip difference obtained by both then make the call, and of course you'd also have to know how your locking, TP and SL was set. On a 1/15 setup it's a no brainer but on 15/240 not sure but certainly hassle free if you’re running manually.
  • #4,618
  • Oct 14, 2011 6:52am Oct 14, 2011 6:52am
Quoting Kosomolate
YES! YES!! YES!!!

thanks EaglePip, those notes would help us all, .....

kos
Here they are, my small contribution to the thread. They will probably need revision in view of all the latest developments.
EP
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  • #4,619
  • Oct 14, 2011 8:22am Oct 14, 2011 8:22am
Quoting dryclean
Is VQZZ re-painting
something weird happened I was just sitting here aind I thought It was green then red then green hhhhhhmmmmmm!

PS
When I clicked on VQ7 and went to realtime true it lined up
So ZZ is the VQZZ set as realtime true?
Look at threads about vq it states that realtime true will repaint false will not
Yes, the current bar will repaint because the value is constantly changing.

If you put the indicator on a M15 chart and set the timeframe to M15, then the last bar value will change until it is closed.

Now put the indicator on a M15 chart and set the timeframe to H1, then up to the last 4 bars values will change until the H1 bar is closed.

This is how you guys are using the indicator - you are waiting for the Upper TimeFrame bar to close before making trading decisions (see EA). But it makes sense (to me anyway) to always know what the current bar is doing as price changes.

This is how most MTF indicators are done. I personally prefer to see the actual Upper TF values on the Lower TF, but you guys are not using it like that so I left it as is.

Also, the script in this post shows how to use an internal function for the VQzz call instead of iCustom:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...60#post5039160
  • #4,620
  • Oct 14, 2011 9:15am Oct 14, 2011 9:15am
I will do testing. I know it looks as though I'm not doing anything right now, just don't want to give incomplete report, and honestly I haven't looked at the EA yet since kos uploaded it. I downloaded it, but it took me a couple pages until I figured out that Kos had changed it to use new indicator. I will make a video showing how to do iCustom shortly Lord willing, so that anybody can test any indicator in the EA For now, I'm going to get rid of my virtual machine (so attached pics can't and won't be redone), divide up HD, install WinXP and Win7, so that testing from here on out will be done mainly on Mac, but can boot into others, test same indicator and see resource needs. Just that at that time, each OS will have 100% of resources (RAM and CPU) so that tests are apples to apples and not apples to oranges, and will be more applicable for many others, where the attached pics are really only valuable to me and maybe some Mac users out there.

zznbrm's great contribution is his being able to take the need for using iCustom away. BUT, during testing when you're not sure which indicator you'll use yet, I see iCustom as a great way of testing, without having to go through trouble of directly implementing indicator code into EA (which is what zznbrm's code does - makes a function call from start function to a function outside of start function. This function outside of start function IS indicator, NOW inside EA. HOW COOL IS THAT!? BUT, it's overkill IMHO until one decides on an indicator. This may be why zz doesn't give much, since indicators keep changing. BUT obviously he did make this one into code that can be used in EA, so I take that to mean that HE sees value in it, for zz is not like me, it doesn't look like he codes just to code, he must see value in it to code it, so congratulations Kos, if zz sees value, I see value (I did when it was posted

BTW, has anybody tried putting on my hourly open indicator (don't change input values) with one of these others (ESPECIALLY HASmtf), and seeing clear multiple entry points?

Kind regards,

Don

P.S. decided to make video you can download and watch instead of pics.
http://dc281.4shared.com/img/ymqPHQ3...MacVMtests.mov

Quoting dryclean
If anyone could intergrate the RK-Hama indi in Kos EA
Take a look at this pic
Sell 9-30 arrow then Buy arrow 10-04 1000's of pips
I love to demo something like that manualy is hard to catch it for me
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