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  • #16,261
  • Sep 26, 2011 3:29am Sep 26, 2011 3:29am
Hey guys

I dont want to disrespect anyone here about their trading,especially Vic
which i thank him for his contribution and also for leting everyone say his own word here.

Forex4ever you are right!i may do it the wrong way!but if there are hundrends of winning trades posted here,i am sure there are hundrends losing trades that where never were post,so what counts is not isolated winning trades.
there are 16,000 posts here yes,but is there a post that shows account history of past 6 months?if you find a positive backtest for a good amount of time then you are dealing with a trader that makes a living from this and then you have a strategy not a system.I am sorry but anyone who wants to trade with green and red lights or alarms when you have crosses etc...he will probably fail unless he is lucky..bank of switzerland doesnt care if our ichi crossed or broke out..neither does Trichet,but if some good news from eurozone move for example the EUR/JPY upwards and you see a consolidation in a strong resistance in a strong downtrend,then you know its running out of steam...technically you came to a strong resistance and foundamentally ,man..thats eurozone,there are billions of reasons to sell the pair soon.
Indicators are just tools to help you find some levels...dont mean to play it smart here but trading is far more than just a video game with green and red lights..
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,262
  • Sep 26, 2011 3:32am Sep 26, 2011 3:32am
Quoting Vnfx
Dear Swingfiddle,
I think you have very good comments and I have experienced with losses caused by the delayed signals. Could you illustrate your idea/strategy by charts which would help me understand it better?
Cheers
hey Vnfx ,i ll prepare some examples yes
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,263
  • Sep 26, 2011 4:31am Sep 26, 2011 4:31am
You see i got in this trade on late friday sesssion,when g/y pulled back to h1 flat top and 4h kjun.it almost hit my TP but i was sleeping so now i am still in in profit and probably it will continue down as it rejects the smaller flat h1 top at the moment.if it goes past that kumo(north) ill take manually my profit,as i dont want to give back my gains even if they are small
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  • #16,264
  • Sep 26, 2011 4:43am Sep 26, 2011 4:43am
see,same here got in EYRJPY because i saw a rejection of this resistance..doesn matter the TF...its a resistance there in my sell order whether you see it on m30 or h1 or h4,already +20 pips
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  • #16,265
  • Sep 26, 2011 8:26am Sep 26, 2011 8:26am
hi
i think if anyone want to trade on smaller TFs like 5m .needs a trend indicator that dosen't repaint to filter wrong orders. i have already seen your thread so forgive me if this subject has debated before.
cheeers

  • #16,266
  • Sep 26, 2011 9:53am Sep 26, 2011 9:53am
Quoting swingfiddle
see,same here got in EYRJPY because i saw a rejection of this resistance..doesn matter the TF...its a resistance there in my sell order whether you see it on m30 or h1 or h4,already +20 pips
Thanks Swingfiddle for your charts.
I have also taken this deal similar to you but a bit later than you because I waited for the H1 candle closed under Kijun and .... it was a loss trade.

Will you wait for the bar to be closed to define the rejection? And do you have any rule for the SL?

Thanks again for sharing.

Ps. I seems that Vic has been enjoying a long vacation and no need to trade more because he has earned enough pips for his life.
Accept as it is being!
  • #16,267
  • Sep 26, 2011 11:14am Sep 26, 2011 11:14am
Quoting Vnfx
Thanks Swingfiddle for your charts.
I have also taken this deal similar to you but a bit later than you because I waited for the H1 candle closed under Kijun and .... it was a loss trade.

Will you wait for the bar to be closed to define the rejection? And do you have any rule for the SL?

Thanks again for sharing.

Ps. I seems that Vic has been enjoying a long vacation and no need to trade more because he has earned enough pips for his life.
i am still in the trades though i could have been out for +50 in eur/jpy and +30 in gbp/jpy,i could have take profit before 2 hours,but i was greedy and stayed in!well now i am still in and price is getting my direction again after i had a maximum drawdown of -35 pips...
the stop should be quite loose...i use 50 to 70 pips stop,depending on where is the resistance.

ps,no i am not waiting for a close as i can lose the move if i am waiting...i just take the risk

2 golden rules about trading

1)sell at a resistance at a downtrend
2)buy at a support on an uptrend

keep your stop tight (for me tight is 50 pips)

also in my opinion jen pairs are hot at the moment...the rest are not trending,so i focus on jen pairs
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,268
  • Sep 26, 2011 8:27pm Sep 26, 2011 8:27pm
Quoting swingfiddle
Hey guys

I dont want to disrespect anyone here about their trading,especially Vic
which i thank him for his contribution and also for leting everyone say his own word here.

Forex4ever you are right!i may do it the wrong way!but if there are hundrends of winning trades posted here,i am sure there are hundrends losing trades that where never were post,so what counts is not isolated winning trades.
there are 16,000 posts here yes,but is there a post that shows account history of past 6 months?if you find a positive backtest for a good amount...

I don't even know where to start with this. First, you say that Ichi indicators are lagging and so on, but you add more indicators? How does that help? I didn't even read all your posts since it seems you are trying to offend anyone that has posted or read this thread. Ichi is a hard system to grasp, but once you do is very powerful, and apparently you have not grasped it. If you look around, there are plenty of losing trades posted by people wanting to know how to improve. Ichi is a system with strats such as kumo breaks, t/k cross, and some other basics then you get into more advanced strats. If you knew anything about Ichi, you would know how valuable the s/r levels it provides is and how important that is to trading. If you getting in too late with Ichi, you don't understand it.

For wondering where vic is, I am not sure, but I think he left due to useless posts like this. If you want to post you charts, that is fine, but you need to leave you comments to yourself. No one needs to prove themselves by posting profit or losses. If you know what you are doing, people will realize this. If you don't, they will see through the BS.

I haven't posted here in a while, but if anyone needs to know anything about Ichi just ask. I or someone who knows how to trade Ichi will try to help.
  • #16,269
  • Sep 26, 2011 8:33pm Sep 26, 2011 8:33pm
Quoting swingfiddle
i am still in the trades though i could have been out for +50 in eur/jpy and +30 in gbp/jpy,i could have take profit before 2 hours,but i was greedy and stayed in!well now i am still in and price is getting my direction again after i had a maximum drawdown of -35 pips...
the stop should be quite loose...i use 50 to 70 pips stop,depending on where is the resistance.

ps,no i am not waiting for a close as i can lose the move if i am waiting...i just take the risk

2 golden rules about trading

1)sell at a resistance at a downtrend
2)buy at a support...

Your two golden rules, why do you need Ichi if you use this strat? Your gonna lose if you just use 50 pips all the time.

Here is a chart of the EJ, from 9/22 through today it is sideways. How is that trending or hot?
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  • #16,270
  • Sep 26, 2011 9:50pm Sep 26, 2011 9:50pm
Quoting knucklehead
Your two golden rules, why do you need Ichi if you use this strat? Your gonna lose if you just use 50 pips all the time.

Here is a chart of the EJ, from 9/22 through today it is sideways. How is that trending or hot?
still in bearish ? i see the chikou still havent break the kumo,
the trend is uncertainly.
  • #16,271
  • Sep 26, 2011 10:02pm Sep 26, 2011 10:02pm
Quoting harmonic2
still in bearish ? i see the chikou still havent break the kumo,
the trend is uncertainly.

Its definitely retracing, but how much? We'll have to wait and see, but it is starting to reach the top of the kumo.

Edit: I was looking at the wrong chart. EJ is ranging, showing signs of going long possibly, but it does't look like anything I would touch at the moment.
  • #16,272
  • Sep 27, 2011 1:26am Sep 27, 2011 1:26am
Quoting knucklehead
Your two golden rules, why do you need Ichi if you use this strat? Your gonna lose if you just use 50 pips all the time.

Here is a chart of the EJ, from 9/22 through today it is sideways. How is that trending or hot?
not its not trending in h1,its consolidating,but its still trending hard in h4,d1,and weekly,so there are more posibilities that it will continue the bearish move.(i dont want to try to guess bottoms and tops)
i like to use ichi because its a very good S/R system
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,273
  • Sep 27, 2011 2:04am Sep 27, 2011 2:04am
Quoting knucklehead
I don't even know where to start with this. First, you say that Ichi indicators are lagging and so on, but you add more indicators? How does that help? I didn't even read all your posts since it seems you are trying to offend anyone that has posted or read this thread. Ichi is a hard system to grasp, but once you do is very powerful, and apparently you have not grasped it. If you look around, there are plenty of losing trades posted by people wanting to know how to improve. Ichi is a system with strats such as kumo breaks, t/k cross, and some...
i dont want to argue here,so i will just mention that if you read my first post you will see that i wrote how great S/R system ichi is.I dont think i offend someone here except you,on the contrary you are quite agressive by saying my posts useless and also that i have no idea about ichi...
sorry but waiting for price to brake out a kumo and/or waiting for a t/s k/s cross or chinkou crossed the price or chinkou broked the kumo are very helpfull...but they are not rocket science and dont make them sound like that..on the contrary they are so simple a kid can understand...
so i will take ichi for what it is..its a great S/R system and nothing more.

ps
the other indicators i have are just video game...nothing to worry about

ps2 yes someone at last has to prove his strategy and post his statement,theory is good but where are the gains?i am not yet a winning trader.i posted the charts because i was asked to do so by a member here(Vnfx)and the next time i will post here it will be when and IF i ever have a positive statement not to prove to you myself but to prove that i have something that works so other people can gain from this.
so unless you are a proven winning trader dont post charts because people could follow you and lose their money with you trading style.But if you say you are a trader i care only if you are a winning one and yes you have to prove it with a statement ..otherwise you are playing playstation with your MT4

cheers
Never again will fade the trend
  • #16,274
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:38am Sep 27, 2011 6:38am
Quoting swingfiddle
not its not trending in h1,its consolidating,but its still trending hard in h4,d1,and weekly,so there are more posibilities that it will continue the bearish move.(i dont want to try to guess bottoms and tops)
i like to use ichi because its a very good S/R system
On the h4 price has been inside the t/k. Its not trending...
  • #16,275
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:44am Sep 27, 2011 6:44am
Quoting swingfiddle
i dont want to argue here,so i will just mention that if you read my first post you will see that i wrote how great S/R system ichi is.I dont think i offend someone here except you,on the contrary you are quite agressive by saying my posts useless and also that i have no idea about ichi...
sorry but waiting for price to brake out a kumo and/or waiting for a t/s k/s cross or chinkou crossed the price or chinkou broked the kumo are very helpfull...but they are not rocket science and dont make them sound like that..on the contrary they are so simple...

When you question the validity of people in thread that has over 1080 pgs, then yea, I think you offend some people.

I looked at your charts, you have pivots, murray math, sto, and cci indicators. Get rid of those.

Here is a pic of a chart I analyzed yesterday for someone. Look at the chart today. Come back with any questions.
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  • #16,276
  • Sep 27, 2011 8:30am Sep 27, 2011 8:30am
Quoting swingfiddle
not its not trending in h1,its consolidating,but its still trending hard in h4,d1,and weekly,so there are more posibilities that it will continue the bearish move.(i dont want to try to guess bottoms and tops)
i like to use ichi because its a very good S/R system

You could have taken a long of the ej today and made a pretty good profit. Its still running. I am looking at the h1. I am not in this trade. But should have been.
  • #16,277
  • Edited 9:09am Sep 27, 2011 8:52am | Edited 9:09am
Quoting swingfiddle
i dont want to argue here,so i will just mention that if you read my first post you will see that i wrote how great S/R system ichi is.I dont think i offend someone here except you,on the contrary you are quite agressive by saying my posts useless and also that i have no idea about ichi...
[b]sorry but waiting for price to brake out a kumo and/or waiting for a t/s k/s cross or chinkou crossed the price or chinkou broked the kumo are very helpfull...but they are not rocket science and dont make them sound like that..on the contrary they are so simple...

So I just read this. Wanna say you haven't offended anybody that trades Ichi by saying its so simple a kid can do it?

Well I have a question: If it is so easy how come you are not a winning trader? I have a theory, and it is you have no idea what you are talking about.

Also, I have posted a chart showing exactly where I thought price would go, what do you think about that? I walk the walk and so does most other Ichi traders that have posted in this thread.

Anyone new to Ichi does not need to pay any attention to your posts.
  • #16,278
  • Sep 27, 2011 9:12am Sep 27, 2011 9:12am
Quoting knucklehead
When you question the validity of people in thread that has over 1080 pgs, then yea, I think you offend some people.

I looked at your charts, you have pivots, murray math, sto, and cci indicators. Get rid of those.

Here is a pic of a chart I analyzed yesterday for someone. Look at the chart today. Come back with any questions.
Well, Master Knucklehead,
You 've made a great forcast on GU! I know the S/R you draw but I cannot know the price will retrace again to Senkou Span B before going up. Could you please show me your analyse ?
Cheers
Accept as it is being!
  • #16,279
  • Sep 27, 2011 9:22am Sep 27, 2011 9:22am
Quoting knucklehead
You could have taken a long of the ej today and made a pretty good profit. Its still running. I am looking at the h1. I am not in this trade. But should have been.
iam in form 103.955,a bit late,but we have some huge candles so i was not shure if R level is broken.i think am gonna ride it till 104.985
also i have buy possition in GJ from 119.920 with target 120.555
  • #16,280
  • Sep 27, 2011 9:22am Sep 27, 2011 9:22am
Quoting Vnfx
Well, Master Knucklehead,
You 've made a great forcast on GU! I know the S/R you draw but I cannot know the price will retrace again to Senkou Span B before going up. Could you please show me your analyse ?
Cheers

I am not sure what you are asking. Please post a chart with your question.
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