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  • #281
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:18am Aug 30, 2011 10:18am
Quoting SteveHopwood
It is one of my logic thingy's. Do me a favour, whip, and add the code snippet into the function on your 4 digit crim and recompile, to see if the display is correct now - I have highlighted the bit.

Cheers

[code]double CalculateVolatility(int period, int LookBack)
{
//Calculates the volatility of a pair based on an average of their movement over LookBack periods

double pips;
for (int cc = 1; cc < LookBack; cc++)
{
pips+= iHigh(NULL, period, cc) - iLow(NULL, period, cc);
}//for (int cc = 1; cc < LookBack; cc++)...
Nice one Steve,
It agrees with my 5 digit crook now pair for pair!!!

whip

P.S====My 5 digit crook has a 2 digit JPY pair that still has a Vol of 2 digits.....Want to try it on the 5 digit crook????
  • #282
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:31am Aug 30, 2011 10:31am
Quoting hiredwhip
Nice one Steve,
It agrees with my 5 digit crook now pair for pair!!!

whip

P.S====My 5 digit crook has a 2 digit JPY pair that still has a Vol of 2 digits.....Want to try it on the 5 digit crook????
Yes please.

  • #283
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:31am Aug 30, 2011 10:31am
It's just my backtester, or the problem of closing 2 open orders is still there?
I'm backtesting with no SL for Carolco, and they're still not closing.
Or it's a problem just when backtesting, due to GV's?
Maybe I should stop trying to backtest, but I'm really curious about some results...

Also, if SL is in place, original gets closed as per rules....
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  • #284
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:36am Aug 30, 2011 10:36am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Yes please.

Yes.....fixed it and it just sent a trend trade.........Thanks Steve

whip
  • #285
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:37am Aug 30, 2011 10:37am
Quoting hiredwhip
Yes.....fixed it and it just sent a trend trade.........Thanks Steve

whip
Fabulous. I will leave the code in place in future updates.

Cheers

  • #286
  • Aug 30, 2011 3:02pm Aug 30, 2011 3:02pm
Quoting Mediator
i think you have to set the variables for the MinimumTrendTradingVolatility and MaximumRangeTradingVolatility in the Expert without the last 0.

Cheeers

Mediator
This would have also worked, so thanks for this.

  • #287
  • Aug 30, 2011 4:20pm Aug 30, 2011 4:20pm
little story about trade comments.

for about an hour a trade open EURJPY Long with the tradecomment = 'Trend'.

i looked at the daily chart and thought: 'what a f***, this is indicating a range-mode!'. so i spent one hour to dig the code if there is an error in the range or trend module. and i couldn't found some.

the end of story is, look at the EA settings at: RangeTradeComment and for the hedging people at: HedgeTradeComment then you will know what i mean.

but simple for everyone to change this.

be aware of the devil in the detail

Cheeers

Mediator
  • #288
  • Aug 30, 2011 4:30pm Aug 30, 2011 4:30pm
Quoting Mediator
little story about trade comments.

for about an hour a trade open EURJPY Long with the tradecomment = 'Trend'.

i looked at the daily chart and thought: 'what a f***, this is indicating a range-mode!'. so i spent one hour to dig the code if there is an error in the range or trend module. and i couldn't found some.

the end of story is, look at the EA settings at: RangeTradeComment and for the hedging people at: HedgeTradeComment then you will know what i mean.

but simple for everyone to change this.

be aware of the devil in the...
Nice one, Mediator. Or even, nice two.

This is me and my copy/pasting again. I have added fixes to an update in post 1. Not exactly essential, but saves a bit of faffing around with inputs.

  • #289
  • Aug 30, 2011 4:47pm Aug 30, 2011 4:47pm
Quoting Mediator
little story about trade comments.

for about an hour a trade open EURJPY Long with the tradecomment = 'Trend'.

i looked at the daily chart and thought: 'what a f***, this is indicating a range-mode!'. so i spent one hour to dig the code if there is an error in the range or trend module. and i couldn't found some.

the end of story is, look at the EA settings at: RangeTradeComment and for the hedging people at: HedgeTradeComment then you will know what i mean.

but simple for everyone to change this.

be aware of the devil in the...
that was really fun!
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  • #290
  • Aug 31, 2011 1:59am Aug 31, 2011 1:59am
Morning all. I had a sell GBPUSD from 26th August which retraced and was hedged as BB was meant to.

This trade then retraced back to the sell trade and was hovering around here so I thought I would INTERFERE ! just to see what happens as it's the first time I've had a hedge in place with BB.

As it looked like I could get rid of the sell and keep the buy I closed the sell- it was immediately reopened a sell to hedge the buy !!- DUH- forgot to disable BB.

Disabled BB set input value 'Hedging' to false-reloaded it and closed the new sell trade and Voila ! it closed the Buy hedge trade as well, for a big loss.

Can anyone tell me where I went wrong ? This could be critical to get out of a dodgy trade and I wouldn't like to make a balls of it with real money !!!
  • #291
  • Aug 31, 2011 2:39am Aug 31, 2011 2:39am
Rascacio, nothing went wrong, BB is not the perfect tool adapted to every market situation. No EA can do that.
That's why we are testing it to try to improve it as much as we can.
Also, very important is the moment you turn BB on and here comes the personal decision...
BB was primarily designed to be thrown on a chart when a trend has started...it's not a 24 hours EA. It (still) needs human assistance :-)

When I started demo on it, I throwed BB on 14 charts to see what can happen worst...I didn't made any market analysis. But it should be done, before stating BB. BB, as any robot, has a cold logic, Steve has made it to adapt in certain market situations, but it can't be perfect, as we can't predict markets.
Hope that helps...:-)

P.S. Not to mention BB still has some "bloops" that we try to discover and hopefully, Steve will be kind enough to correct them...like the bug of orders closing...
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  • #292
  • Aug 31, 2011 2:41am Aug 31, 2011 2:41am
Quoting Rascacio
Morning all. I had a sell GBPUSD from 26th August which retraced and was hedged as BB was meant to.

This trade then retraced back to the sell trade and was hovering around here so I thought I would INTERFERE ! just to see what happens as it's the first time I've had a hedge in place with BB.

As it looked like I could get rid of the sell and keep the buy I closed the sell- it was immediately reopened a sell to hedge the buy !!- DUH- forgot to disable BB.

Disabled BB set input value 'Hedging' to false-reloaded it and closed the new sell trade...
You probably had one of the other exit strategies enabled. BB found that the remaining trade triggered the exit and so closed the trade.

The general rule with EA's is this: never muck around with a trade manually when you have a trading EA running. If you intervene manually, take the robot of the chart and leave it off.

  • #293
  • Aug 31, 2011 6:29am Aug 31, 2011 6:29am
Quoting SteveHopwood
You probably had one of the other exit strategies enabled. BB found that the remaining trade triggered the exit and so closed the trade.

The general rule with EA's is this: never muck around with a trade manually when you have a trading EA running. If you intervene manually, take the robot of the chart and leave it off.

Fair enough Steve. Just thought I'd ask. I'm crap at hedging anyway !!
  • #294
  • Edited 7:09am Aug 31, 2011 6:42am | Edited 7:09am
Good Morning Steve,
Added that small chunk of code that we put in BB yesterday to the D1 Vol indi for the same reason on my 4 digit broker....It now reads correctly.....If you could check that for me I would appreciate it since It changed the swap reading also but not the spread........

Have a great week

whip

P.S. EDIT===== I forgot BB also shows the swap and it all agrees, so I didn't just make a mess....
  • #295
  • Aug 31, 2011 7:52am Aug 31, 2011 7:52am
Quoting dragosd1
Rascacio, nothing went wrong, BB is not the perfect tool adapted to every market situation. No EA can do that.
That's why we are testing it to try to improve it as much as we can.
Also, very important is the moment you turn BB on and here comes the personal decision...
BB was primarily designed to be thrown on a chart when a trend has started...it's not a 24 hours EA. It (still) needs human assistance :-)

When I started demo on it, I throwed BB on 14 charts to see what can happen worst...I didn't made any market analysis. But it should be...
OK, I hit the SL on a trend trade, NZDCHF, and only made +300 pips

Because of a free margin issues I entered a USDCHF trend trade late and currently I'm looking at a loss because the price has not moved enough for the jumping stop to come into effect and this got me thinking, rare I know.

When BB meets the criteria for a trend trade then check when the trend started. When the trend ends the price must go away from us and so we loss some pips and if we entered the trend too late then we make a loss.
So, we've checked the start of the trend and if that's now we enter and we have the best chance of getting a great profit. if we aren't at the start of the trend or too far in (user defined?) then we don't enter.

Result, more large trend returns and lower losses.

Yes, I'm rambling, but taking into account no EA is set and forget I think this has legs and I've been thinking about the coding and it doesn't seem too difficult, after a couple of reds anyway!

Check back from where we are to see if the trend trade would have been opened/closed. When we encounter a day where either the trade wouldn't have been opened or would have been closed then +1 day and that was the start of the trend, I think? If that day is the current day and the other criteria match then open the trade, otherwise wait and look for a better opportunity.

It looks like I'll have some coding time available tomorrow, down under time, so what does everybody think? Worth doing or needs more thought??

Cheers

Paul
  • #296
  • Aug 31, 2011 8:19am Aug 31, 2011 8:19am
Hi Paul,
I'm using the Cat with trend and Vol indi's at the moment trying to do almost the same thing manually....Don't have enough data as yet but I think your idea is good....

whip
  • #297
  • Aug 31, 2011 8:27am Aug 31, 2011 8:27am
Paul, seems a challenging ideea to put in practice...as I understand, you try to make the EA analize the past market movement? Seems interesting.
Maybe you can code it to observe the previous 5 candles low position relative to the 2 MA's, also correlated with the MA's angle & difference, so it may approximate the middle or end of a trend based on the previous virtual entry and an average value of x (maybe couting how many candles have developed the past trend) candles volatility. Haha, just an ideea...

Meantime, I'm waiting for BB to close these positions and it does not.
Anyone else got same problem?


P.S. This was a late entry!
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  • #298
  • Aug 31, 2011 8:30am Aug 31, 2011 8:30am
Quoting batemap
OK, I hit the SL on a trend trade, NZDCHF, and only made +300 pips

Because of a free margin issues I entered a USDCHF trend trade late and currently I'm looking at a loss because the price has not moved enough for the jumping stop to come into effect and this got me thinking, rare I know.

When BB meets the criteria for a trend trade then check when the trend started. When the trend ends the price must go away from us and so we loss some pips and if we entered the trend too late then we make a loss.
So, we've checked the start of the trend...
This kind of contribution sums up why I share my work so freely here at FF.

Have a look at the attached. I have declared two new constants:
#define upbutuntradable "Up, but not start of trend"
#define downbutuntradable "Down, but not start of trend"

and added this to the Specific Trend trading inputs section:
extern bool OnlyTradeStartOfTrend=true;

Then go to void TrendDetectionModule() and scroll almost to the end of the function to see how I have implemented the check. It should be ok to use the new constants, as BB only ever checks that the trend is not ranging; if not, it looks for trend-trading stuff.

See what you think. If you can do something more sophisticated, then great.

Cheers

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  • #299
  • Aug 31, 2011 8:38am Aug 31, 2011 8:38am
Guys, you're amazing!
Paul, you were thinking, as Steve was closing the editor, hahaha!
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  • #300
  • Aug 31, 2011 8:56am Aug 31, 2011 8:56am
Quoting SteveHopwood
This kind of contribution sums up why I share my work so freely here at FF.

Have a look at the attached. I have declared two new constants:
#define upbutuntradable "Up, but not start of trend"
#define downbutuntradable "Down, but not start of trend"

and added this to the Specific Trend trading inputs section:
extern bool OnlyTradeStartOfTrend=true;

Then go to void TrendDetectionModule() and scroll almost to the end of the function to see how I have implemented the check. It should be ok to use the new constants, as BB only ever checks...
Nice One Steve.....A giant step forward........I'll give it a go on both bots as soon as I get back inside.....

whip
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