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  • #16,661
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm
Quoting PhAnTi'
okay guys.....thats it for me...

good night.

take care

Jonas
ciao

Quoting sofia101
Thats it for me too ) see you all at London ,GL
and ciao..
  • #16,662
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
what about cattle, or lumber?
Oh, there's trending stuff everywhere. What about the EUR?
  • #16,663
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm
Quoting darimik
haha. buy limit 3$
lol, why so high...


whats the book value of that pig...
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  • #16,664
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:13pm Sep 22, 2011 2:13pm
Quoting OldQuant
Oh, there's trending stuff everywhere. What about the EUR?
so eur could move higher i rekkon
  • #16,665
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:13pm Sep 22, 2011 2:13pm
Quoting gatorinla
if we bounce 60 is lm
now if we go back and hit 30 and dt the target will be 3376.4.. exactly where pa said we were going yesterday.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #16,666
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:14pm Sep 22, 2011 2:14pm
Quoting OldQuant
Just got a phone call. The bonds "have arrived." The OpTwist target of 2.75 for the long end of the US curve is reached. So the top formation I saw an hour ago might actually have been it.

The bad news, though, is the bonds will likely now decouple from EUR and any other risk assets. They might not be a good trend market after today.
Can you expand on that? BTW. Credit Suisse US 10y to yield 1.6% and 30y at 2.5% by year end (source: twitter so)

sisse
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  • #16,667
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:16pm Sep 22, 2011 2:16pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
How does the "decoupling" technically work, OQ?
Just a generic term. In the last six weeks or so, the bond futures prices have been very highly inversely correlated with the EUR, for example. If the price is subject to a constraint, then its correlation with something not subject to that constraint becomes weak or vanishes completely.

Of late, the AUD/HG "couple" has been very tight. But I look for it to break shortly as well, as the markets calm and the reality re-emerges that the value of a nation's currency does not equal the current price of one of its products.
  • #16,668
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:19pm Sep 22, 2011 2:19pm
Quoting OldQuant
Oh, there's trending stuff everywhere. What about the EUR?
Sorry, thought we where talking about real markets...
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  • #16,669
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:19pm Sep 22, 2011 2:19pm
Quoting sisse
Can you expand on that? BTW. Credit Suisse US 10y to yield 1.6% and 30y at 2.5% by year end (source: twitter so)

sisse
I was told that the FED's target rate for the long end of the yield curve is 2.75. If that is true, then it would work like the Swiss peg: the yield could float lower, but the "put" would not be in effect. Higher rates/lower prices would be subject to FED purchase under OpTwist.
  • #16,670
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:20pm Sep 22, 2011 2:20pm
Quoting OldQuant
I was told that the FED's target rate for the long end of the yield curve is 2.75. If that is true, then it would work like the Swiss peg: the yield could float lower, but the "put" would not be in effect. Higher rates/lower prices would be subject to FED purchase under OpTwist.
thnks I see.

sisse
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  • #16,671
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:21pm Sep 22, 2011 2:21pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
Sorry, thought we where talking about real markets...
Well, I still sometimes dream of owning three boxcars full of two by fours. Others want Aston Martins, I'm more easily satisfied.
  • #16,672
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:24pm Sep 22, 2011 2:24pm
Only the 3:45PM can "save" us from panic. Markets collapsing at the close.

sisse
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  • #16,673
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:25pm Sep 22, 2011 2:25pm
Quoting gatorinla
now if we go back and hit 30 and dt the target will be 3376.4.. exactly where pa said we were going yesterday.
target 67.. the bigger chart said 3377 min
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #16,674
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:25pm Sep 22, 2011 2:25pm
Quoting OldQuant
I was told that the FED's target rate for the long end of the yield curve is 2.75. If that is true, then it would work like the Swiss peg: the yield could float lower, but the "put" would not be in effect. Higher rates/lower prices would be subject to FED purchase under OpTwist.

its not that simple, the Fed isnt alone about this...
  • #16,675
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:26pm Sep 22, 2011 2:26pm
Quoting OldQuant
Well, I still sometimes dream of owning three boxcars full of two by fours. Others want Aston Martins, I'm more easily satisfied.
thats 330,000 sq feet of #2 and better shipped out of Price George, British Columbia...where you want it delivered?

make that board feet, lol..
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  • #16,676
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:27pm Sep 22, 2011 2:27pm
Quoting sisse
Only the 3:45PM can "save" us from panic. Markets collapsing at the close.

sisse

Murder on the Close...otherwise known as the famous MOC order...
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  • #16,677
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:29pm Sep 22, 2011 2:29pm
Quoting Larseg
its not that simple, the Fed isnt alone about this...
Speak on. Seriously.
  • #16,678
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:31pm Sep 22, 2011 2:31pm
Sisse, here's an example of what I meant earlier about falling knife catching and not full capitulation. The last line here is BAC. Look at that bid size at 6.00.
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  • #16,679
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:34pm Sep 22, 2011 2:34pm
Quoting OldQuant
Sisse, here's an example of what I meant earlier about falling knife catching and not full capitulation. The last line here is BAC. Look at that bid size at 6.00.
I see is v clear what you meant before. I am looking at BAC now.

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  • #16,680
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:35pm Sep 22, 2011 2:35pm
Quoting OldQuant
Sisse, here's an example of what I meant earlier about falling knife catching and not full capitulation. The last line here is BAC. Look at that bid size at 6.00.

and 300 million on the day, lol...churn and burn..
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