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  • #15,781
  • Edited 2:12am May 14, 2011 1:56am | Edited 2:12am
Quoting FXArtist
Nice way to hide behind the famous "LOL"...
c'mon, man up don't be shy and just go for one of these .. knock yourself out..


Just like I expacted.. a sound reply back is way beyond your capabilities... you should have remained silent.

You have not made a dime in your life in trading, its just too obvious. what?? you say NO.. you are profitable!!!... ok, good for you.. but, back it up or don't mention it at all... show it? before you preach the preacher.. or at least learn the ability to expalin a thing or two without copy pasting...

Man (or woman).... do you want to post here - please - do it! Do you want to teach someone - please - do it! do you want to show you are clever man - you are not at all..... What I have seen in your posts is,... sorry - NOTHING.

If you will talk with me in this manner - it would be not healthy for you, sorry, but I shoud say this.

Who are you - my friend, or??? I do not know you... so - before talk with me in such a manner - think at first.

I do not remember that I have read in rules of this forum that one junior member would have to talk with others members in such a manner.

You can trade - I am glad. Do it... just for yourself... Do you want to tell something to others - do it....

If you wait that I will say something more about trading - you are wrong.
I told a lot about treding concept for now. So - think for yourself, practice and you will have the success....

Ir your mission here is nothing more than to just ask others how to trade.

Listen man - no one is obliged here to spoon others. It is business. You want I tell you everuthing for free? He-he...

Ok... just trade... or teach others. From now I count you in the list of not deserved for answers people.

You win! lol.....
  • #15,782
  • Edited 8:43am May 14, 2011 2:11am | Edited 8:43am
Quoting iak
This system is a very stressfull system as you have to be glued to your screen for fear of missing that one trade that will run and make up the numerous losses you have picked up that day or week even. It has its merits too though.



Dim are you making regular profit now?

You did not get what is this system if you think it is stressful. If you have 2 or 3 trade during the day - it is not stressfull at all. Juts trade it how Mаster told - at the London open and at the New-Yourk open. If you will see centrifugal move between that times - well you could trade it too.
If you will trade the pther system which is also here - FCR - you will have stressful trading for sure. But still - you could make pips with that.


I am profitable. I trade levels at 30 min. chart, I trade DIBS at high TFs, and I trade System II the way I told you - during market opens. And I test Overnight baracket trading now. That's it. Tradign is not hard. It is just boring.

Good luck!
  • #15,783
  • May 15, 2011 10:35pm May 15, 2011 10:35pm
too serious atmosphere ,
here from old post for you to laugh.

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Just making sure my trigger finger doesn't get near the laptop !

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  • #15,784
  • May 16, 2011 3:14am May 16, 2011 3:14am
I try to use pure system ii ,
maybe this is useful for you and me.
Please do comment , base on system ii

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  • #15,785
  • May 16, 2011 3:16am May 16, 2011 3:16am
Quoting Musanto
too serious atmosphere ,
here from old post for you to laugh.
Couldn't agree more Musanto.

Group Hug
  • #15,786
  • May 16, 2011 3:24am May 16, 2011 3:24am
Short @1.40836 result -13
Long @1.4111 result -12
Long @1.4111 result +36

total still + 11 pips.

I don't know how, if one can just profitable by taking only 20 pips/trade.
How to survive from the unavoidable loss ?
  • #15,787
  • May 16, 2011 3:39am May 16, 2011 3:39am
Quoting tritan
Couldn't agree more Musanto.
Group Hug
Hi Tritan, and other system ii lover.
please post to make this thread back alive.
I'm not guru here, but I know some stuff.
Let's dig system ii together.
This is a profitable system.

You right Dim, no need Trend line, and not fcr too.
only 123
  • #15,788
  • May 16, 2011 3:51am May 16, 2011 3:51am
Quoting Musanto
Short @1.40836 result -13
Long @1.4111 result -12
Long @1.4111 result +36

total still + 11 pips.

I don't know how, if one can just profitable by taking only 20 pips/trade.
How to survive from the unavoidable loss ?
exactly my point bud.. the answer is NO.. you can not avoid the unavoidable losses.

here is the deal..
unless one has the ability to produce a perfect or a very high hit ratio, then one can be satisfied with a 20 pips profit..
in order to get a 20 pips profit avg.. one needs to lay at least 20pips on the line in order to reach that profit avg (pa development time).. which leaves you at a risk of geting hit with SL's.

now the question is can one be perfect?... lol... its obvious that can not be done and everyone will get their fair share of losses.. and because of none ability of avoiding the UNAVOIDABL losses, a sound planing needs to be inplace in order to squeez out a consistent winning results at end of the week, months, year.


good trading Musanto.

ps) one question.. what was your short trade based on? and if you could elaborate on your exit strategy it would nice.
thanks.
  • #15,789
  • May 16, 2011 4:01am May 16, 2011 4:01am
Quoting FXArtist
exactly my point bud.. the answer is NO.. you can not avoid the unavoidable losses.here is the deal..unless one has the ability to produce a perfect or a very high hit ratio, then one can be satisfied with a 20 pips profit..in order to get a 20 pips profit avg.. one needs to lay at least 20pips on the line in order to reach that profit avg (pa development time).. which leaves you at a risk of geting hit with SL's.now the question is can one be perfect?... lol... its obvious that can not be done and everyone will get their fair share of losses.....
agree
thank's FXartist.

I chase for runner, to cover the losses.
runner mentality is still relevant here
  • #15,790
  • May 16, 2011 4:07am May 16, 2011 4:07am
Quoting FXArtist
ps) one question.. what was your short trade based on? and if you could elaborate on your exit strategy it would nice.
thanks.
look at the picture below,
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  • #15,791
  • May 16, 2011 4:14am May 16, 2011 4:14am
Quoting Musanto
look at the picture below,
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about exit strategy,
I'm still need a lot to learn.
The exit before the price go, I learn fxachiles stuff.
But after the price run for 20 or more,
Sometime it's very intuitive.

I will show in next trade if possible.
  • #15,792
  • May 16, 2011 4:24am May 16, 2011 4:24am
Quoting dim4ik42
Man (or woman).... do you want to post here - please - do it! Do you want to teach someone - please - do it! do you want to show you are clever man - you are not at all..... What I have seen in your posts is,... sorry - NOTHING.

If you will talk with me in this manner - it would be not healthy for you, sorry, but I shoud say this.

Who are you - my friend, or??? I do not know you... so - before talk with me in such a manner - think at first.

I do not remember that I have read in rules of this forum that one junior member would have to talk...
I don't want to drag a uselss argument with pretty much a pointless person.. but could not help myself to highlight the largest bogus that this guy has mentioned so far out of so many.

quote: You want I tell you everuthing for free? He-he...

listen bro... If you had learned anything from him.. it should have been the opposit of that... bcz he planted this thread based on GIVING and karma.. I for sure don't need any of it from you bcz you got none to offer.. but out in the open, it pretty much sums up the kind of person that you are.. you really have got the concept.. lol.


Good luck man.. bcz you need it big time.
  • #15,793
  • May 16, 2011 4:31am May 16, 2011 4:31am
Quoting Musanto
look at the picture below,
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Thanks bud..
I was just not sure that a 22 pips swing with a small PB is good enough or impulsive enough to count as a solid 123 setup.. it looked to me as a FCR which you said its better to avoid.

Thanks for both answers.
  • #15,794
  • May 16, 2011 4:39am May 16, 2011 4:39am
Quoting FXArtist
Thanks bud..
I was just not sure that a 22 pips swing with a small PB is good enough or impulsive enough to count as a solid 123 setup.. it looked to me as a FCR which you said its better to avoid.

Thanks for both answers.
I trade the 18 pips swing (May12) and gave profit 60 pips
I think about the swing,
we cannot put this as written on stone (as feb said)
  • #15,795
  • May 16, 2011 4:51am May 16, 2011 4:51am
Quoting Musanto
I trade the 18 pips swing (May12) and gave profit 60 pips
I think about the swing,
we cannot put this as written on stone (as feb said)
sure..
but if you don't mind me asking in order to clear my head..
how do you choose as to when to take and not to take the smaller swing setups??.. thats my difficulty.. if you could help it would be great with a sound discription.
(bcz.. i see alot of them turn into big profits and alot of them don't and it turns into loss after losses)


Thank you.
  • #15,796
  • May 16, 2011 4:56am May 16, 2011 4:56am
I am looking to take action on this short setup.
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  • #15,797
  • May 16, 2011 5:06am May 16, 2011 5:06am
Quoting FXArtist
sure..
but if you don't mind me asking in order to clear my head..
how do you choose as to when to take and not to take the smaller swing setups??.. thats my difficulty.. if you could help it would be great with a sound discription.
(bcz.. i see alot of them turn into big profits and alot of them don't and it turns into loss after losses)
Thank you.
You are using fractal indicator, that's why you have so many fractal and so many entries. Try to spot it , use naked chart. I mark it with the red line, see the way i put it. By this way not many possible entries I can get.

Streak losses, yes I experience this many times and Dim too, whoever trade this system ii and at worst fcr stuff will experience streak looses. Please don't blame others for not sharing more, because even if he only say that he is profitable using system ii, still a precious sharing.
  • #15,798
  • May 16, 2011 5:08am May 16, 2011 5:08am
Quoting FXArtist
I am looking to take action on this short setup.
I wait for fractal at 96, good luck
  • #15,799
  • Edited 5:44am May 16, 2011 5:25am | Edited 5:44am
Quoting Musanto
You are using fractal indicator, that's why you have so many fractal and so many entries. Try to spot it , use naked chart. I mark it with the red line, see the way i put it. By this way not many possible entries I can get.

Streak losses, yes I experience this many times and Dim too, whoever trade this system ii and at worst fcr stuff will experience streak looses. Please don't blame others for not sharing more, because even if he only say that he is profitable using system ii, still a precious sharing.

if you pay attention.. i do not trade every fractals.. i dont even trade the fractal.. its just there for clearity of 123.

fractal, naked eye, red/blue orange pink horizantal lines or however.. a 18/20 or smal swing is a small swing... my question to you was how do you pick the difference between winner ones and loser ones... when your trading small swings your basically trading FCR.. either you trade it or you don't... unless you got a magical way to cherry pick them... thats what i want to know if you may be kind enough to share!!.. thats all..

by the way... i don't balme or force anyone to help.. but if one decides to help must know how to not talk out of his arshhh.. lol


ps) one being profitable or not is not precious... one being able to transfer that success to another is precious.. think about it folks.
  • #15,800
  • Edited 6:03am May 16, 2011 5:48am | Edited 6:03am
Quoting FXArtist
if you pay attention.. i do not trade every fractals.. i dont even trade the fractal.. its just there for clearity of 123.

fractal, naked eye, red/blue orange pink horizantal lines or however.. a 18/20 or smal swing is a small swing... my question to you was how do you pick the difference between winner ones and loser ones......

My swing is identified from a fractal broke,
that's why fractal is important.
I take every swing and entry every 123 break not fcr.
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