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  • #1,301
  • Sep 6, 2011 3:30am Sep 6, 2011 3:30am
Quoting Marv
Dude, you're trading currencies on an ECN. Of course limit orders have to be placed on their servers. They are added liquidity that needs to be there for them to see. If it stays on your machine, no one (bröker, liquidity providers, etc.) will be able to fill it simply because they won't see it.

I recommend you learn more about market microstructure.
This post just shows the vouch system on FF is broken. In a nutshell SL is a market order if not programed otherwise.
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Ok, so I found out that stop loss orders are placed on their servers.

This could be a long shot but are there any third party software for dukascopy jforex trading platform out there that can keep the stop loss order locally on my machine?
You'll need to program that specifically but I wouldn't advise it. You'll get less slippage the closer to server your order is residing.
  • #1,302
  • Sep 6, 2011 5:36pm Sep 6, 2011 5:36pm
Quoting pippin4me
Ok, so I found out that stop loss orders are placed on their servers.

This could be a long shot but are there any third party software for dukascopy jforex trading platform out there that can keep the stop loss order locally on my machine?
First, I wouldn't worry about your stops being on the Duka server, in my experience the price can shave overhead (or below for short positions) without taking your stop. My closest pass so far has been half a pip on a 50k position to eventually win my TP.

Second, there is something wrong with your stop strategy if you are sensitive about it being on the server. As Rikers wrote, the best place for a reasonable fill is in the server - especially if you are trading multiple lots. If you try to keep a SL on your machine it is likely that the internet will go down just when you don't need it.

Third (and last) you don't need to place a stop order. You can place a conditional order in the opposite direction. It is then not obviously a stop order and if it fills you simply combine it with your trade position and hey presto! no more position. The down side to this is that if you close out your trade you also have to remove your entry order.
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  • #1,303
  • Sep 6, 2011 8:23pm Sep 6, 2011 8:23pm
Quoting Rikers
This post just shows the vouch system on FF is broken. In a nutshell SL is a market order if not programed otherwise.
For some reason I was thinking in terms of limit orders (I even said limit orders in my post, not stop orders). My bad. I should have read the post more carefully before jumping to conclusions and even giving recommendations. Oh and I don't ask for anyone to vouch for me or take my advice for granted. Thanks for the correction though.

Still, a stop order is still an instruction placed with a bröker to place a market buy or market sell order once a certain price is reached. Such instruction by definition needs to be available on the bröker's servers. Keeping it on your machine might be possible to code but it's an exception and not the usual way of how it's done. Plus you need to stay connected to the internet, not to mention the added latency (as you mentioned) increasing the chances of slippage.
  • #1,304
  • Sep 6, 2011 9:07pm Sep 6, 2011 9:07pm
Thanks for the replies. Yes, it makes 'some' sense to keep stop orders on their servers.

Guess its a lesser of two evils.
  • #1,305
  • Sep 7, 2011 5:37pm Sep 7, 2011 5:37pm
I have a question of making withdraws,
fees and options a trader have to withdraw his money?
how long does it take etc etc
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #1,306
  • Sep 21, 2011 1:29am Sep 21, 2011 1:29am
anyone else getting gaps on the charts the last 2 days? Dukas said its a problem their side
  • #1,307
  • Sep 21, 2011 5:12am Sep 21, 2011 5:12am
Hello,

I am migrating again to another broker. I don't feel like opening another 14 day demo again, so I'll just ask:

1. Can anyone tell me: what is the typical (not lowest) spread on EURUSD? SO, if you look at the chart during London Session, what is usually the highest spread?

2. How is slippage? People at forex peace army or whatever they are called write high slippage.

3. Is there an add-on to modify SL, TP, pending on chart?

Can't find leverage req on their webpage, it's 100:1?

Thanks,
ReaM
I found a penny today. That's +100 pips for me.
  • #1,308
  • Sep 21, 2011 6:38am Sep 21, 2011 6:38am
Quoting ReaM
Hello,



1. Can anyone tell me: what is the typical (not lowest) spread on EURUSD? SO, if you look at the chart during London Session, what is usually the highest spread?


ReaM
http://www.dukascopy.com/swiss/engli...d/historical/#

check by yourself, export tick data (bid and ask)
  • #1,309
  • Sep 21, 2011 10:00am Sep 21, 2011 10:00am
Quoting ReaM
I am migrating again to another broker. I don't feel like opening another 14 day demo again, so I'll just ask
#1 Typically 0.8ish

#2 There is slippage control, so you can decide what you want to take and what is "off". I have set it to 0.5 pips and do not get rejected too often.

#3 Do not know, I use my own trading interface : )

#4 100:1


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  • #1,310
  • Sep 21, 2011 11:43am Sep 21, 2011 11:43am
anyone else getting these gaps? pic is 1hr

I have them on all charts on all tfs...
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  • #1,311
  • Sep 21, 2011 1:09pm Sep 21, 2011 1:09pm
yep, don't have it on lower timeframes
  • #1,312
  • Sep 21, 2011 1:45pm Sep 21, 2011 1:45pm
Quoting m.m.m.
#1 Typically 0.8ish

#2 There is slippage control, so you can decide what you want to take and what is "off". I have set it to 0.5 pips and do not get rejected too often.

#3 Do not know, I use my own trading interface : )

#4 100:1


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And what slippage do you get when closing a position? You cannot control that... On the other hand you can - enter opposite with slippage control and merge positions.
  • #1,313
  • Sep 21, 2011 3:13pm Sep 21, 2011 3:13pm
thought it improving then saw gap to the bottom lol
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  • #1,314
  • Sep 22, 2011 1:39am Sep 22, 2011 1:39am
Quoting Scotty2Cues
thought it improving then saw gap to the bottom lol
yes,
i`m having the same problem since monday....and dukas support says it is known and IT is working on it ASAP

4 days later ...same problem....it is not good
  • #1,315
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:42am Sep 22, 2011 2:42am
Quoting Scotty2Cues
anyone else getting gaps on the charts the last 2 days? Dukas said its a problem their side

Dear Trader

We are aware of the charting problems over the past couple of days. The issues have now been fixed. In order to get the right charts on the platform please follow the steps below.

1) Inside platform: Tools -> Preferences -> AdvancedTAB -> Java cache path: Select and copy the path (Ctrl-c)
2) Close platform
3) Locate the '.cache' folder and delete it (picture)
4) Open platform

If you have any further questions, please contact our support team or your account manager.

Best Regards
Dukascopy Bank SA
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  • #1,316
  • Sep 22, 2011 1:03pm Sep 22, 2011 1:03pm
I deleted the cache and still have gap problems. At one point I had no candle history. Just the current candle from when I opened the platform forward. Then I had flat ticks with no price data.

It seems to be tracking price properly again for the moment, but something still seems buggy with the platform.
  • #1,317
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:00pm Sep 22, 2011 2:00pm
Quoting Fudomyo
I deleted the cache and still have gap problems. At one point I had no candle history. Just the current candle from when I opened the platform forward. Then I had flat ticks with no price data.

It seems to be tracking price properly again for the moment, but something still seems buggy with the platform.
same here, Dukas said its still being fixed. Its different everytime I log on, sometimes it looks ok then realise the hourly open and closes dont match.
  • #1,318
  • Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm Sep 22, 2011 2:12pm
Another important question: how much does one get slipped on stops and entries trading 5+ lots, if trading without slippage control? On one hand, I don't want to miss a signal if I get slipped 0.5 pips, on the other hand, I don't want get slipped too much.
I found a penny today. That's +100 pips for me.
  • #1,319
  • Sep 23, 2011 1:50am Sep 23, 2011 1:50am
The platform is still not working.

Time to call tech support....again.

Current chart.
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  • #1,320
  • Sep 23, 2011 2:11am Sep 23, 2011 2:11am
Quoting Fudomyo
The platform is still not working.

Time to call tech support....again.

Current chart.
about those gaps,
are they happening after the weekends on monday when
the market starts? if they do, the gaps are normal
things like that can happend due to the market is really never closed,
sometimes trades are done even during weekends by the big boys,
hence the gaps. what about my previous question?
have anyone of you guys experienced problems withdrawing?
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
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