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  • #16,281
  • Sep 27, 2011 9:24am Sep 27, 2011 9:24am
Quoting mero
iam in form 103.955,a bit late,but we have some huge candles so i was not shure if R level is broken.i think am gonna ride it till 104.985
also i have buy possition in GJ from 119.920 with target 120.555

There is strong resistance around 104.481. Not saying it will not go through, just watch out, it will probably hang around there and then go wherever.


On the ej.
  • #16,282
  • Sep 27, 2011 9:37am Sep 27, 2011 9:37am
Quoting knucklehead
I am not sure what you are asking. Please post a chart with your question.
Sorry to disturb, Knucklehead. This is the chart you post yesterday. And now the price got both 1st and 2nd targets. In the chart you draw a line for price to retrace before going up and it did. How can you know ?
I hope this time my question is clear! Sorry for my poor English.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1317123787
Accept as it is being!
  • #16,283
  • Sep 27, 2011 10:21am Sep 27, 2011 10:21am
Quoting Vnfx
Sorry to disturb, Knucklehead. This is the chart you post yesterday. And now the price got both 1st and 2nd targets. In the chart you draw a line for price to retrace before going up and it did. How can you know ?
I hope this time my question is clear! Sorry for my poor English.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1317123787
this is the nature of kumobreaks,you shoud expect retrace,that retrace is going to be your entry.also chikou must confurm the break.
later on this chart you can see,that chikou cleared the cloud and the retrace is over,thats your confurmation ur ready to enter
  • #16,284
  • Sep 27, 2011 10:27am Sep 27, 2011 10:27am
Quoting Vnfx
Sorry to disturb, Knucklehead. This is the chart you post yesterday. And now the price got both 1st and 2nd targets. In the chart you draw a line for price to retrace before going up and it did. How can you know ?
I hope this time my question is clear! Sorry for my poor English.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1317123787

Equilibrium. That's the answer. There is a flat kijun and kumo, Price is attracted to it usually.
  • #16,285
  • Sep 27, 2011 10:38am Sep 27, 2011 10:38am
The power of Ichi...104.481 affected price like one of my posts said. Need any other evidence swingfiddle?
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  • #16,286
  • Edited 11:32am Sep 27, 2011 11:20am | Edited 11:32am
Quoting knucklehead
The power of Ichi...104.481 affected price like one of my posts said. Need any other evidence swingfiddle?
dude,why you get me wrong?i never said ichi is useless,everytime i say how great S/R tool is.
and well done with your analysis,i really like it,
BUT!the thin line of our conflict is i say i dont believe in crosses etc..(in signals)
but i do believe in the s/r that ichi is providing.

for example if you see eur/jpy h1 at 26 september,price rejected the big flat top(which happend to be rejection of 4h k/jun as well),why in the word not take the short immediatly after the rejection and get in in a good price and wait for the t/s k/j cross and kumo brake out which happend 100 pips bellow?see,all i want is get in in a better price(dont beat me for this)

ps,i posted the whole thing just in case other people here is using ichi for a kind of swing trading but since you dont like the idea,i ll be back with a statement if i manage to make a green account
cheers happy pips
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,287
  • Sep 27, 2011 12:04pm Sep 27, 2011 12:04pm
Quoting swingfiddle
dude,why you get me wrong?i never said ichi is useless,everytime i say how great S/R tool is.
and well done with your analysis,i really like it,
BUT!the thin line of our conflict is i say i dont believe in crosses etc..(in signals)
but i do believe in the s/r that ichi is providing.

for example if you see eur/jpy h1 at 26 september,price rejected the big flat top(which happend to be rejection of 4h k/jun as well),why in the word not take the short immediatly after the rejection and get in in a good price and wait for the t/s k/j cross and...
Hm,that s a good question,must test in long term how much percent profitable would be a trader,if he takes directly a signal or wait for the cross of t/K or cumocloud or.....

But that s a good question.

Have a nice day.
  • #16,288
  • Sep 27, 2011 12:18pm Sep 27, 2011 12:18pm
this is what the coin said for gold
1h chart*
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  • #16,289
  • Sep 27, 2011 1:03pm Sep 27, 2011 1:03pm
Quoting forex4ever
Hm,that s a good question,must test in long term how much percent profitable would be a trader,if he takes directly a signal or wait for the cross of t/K or cumocloud or.....

But that s a good question.

Have a nice day.
You can take a a short at a s/r line. But, its tricky. You have to find very good s/r in order to trade that. Basics are needed first. I enter weak crosses all the time, and that is generally where the swing begins. Do the crosses go long or short all the time? No, but that is where experience and a good eye comes in.

Take a look at the AU, see what is happening?
  • #16,290
  • Sep 27, 2011 1:13pm Sep 27, 2011 1:13pm
Quoting knucklehead
You can take a a short at a s/r line. But, its tricky. You have to find very good s/r in order to trade that. Basics are needed first. I enter weak crosses all the time, and that is generally where the swing begins. Do the crosses go long or short all the time? No, but that is where experience and a good eye comes in.

Take a look at the AU, see what is happening?

Which pair and what timeframe should i see?
  • #16,291
  • Sep 27, 2011 1:18pm Sep 27, 2011 1:18pm
Quoting forex4ever
Which pair and what timeframe should i see?

AU h1
  • #16,292
  • Sep 27, 2011 1:28pm Sep 27, 2011 1:28pm
Quoting mero
iam in form 103.955,a bit late,but we have some huge candles so i was not shure if R level is broken.i think am gonna ride it till 104.985
also i have buy possition in GJ from 119.920 with target 120.555
todays total
----
EJ closed @ 104.831
GJ still open,15pips to hit the target @ 120.555

iam off to watch champions league maches

good luck all
  • #16,293
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:45pm Sep 27, 2011 3:45pm
So what I was getting at with the AU is to watch how the Chinkou reacts around the Kumo. Also the there is a flat Kumo floor. So you see this and a few other things you can see when to enter and when to stay out of a trade. Ichi traders want high probability trades. I know everyone else does also, but with the tools Ichi has built in it is very possible.
  • #16,294
  • Sep 28, 2011 9:58am Sep 28, 2011 9:58am
It seems that ichimoku shows no trend today for all pairs (AU, EU, EJ, GU, GJ, ..).
Any idea?
Accept as it is being!
  • #16,295
  • Sep 28, 2011 10:56am Sep 28, 2011 10:56am
I have to read the first few pages again. Made some pips today but I entered late in my trades unable to maximize the profit (or maybe this is just a crazy Friday).
  • #16,296
  • Sep 28, 2011 12:51pm Sep 28, 2011 12:51pm
I ll post this because its an ideal example of what i wanted to explain when i said
"getting in in a better price"

At H1 you see rejection of kumo top by chinkou and the murray math line was rejected to the pip by 2 h1 candles

at H4 you see roughly rejection of flat kumo future

at D1 yesterday candle rejected the big flat bottom and closed bellow it.

i took the short and by the time i am writing i am in 100pips profit and running,

see,it was a matter of some hours for jen pairs to be hot again

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Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,297
  • Sep 28, 2011 9:16pm Sep 28, 2011 9:16pm
Quoting knucklehead
So what I was getting at with the AU is to watch how the Chinkou reacts around the Kumo. Also the there is a flat Kumo floor. So you see this and a few other things you can see when to enter and when to stay out of a trade. Ichi traders want high probability trades. I know everyone else does also, but with the tools Ichi has built in it is very possible.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7950/unled1iw.jpg



from the chart how to know the kijun, tenkan and senkou parameter ? in whihc setting can see this ?

and also what is the meaning by trailing stop ?
  • #16,298
  • Sep 28, 2011 9:23pm Sep 28, 2011 9:23pm
Quoting swingfiddle
I ll post this because its an ideal example of what i wanted to explain when i said
"getting in in a better price"

At H1 you see rejection of kumo top by chinkou and the murray math line was rejected to the pip by 2 h1 candles

at H4 you see roughly rejection of flat kumo future

at D1 yesterday candle rejected the big flat bottom and closed bellow it.

i took the short and by the time i am writing i am in 100pips profit and running,

see,it was a matter of some hours for jen pairs to be hot again

what is the indicator name for the pivot line ?
  • #16,299
  • Sep 29, 2011 2:44am Sep 29, 2011 2:44am
Quoting harmonic2
what is the indicator name for the pivot line ?
which line?do u mean the s1 s2 s3 r1 r2 r3?
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,300
  • Sep 29, 2011 8:56am Sep 29, 2011 8:56am
H4 up; H1 up; M15 up
Be prepare to entry for M5
Accept as it is being!
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