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  • #22,401
  • Edited 12:48pm Jun 24, 2011 12:34pm | Edited 12:48pm
New SAH type :41 Slow trix cross 0
Green when trix is above 0, red when it is below it, without regard to the color of the trix itself. (i.e it is red when the slow trix is below 0 even if the slow trix itself is green.

If you have never downloaded the SAH before, please read the documentation and download the helper indies from my previous posts.
Quoting ricmi
Need Help

I guess we have a coder who can coding alert for slow trix crossing zero for one of attached version of Trix.
Tnh in advance
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  • #22,402
  • Jun 24, 2011 12:38pm Jun 24, 2011 12:38pm
The SAH is not really part of THV per say, and it doesn't come with rules. I created it for people who want to alerts for different combinations of things.The various versions I post are usually for someone who has requested a particular indicator or combination which they may or may not have tested and found to be profitable

Therefore you are on you about how to trade using it.

Quoting rlpaludo
miss ive put your indis on my chart and looks like the pic below

LONG : price CLOSE > coral > cloud : first and second light are green?

SHORT : price CLOSE < coral < clound : first and second light are red?

thats it ?

how do you place your SL and TP?....thats like thv rules ( 15 pip SL and 10 pip TP ) ?
  • #22,403
  • Jun 24, 2011 2:24pm Jun 24, 2011 2:24pm
Quoting MissPips
The SAH is not really part of THV per say, and it doesn't come with rules. I created it for people who want to alerts for different combinations of things.The various versions I post are usually for someone who has requested a particular indicator or combination which they may or may not have tested and found to be profitable

Therefore you are on you about how to trade using it.

hmm, so we use THV 4 from post 1 and SAH is just extra confirmation, right?
and how about the THV EA, did you use it or are you running it ? no ones post in that thread anymore, they discovered the holy grail or just a fail? hehe

thanks for all
  • #22,404
  • Jun 25, 2011 4:40am Jun 25, 2011 4:40am
Hello, dear participants of a forum!
In advance I apologize for the English as I write through the translator!
I want to thank those who actively developed this branch!
MissPips, you have developed very good indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and to you for these separate thanks!!!
MissPips, I use on schedule 3 of indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and it would be desirable to unite them in one indicator, for this purpose that at coincidence of all colors the sound signal would stand out. Whether probably it to make?
Examples of transactions I put more low.
Thankful in advance to you!
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  • #22,405
  • Jun 25, 2011 1:19pm Jun 25, 2011 1:19pm
Misspips,


I just finished loading the THV system,

Could you please guide me if I loaded it properly:

On the Main Chart:

- THV3 CORAL_THICK
- THV T3 (Im guessing this is the blue cloud line?)

Bottom chart:

- THV3 Trix v4.01 Div
- THV3 Trend

.

Should this be all i need for the basic THV3 system?
how do i get the cloud? (is it THV T3)?
  • #22,406
  • Jun 25, 2011 1:41pm Jun 25, 2011 1:41pm
hi miss pips and everybody!!!

want to thank u for all the sharing work.
i am new around here, so i am trying to get a feel of it and read through some of it...
i know there were guys who had issues with loading some of those indies on chart.
so far i am ok to a degree,,but the one i am most interesdted in - SWIS ARMY ... freezes up my platform the seck a apply it...i use mt4,,,,is there anyway i can overcome this or any tip/fix?
thx in advance for any answer from anybody, cheers
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  • #22,407
  • Jun 25, 2011 2:33pm Jun 25, 2011 2:33pm
Please open a new chart with no other indies and drag this version onto it and let me know it it hangs your mt4

Quoting patient pip
hi miss pips and everybody!!!

want to thank u for all the sharing work.
i am new around here, so i am trying to get a feel of it and read through some of it...
i know there were guys who had issues with loading some of those indies on chart.
so far i am ok to a degree,,but the one i am most interesdted in - SWIS ARMY ... freezes up my platform the seck a apply it...i use mt4,,,,is there anyway i can overcome this or any tip/fix?
thx in advance for any answer from anybody, cheers
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  • #22,408
  • Jun 25, 2011 2:38pm Jun 25, 2011 2:38pm
Easiest thing to do is just download V3 zip and use the template in that. That should configure the blue cloud for you. On the top chart you should see the Coral (the red and green MA), and the blue Ichimoku cloud. The T3 is from an older version and isn't used now. On the bottom you should see tht trix. Optionally you can add the THV HA candles if you like them. The manuals in the Manuals and Optional zip should answer any other questions you have.

Quoting laciera
Misspips,


I just finished loading the THV system,

Could you please guide me if I loaded it properly:

On the Main Chart:

- THV3 CORAL_THICK
- THV T3 (Im guessing this is the blue cloud line?)

Bottom chart:

- THV3 Trix v4.01 Div
- THV3 Trend

.

Should this be all i need for the basic THV3 system?
how do i get the cloud? (is it THV T3)?
  • #22,409
  • Jun 25, 2011 2:58pm Jun 25, 2011 2:58pm
The etype numbers don't change, so if you liked the ones in 4.51 you can just use those numbers in the future version ( with the exception of type 37 which was a duplicate of type 32 by mistake and which I have now reused as the Coral and Cloud together. Usually the difference in versions is that I have added some new indicator that someone has requested or some new option.

I don'[t make recommendations about how to use the SAH. It is for the convenience of people who want to try different combinations of things and get alerts. It's up to you to decide how you want to use it.

Quoting Forex.wo.io
Hi MissPips, SAH 4.51 was really profitable with higher tf helps.

But new version has many options. And I've 2 questions if u let me ask.

1) Which types (in SAH 4.55) are equal with SAH 4.51's 4 indis?
- M1 3MAs narrow&expanding
- 3 MAs in order
- M5 DImin vals
- M5 fast

2) Which types of light should we use for M1 scalps? Should we add new indis to this 4 ones? If yes, which types do u recommend?

Thank you very much, sincerely...
  • #22,410
  • Edited 3:26pm Jun 25, 2011 3:14pm | Edited 3:26pm
The SAH is mainly so you can get alerts if you want to try something that is not part of the standard THV. For example some people like to trade when the slow trix crosses zero, some when the fast trix does, some when they have confirmation from an additional indicator like the ADX.
I never used the THV EA. I personally consider THV to be not a system, but a method, consisting of the following three parts:

1) Identify a trend
2) Wait for a dip in an uptrend or a top in a downtrend
3) Enter when PA comes out of the dip/top and resumes in the direction of the trend.

THV uses the Coral ( to identify the trend) and the trix and cloud to identify the dips/tops and resumption of trend, but there are many methods that apply the same principles.

However in order for any of them to work you need to be able to identify when the market is trending verses ranging, and where you are in the trend, so that you can buy/sell a good dip/top. (In otherwords, in most cases you want to buy a dip near the start/middle of a trend and you dont want to buy a dip just as the market nears the end of the ADR and is two pips away from a place where there have been pinbar reversals the last two times it got there, and you don't want to buy/sell trix crosses when the market is flat and consolidating or when it is about to enter an area where it is going to consolidate.

I think that ability to distinguish between those situations comes with screen time and experience and is very difficult to incorporate in an EA. (Just consider how much money banks and funds have to pay their top traders. If it were possible to write an EA which would consistantly make money whenever it was applied in any market conditions, why would they bother paying for traders. They'd just get the EA and apply it wouldn't they?)

Quoting rlpaludo
hmm, so we use THV 4 from post 1 and SAH is just extra confirmation, right?
and how about the THV EA, did you use it or are you running it ? no ones post in that thread anymore, they discovered the holy grail or just a fail? hehe

thanks for all
  • #22,411
  • Jun 25, 2011 3:24pm Jun 25, 2011 3:24pm
It's not possible to make this type of on/off indicator with more than four rows (that I know of) because mt4 limits you to 8 buffers per indicator. In order to get more you either have to write an EA or a dashboard type indicator which can show more things, but not the progression over time. Both selller9 and arunsideas have written those types, if you are not interested in seeing how things are progressing over time. If you ever see one of these types of on/off indicators with more than four rows let me know.

Quoting sdv.tlt
Hello, dear participants of a forum!
In advance I apologize for the English as I write through the translator!
I want to thank those who actively developed this branch!
MissPips, you have developed very good indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and to you for these separate thanks!!!
MissPips, I use on schedule 3 of indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and it would be desirable to unite them in one indicator, for this purpose that at coincidence of all colors the sound signal would stand out. Whether probably it to make?
Examples of transactions I put more low.
Thankful...
  • #22,412
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:50am Jun 26, 2011 2:50am
Quoting MissPips
It's not possible to make this type of on/off indicator with more than four rows (that I know of) because mt4 limits you to 8 buffers per indicator. In order to get more you either have to write an EA or a dashboard type indicator which can show more things, but not the progression over time. Both selller9 and arunsideas have written those types, if you are not interested in seeing how things are progressing over time. If you ever see one of these types of on/off indicators with more than four rows let me know.
MissPips, thanks that have answered! I have understood you if suddenly I will meet such indicator that I will by all means let to you know! Once again to you my gratitude for such good indicator!
  • #22,413
  • Jun 26, 2011 9:27am Jun 26, 2011 9:27am
Quoting sdv.tlt
Hello, dear participants of a forum!
In advance I apologize for the English as I write through the translator!
I want to thank those who actively developed this branch!
MissPips, you have developed very good indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and to you for these separate thanks!!!
MissPips, I use on schedule 3 of indicator SwissArmyMixedhisto and it would be desirable to unite them in one indicator, for this purpose that at coincidence of all colors the sound signal would stand out. Whether probably it to make?
Examples of transactions I put more...
Hello Sdv.tlt
You have very nice candels. What indicators do you use? Could you send your indicators ?

Thanks.
  • #22,414
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:10am Jun 26, 2011 11:10am
I tried downloading the manual - but am informed by winzip that its corrupted - can someone reupload it pretty please?
  • #22,415
  • Jun 26, 2011 1:50pm Jun 26, 2011 1:50pm
Quoting bishopdotun
You need to be sure of the style of trade you want to stick to. There are different modes for this wonderfull THV system. I dont scalp so my setup is usually on a longterm outlook.

For quick entry: M15 fast-M15 slow-M30 fast-H1 fast must all show green for buy or red for sell. Other rules apply for coral and cloud. Exit when M30 fast changes colour. Too much noise on M15 fast for exit.

The entry and exit is however subjective depending on how well you have mastered the system.
Hi Bishop. Thanks for sharing your approach. Doyou use the M15 as described above for your longer term trades?

Thanks!
Sandy
  • #22,416
  • Jun 27, 2011 3:06am Jun 27, 2011 3:06am
Quoting MissPips
Please open a new chart with no other indies and drag this version onto it and let me know it it hangs your mt4

thx tons for yr help miss pips....
it looks like what u c on the picture....was waiting for life conditions in believe it could change its look//
the platform doesnt freeze up though.....
can u pls shed some light on this hold back with freezing mt4 platform ? i guess yr indies are designed for other platform and u have to tweak the language a bit?
i wish i could do that myself not to bug u.
cause there is one more indi /// THV4 TRIX MTF , attached/// i am keen to try but the same trouble like with the SWISS,freezing up my mt4 in a split second i apply it. it hurts my mouth to ask u for one more favor to look at this indi...
there will b no more indies that i will bug u with as i feel sorry already now. i promise.
// its frustrating to c method/system and not b able to try it and c it at work//
thx a lot again
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  • #22,417
  • Edited 4:12am Jun 27, 2011 3:14am | Edited 4:12am
I am having trouble understanding your post.

1. Are you saying that the version of the SAH that I requested that you download to a clean chart does NOT freeze your platform? If that is the case, please try some other etypes (0 and 1 for example) but keep the period the same as the chart. If this still doesn't freeze the platform then I think the reason it may be causing your platform to freeze is that you were calling indicators for timeframes that you don't have the history downloaded for. The latest version (previous to the one I asked you to download to a clean chart) was set to automatically look at the 3 higher timeframes up from the chart you used it on. So if you didn't have the history open dowloaded for those, then the platform could freeze while it downloads them for all those timeframes for whatever number of bars in chart you have your mt4 set to and if this is a very large number then that could take a long time. Another reason it could freeze is if you are using a very large number of bars on your chart, even if you already have the history downloaded. The SAH just calls other indicators and some of those are not very efficient, so if you have a large number of bars on your chart and you call a lot of the inefficient indicators then the platform can also freeze, depending on how strong your computer is.

The reason that I asked you to download THAT particular version of the SAH is that it looks at only tf 0 ( the chart you put it on), and only calls MAs supplied by MT4 which are efficient. Since this one works, it shows that the problem is not witht he SAH code but either with the history not being downloaded, or with more indicators that are inefficient being called than your CPU can support or that you didn't download the helper indicators that go with the SAH indicator.



2. What is it you want me do look at about the indicator you uploaded? Do you mean that it also causes the m4 to freeze. Then it can be one of four causes

1) You dont have the history for the higher timeframes that it calls (M5 and M15 downloaded)

2) You do have the history downloaded but you have a very large number of bars in your chart . (This isn't likely though because I limited the MTF trix to 750 bars anyway)

3) You have an old computer and a lot of other charts with a lot of history open. This mtf indicator calls the trix four times and the trix is not very efficient so if your computer is old and you have a lot of other stuff open that could be a problem.

4) You didn't download the helper indicator that it needs.


The code for this one ( even though I don't have it for V4 ) is very similar to the SAH, so if the problem gets solved for one of them it should get solved for the other.
Quoting patient pip
thx tons for yr help miss pips....
done it,and it looks like what u c on the picture....was waiting for life conditions in believe it could change its look//
the platform doesnt freeze up though.....
can u pls shed some light on this hold back with freezing mt4 platform ? i guess yr indies are designed for other platform and u have to tweak the language a bit?
i wish i could do that myself not to bug u.
cause there is one more indi /// THV4 TRIX MTF , attached/// i am keen to try but the same trouble like with the SWISS,freezing up my mt4 in a split...
  • #22,418
  • Jun 27, 2011 4:28am Jun 27, 2011 4:28am
Quoting MissPips
I am having trouble understanding your post.

4) You didn't download the helper indicator that it needs.


The code for this one ( even though I don't have it for V4 ) is very similar to the SAH, so if the problem gets solved for one of them it should get solved for the other.
thx, sent u pm
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  • #22,419
  • Edited 6:02am Jun 27, 2011 5:49am | Edited 6:02am
Quoting patient pip
thx, sent u pm
Hi George,

If you feel like it please drag this one onto a clean chart and let me know if your computer hangs.

Everyone else - don't bother downloading this. It's just to help diagnose why PatientPips mt4 is hanging.
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  • #22,420
  • Jun 27, 2011 6:43am Jun 27, 2011 6:43am
Quoting MissPips
Hi George,

If you feel like it please drag this one onto a clean chart and let me know if your computer hangs.

Everyone else - don't bother downloading this. It's just to help diagnose why PatientPips mt4 is hanging.

woala :-)

excellent, it works great
thx a lot for yr help, hats off to u
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