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  • Jun 4, 2011 2:28pm Jun 4, 2011 2:28pm
  •  juhanimi
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 2,293 Posts
Quoting duyk20
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People make it from other sound methods because they are experienced enough to have an edge from market, the edge could be discipline, money management,.. but VSA is special, trading with VSA, we are tracking the SM, we are peeing with the big dogs and the SM don't like it because they profit from our losses. Once too many get to know this method, SM have to adjust to other method to make sure that only a few get money from this market. This day, those tradeguider guys will go broke.
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I am not sure, but believe Wykcoff started in 1920`s.
 
 
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  • Jun 4, 2011 2:34pm Jun 4, 2011 2:34pm
  •  pres78
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Quoting duyk20
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Once too many get to know this method, SM have to adjust to other method to make sure that only a few get money from this market. This day, those tradeguider guys will go broke.
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SM traders aren't trading using VSA so them adjusting to another method won't affect VSA. SM manipulating their movements so that volume becomes useless or brokers removing their volume feeds all together are the only was to affect VSA.

If traders here are worried about VSA not working anymore leave forex and start to trade futures only, these are more regulated and it's easier to trust their feeds / data. TG already knows this and therefore they won't go broke... they will keep making money trading long after their trading software becomes useless. They have already made their small fortune selling / renting software to traders who feel they need the signals identified rather than finding a high liquity / reliable broker and learning VSA for themselves.

Anyway this thread is dead. Very few charts shared anymore, not even much for trading discussions. Obviously everyone here has mastered VSA and are all making lots of money now so no one needs to learn or share anymore.

Best of luck to anyone left here that was trying to learn VSA... hope you have your copy of MTM handy.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
 
 
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  • Jun 4, 2011 2:53pm Jun 4, 2011 2:53pm
  •  ZootSuit
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Let me remind the dopes that think removing volume is a possibility... Forex is tick data. Carry on.
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  •  pres78
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Quoting ZootSuit
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Deflated egos are the only things keeping people quiet here. Any one that thinks vsa will cease to work because more people know about it is a retard. The very notion of what vsa is precludes that way of thinking.
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Quoting ZootSuit
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Let me remind the dopes that think removing volume is a possibility... Forex is tick data. Carry on.
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Take another few months off from posting and come back again... these are priceless.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
 
 
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  •  Intel
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Quoting ZootSuit
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.......... The very notion of what vsa is precludes that way of thinking.
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Quoting ZootSuit
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Let me remind the dopes that think removing volume is a possibility... Forex is tick data. Carry on.
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Not a very subtle way of putting it. However, he/she is quite correct on both counts.
 
 
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  • Jun 4, 2011 3:42pm Jun 4, 2011 3:42pm
  •  HiddenGap
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Quoting juhanimi
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In Gavin`s new free book, I think there is that kind of VSA setup in that where I wanted to go long. p.18 sequence 4.
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As I said, more power to you.

I prefer to surrender to the market, to mirror it, to follow it. I want to want what the market wants. I want to be long when the market is going up and short when it is going down.

Almost the same situation in the ES on friday. From my perspective, the place to get long was when the Chart Mode was in BUY but more importanly, when there was a No Supply bar in to a trigger level (c) with left-side (background) strength.

You could even get in at the test below the trigger if you have an itchy trigger finger.
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  • Jun 4, 2011 7:13pm Jun 4, 2011 7:13pm
  •  Pipstrumpf
  • | Joined Mar 2010 | Status: Member | 408 Posts
Guys,

Firstly I would like to thank you all for the tremendous information provided in this thread, keep it alive.
Regarding brokers withholding volume, I would really not worry about that as it has been there since decades at it is a basic numerical information since humans have traded goods only in this days most people rather use other more fancy indi's so the chart looks good.
In my opinion volume is there to stay having said that trading conditions can be changed over night by the exchanges as we have witnessed lately in the Bullion market or by the government forcing brokers to adjust their trading account terms in the name of protecting the retail traders.
By the way just go on to the famous EUR/USD thread here on FF and you will notice that volume will be of rare occurrence, so the SM's are really not worried about that in contrary they get extra help in pushing prices by the few applying VSA .

Cheers
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 5:16am Jun 5, 2011 5:16am
  •  gez40
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Quoting lolpie
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That was awesome

This is just as good but in a different way
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This is more like it
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...for me anyway.
Seek not to change the world; seek only to change your mind about the world
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 7:40am Jun 5, 2011 7:40am
  •  juhanimi
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 2,293 Posts
SM is doing same in forex?

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  • Jun 5, 2011 7:53am Jun 5, 2011 7:53am
  •  juhanimi
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lol

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  • Jun 5, 2011 8:44am Jun 5, 2011 8:44am
  •  juhanimi
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 2,293 Posts
How much I like Pizza Hut?

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  •  KinsaleForex
  • Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Looking at a few more charts... | 1,195 Posts
Are you trying to get your post count up to 1000 or something?
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 9:13am Jun 5, 2011 9:13am
  •  juhanimi
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 2,293 Posts
No, that is just amazing how we can be manipulated.
Like in that Derrens expiriment, these guys are ad pros and they are doing everything as Derren wants wants them to do.
And selling pizza is business, and how serious it is when you implant ads so that people does not even know that they have seen ad.
And forex is business 2, biggest business.
Isn`t this like a sales speech, and why these moving texts in background.


http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...164404071.html
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 9:40am Jun 5, 2011 9:40am
  •  juhanimi
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I dont know if this is true, what this guy is telling, but there are some serious studyies that sais it works.

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  • Jun 5, 2011 9:49am Jun 5, 2011 9:49am
  •  juhanimi
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EU-H8

Somekind of level and ND.
And experts is telling us in news to buy euro.
Letīs see, what that is.
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  • Jun 5, 2011 2:01pm Jun 5, 2011 2:01pm
  •  pipon
  • | Joined Mar 2011 | Status: Member | 190 Posts
Quoting juhanimi
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EU-H8
Somekind of level and ND.
And experts is telling us in news to buy euro.
Letīs see, what that is.
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Hi juhanimi , this is a price level to watch, but IMHO the last 4-5 hour of the week cant really point as a ND.. with asia and europe in the weekend.

The daily has a lower vol then the last 3 days , but thats a normal friday (I do not have the esignal feed ) and with 145 pips up I also do not think its a ND.
but lets see...
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 2:09pm Jun 5, 2011 2:09pm
  •  HiddenGap
  • Joined Aug 2009 | Status: Reading the tape | 2,324 Posts
This is a nice chart and I just wanted a place to put it. The fact that there is an error on a different thread is mere coincidence .
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  • Jun 5, 2011 4:07pm Jun 5, 2011 4:07pm
  •  pres78
  • Joined Sep 2010 | Status: I'm not here... or am I? | 3,990 Posts
Quoting HiddenGap
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This is a nice chart and I just wanted a place to put it. The fact that there is an error on a different thread is mere coincidence .
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Great another VSA thread... there you go everyone can jump over there and learn all they need to know. Another short cut of not really learning VSA.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 5:03pm Jun 5, 2011 5:03pm
  •  Clifton
  • | Joined Nov 2010 | Status: .:9:. | 173 Posts
lol, you guys kill me.
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2011 10:38pm Jun 5, 2011 10:38pm
  •  Fusion
  • | Joined Apr 2009 | Status: Member | 426 Posts
Can someone please share a reliable Market Profile Indi.
Thanks
 
 
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