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  • #21
  • Jul 15, 2011 4:40am Jul 15, 2011 4:40am
Quoting f451
Steve,

I see why you have a headache. I would never encourage drinking red wine around hard surfaces (like baths).

I think your original suggestion of using fixed monthly or weekly MM lines is a good starting point. But as I understand how things are going to work when MM lines redraw on a new high or low this might not even be an issue. There are a number of possibilities:

1/ bot is currently in a reversi trade from within 5-8 bands
this will already either be in fabulous profit or in deep recovery if a new high or low is being made that would...
Thanks very much. I suggest you post your thoughts here so the Brains Trust can contemplate them.

I have not read your post in detail - scanned it quickly - and so will respond properly Later.

In the meantime, I just had a bath and realised this: we can use Global Variables with a trade ticket number as its name, storing the value or 0 for Reversi trades and 1 for Pippo trades.

With this in place, it will be easy to separate the two trading systems once a trade is open, and allow/ban MM redraws/Recovery/hedging etc accordingly.

More later. Cheers.

  • #22
  • Jul 15, 2011 8:05am Jul 15, 2011 8:05am
Quoting magft
I have set in running on several pairs and a few stops have been raised. One thing i have noticed is on all pairs the MA values are 0 and no trend is displayed, i am using OOTB so was wondering if anyone else sees this, see attached.

I am testing on Go Markets.
I've got 16 pairs open, OOTB and I have no MA values for 4 of them. The 'Calculation candle count' is 2048 the same as the other charts but no ' Candle in series' etc. No statistics. No trend or ranging showing.
This is only on EurChf, EurGbp, EurJpy, GbpUsd.

Smiley face in corner. Reloaded several times. No Idea !!!

Anyone with a similar problem ?
  • #23
  • Jul 15, 2011 8:12am Jul 15, 2011 8:12am
Quoting Rascacio


Anyone with a similar problem ?
Yep, me too. On GBPUSD, EURGBP, EURCHF, EURJPY, EURAUD, EURCAD.
I tried and downloaded the data for one of the missing pairs (F2), but that didnt help.
  • #24
  • Jul 15, 2011 8:36am Jul 15, 2011 8:36am
Quoting Rascacio
I've got 16 pairs open, OOTB and I have no MA values for 4 of them. The 'Calculation candle count' is 2048 the same as the other charts but no ' Candle in series' etc. No statistics. No trend or ranging showing.
This is only on EurChf, EurGbp, EurJpy, GbpUsd.

Smiley face in corner. Reloaded several times. No Idea !!!

Anyone with a similar problem ?
I don't think you will get it unless you are in a Reversi setup

whip
  • #25
  • Jul 15, 2011 10:56am Jul 15, 2011 10:56am
Quoting hiredwhip
I don't think you will get it unless you are in a Reversi setup

whip
Hi Whip, I don't understand what you mean. I have Reversi running by itself on another demo and it is showing all statistics. I have limit orders waiting on a few pairs that are pippo trades and all statistics are present on these charts and they are not 'Reversi' setups.

I should have the trend showing even if it's ranging.

Any further help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
  • #26
  • Jul 15, 2011 5:35pm Jul 15, 2011 5:35pm
Quoting f451
Steve,

I see why you have a headache. I would never encourage drinking red wine around hard surfaces (like baths).

I think your original suggestion of using fixed monthly or weekly MM lines is a good starting point. But as I understand how things are going to work when MM lines redraw on a new high or low this might not even be an issue. There are a number of possibilities:

1/ bot is currently in a reversi trade from within 5-8 bands
this will already either be in fabulous profit or in deep recovery if a new high or low is being made that would...
I have just read this more slowly and agree with you.

If one type of trade is open, then play it to its conclusion.

Sounds like A Plan to me.

Cheers

  • #27
  • Jul 15, 2011 5:38pm Jul 15, 2011 5:38pm
I see my lack of clarity in the screen display is causing problems. I shall try to address some of these issues in time for Monday.

If you are into Pippo trades, then the Reversi screen display is irrelevant and a lot of the calculations it requires are not taking place. I need to suppress the display to stop confusion.

  • #28
  • Jul 15, 2011 6:11pm Jul 15, 2011 6:11pm
Here are my further thoughts for any of you here who have the foggiest idea what is going on.

I am considering the Nuclear Option.

What I mean is this: MM lines are drawn from the hi-lo of the previous MN1 chart. Not the previous month's worth of trading up until today, but the previous MN1 chart. So, the current (July) MM lines would be drawn from the hi-lo of June. No further redraw allowed if there are already trades open. So, if there were trades opened in June that have not closed yet, then the MM lines would still be based on those of the May MN1 chart.

Any comments?

  • #29
  • Jul 16, 2011 8:30am Jul 16, 2011 8:30am
Having read the Pippo thread through once I'm assuming the major issue with MM line redraw is that you can get orphaned or stranded trades...

Why not dump the band levels (i.e. the MM lines at the time the trade was taken) out to GV with the trade and refer to these for evermore for this trade, regardless of how the MM lines redraw?

I realise this could complicate the logic in the code... but it's a thought... of course, I've probably missed something obvious

cheers
f451
  • #30
  • Jul 17, 2011 5:13am Jul 17, 2011 5:13am
Latest update in post 1.

I have adopted a system of Global Variables to store a value in a GV with an open trade's ticket number. The value the GV holds will be:

 

  1. 0 = Reversi trade
  2. 1 = Pippo trade

Rip will display the type of trade it has open as part of the feedback display. When updating Rip, you will have to create the new Global Variables manually (press the F3 key to call up the GV window and experiment from there).

There is a new input in the Pippo section. When set to true (default) FixMmWhenTradeOpen tells Rip not to redraw MM lines when there is Pippo filled trade open. Rip should still redraw/delte etc if the trades are still pending.

The function that reads existing GV's is void ReadOpenTradeGvList(). This is called at startup and at the start of each new candle. Included in the function is a deletion routine to remove orphaned GV's.

void DrawLines() has the redraw abortion code right at the start. Would coders care to check all my logic for bloops; I shall be out this afternoon, so please fix anything obvious and post here; I shall repost in time for the markets opening later on.

I just had a thought. Should we disallow MM redrawing when there is a Reversi trade open as well?

  • #31
  • Jul 17, 2011 10:17pm Jul 17, 2011 10:17pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Here are my further thoughts for any of you here who have the foggiest idea what is going on.

I am considering the Nuclear Option.

What I mean is this: MM lines are drawn from the hi-lo of the previous MN1 chart. Not the previous month's worth of trading up until today, but the previous MN1 chart. So, the current (July) MM lines would be drawn from the hi-lo of June. No further redraw allowed if there are already trades open. So, if there were trades opened in June that have not closed yet, then the MM lines would still be based on those of the...
Droland on the Pippo thread had a good suggestion: send the full sequence of trades (normal plus all recovery trades) as pendings with the original set of MM lines, and delete if not required. That way if the MM lines redraw the sequence including recovery is still in place if needed.

relevant part of the post is here:

".... One is the orphaned trades. Lets say (on a progression of .0.1, 0.02, 0.06 and 0.12) the EA has opened 0.01 then 0.02 but then gets orphaned by the MM Lines changing. I think the EA should continue to make trades at what would have been the 0.06 and 0.12 entry points based on the initial or the starting MM Line formation regardless of what the updated MM Lines indicate. To achieve this, I would suggest that as soon as the first trade is triggered (let's say 0.02 pending trade is triggered), then also immediately enter the 0.06 and the 0.12 Pending Trades. If say the 0.02 trade closes in profit then all the pending would be cancelled as well. If the MM Lines change and all the trades are still pending, then close all the pending trades. If even one of the Pending Trades has been executed then all the Pending Trades remain and open if they are hit and continue until they are closed in profit or otherwise closed (say manually)."

rest here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...51#post4785851
  • #32
  • Edited 1:24am Jul 18, 2011 1:22am | Edited 1:24am
Attachment Good morning everyone. I have an observation that I don't understand. Maybe it's to do with the markets reopening with a lage gap in price.

This is the first time Rip has been running when the markets have reopened and as you can see from the EurChf chart I have a single Pippo BUY taken but it is at 0.12 level. This was taken at 23.00 hrs GMT.

There is a break even line on the chart which I assume shouldn't be there as there is only the one trade. There is a second trade pending but at 0.01 level so the recovery seems to be out of kilter to me.

Can anyone explain or is it just an unexpected aberration due to the market conditions at the time ?

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Cheers
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  • #33
  • Jul 18, 2011 4:44am Jul 18, 2011 4:44am
OK just a couple of observations from my last post. The buy trade hit the blue BE line and changed to red (Recovery trailing stop = true) even though it wasn't a recovery situation !! Closed trade at a few pence profit but red line not deleted automatically.

Cannot open the 'Expert advisors - properties box on this pair now. Is there some sleep feature that I don't know about ? All other pairs appear to be behaving correctly.

I'm a bit bewildered.

Help
  • #34
  • Jul 18, 2011 7:02am Jul 18, 2011 7:02am
CPU usage seems to be really high. This morning before the USA open it was averaging around 50% now it's averaging around 80% and upward. Compared to The Beast which is still plugging away between 4% and 17% depending on the time of day.

Is this the level of CPU usage that we can expect ?

Anyone else noticing the same ?
  • #35
  • Jul 18, 2011 10:12am Jul 18, 2011 10:12am
I have done some more work on Rip today - update in post 1.

I have tidied up the display and expanded on the Global Variables thingy to keep the two systems separate once there are trades open.

This probably needs a new account - either that or set up the globals manually as I explained in post 1.

  • #36
  • Jul 18, 2011 12:24pm Jul 18, 2011 12:24pm
SteveH ..Thx for the update..very excited to try this.

Quoting SteveHopwood
I have done some more work on Rip today - update in post 1.

I have tidied up the display and expanded on the Global Variables thingy to keep the two systems separate once there are trades open.

This probably needs a new account - either that or set up the globals manually as I explained in post 1.

  • #37
  • Jul 18, 2011 12:30pm Jul 18, 2011 12:30pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
I have done some more work on Rip today - update in post 1.

I have tidied up the display and expanded on the Global Variables thingy to keep the two systems separate once there are trades open.

This probably needs a new account - either that or set up the globals manually as I explained in post 1.

Great stuff Steve. This update seems to have reduced the CPU usage massively and the screen display is much tidier. I look forward to watching how it goes.

Thanks a lot Steve.
  • #38
  • Jul 19, 2011 7:18am Jul 19, 2011 7:18am
Hi Steve, it looks like we have a slight problem with the TP/Recovery on a Pippo trade. At 22.37 hrs on 18/7 I had a 0.01 NZDJPY Sell at 66.797 which closed at 22.37 hrs 0n 18/7 at 66.825 for a loss of -0.22 p.

Then on 19/7 at 10.36 hrs a 0.02 sell on NZDJPY at 67.188 which again closed immediately at 10.36 hrs for 67.210 and another slight loss of -0.34 p.

Obviously something is wrong there because if I remember correctly a Pippo trade should not be closed at a loss.

I thought the first trade should have remained open and the second pending also filled as a recovery trade.

I don't know if the update has something to do with it as an earlier NZDJPY sell at 18.04 hrs on the 15/7 behaved correctly and closed at 03.02 on the 18/7 for a profit.

It's not happened on any other pairs. Maybe it's just one of them random things with 'Metatrader' but thought I'd mention it.

Cheers
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  • #39
  • Jul 19, 2011 9:08am Jul 19, 2011 9:08am
Hmmm. Interesting !!
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  • #40
  • Jul 19, 2011 9:11am Jul 19, 2011 9:11am
Quoting Rascacio
Hmmm. Interesting !!
Change the TF back and forth and it will disappear.
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