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  • #7,361
  • May 13, 2011 2:25pm May 13, 2011 2:25pm
Quoting PoundTrader
justin is this tru you now except credit card / debit card for deposits?
Yes. You can access the funding option via the client secure area.
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  • #7,362
  • May 13, 2011 2:43pm May 13, 2011 2:43pm
Quoting jleblang
Yes. You can access the funding option via the client secure area.
thank you about time
  • #7,363
  • May 13, 2011 3:22pm May 13, 2011 3:22pm
Quoting jleblang
Yes. You can access the funding option via the client secure area.
how will a new customer know about this if you only have it with people with current account? you should post it on the website
  • #7,364
  • May 13, 2011 3:24pm May 13, 2011 3:24pm
Quoting PoundTrader
how will a new customer know about this if you only have it with people with current account? you should post it on the website
The website along with all "welcome" emails sent to new customers are in the process of being updated.
  • #7,365
  • May 13, 2011 3:26pm May 13, 2011 3:26pm
Quoting jleblang
The website along with all "welcome" emails sent to new customers are in the process of being updated.
  • #7,366
  • May 14, 2011 1:39am May 14, 2011 1:39am
Quoting jleblang
Wwwin,

Well, I guess if one person said it on a board, it must be true. Of course we don’t intentionally make Meta work badly, as smittens4212 said, what would be the point? It’s 8 year old software that we can’t recode, so the other post that you referenced is also incorrect…no one here at MBT is coding MT4. And regarding your earlier post, I ask people to send me their account details in private so that I can look at issues that they might have. I suppose you would prefer if they post their real names and account numbers for all to read?

Sorry if Im incorrect,
but as I remember, it was written on your website before,
it said you had to recode MT4 in order to work properly on your ECN,
it said you ripped all the MM stuff out so now/then it was purely a ECN platform.
I have no bad intentions and have no reason to lie,
if thats wrong or if I remember incorrectly, then I must apologize,
based on that stuff, I assumed you had your own coders,
may I ask who developed the MBT desktop?
isn't that your own work?
ofcource I understand you don't intentionally make Meta work badly,
Im sure anyone can understand that,
Im not accusing you for anything
I think MBT is a OK broker,
and all I want is a working trading platform,
and if it isn't working I expect something to be done about it,
for your information I have been in contact with the support over this issue many times,
and after each time they said "it's fixed now"
but it wasn't, same thing happend to me again and again,
after serveral trials I just gave it up,
I wont be using it again untill the matter is really fixed.
or a word from you that you are working on the problem.
I know Im not the only one experiencing this,
Im using MT4 with another broker and I have no problems at all.
it's only MBTs MT4. so apparently something is wrong with it.
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #7,367
  • May 14, 2011 11:05am May 14, 2011 11:05am
When i originally opened my MBT account I selected MT4 as the platform. Can I switch over to MBT Desktop easily without creating a new account?

I did download the MBT D software but my understanding is I cannot use it for order entry on a MT4 account.
  • #7,368
  • May 15, 2011 2:43am May 15, 2011 2:43am
Quoting mediaboy
When i originally opened my MBT account I selected MT4 as the platform. Can I switch over to MBT Desktop easily without creating a new account?

I did download the MBT D software but my understanding is I cannot use it for order entry on a MT4 account.
you are correct sir, you must create new acount for MBT desktop pro,
I have no idea why though,
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #7,369
  • May 16, 2011 1:39am May 16, 2011 1:39am
Quoting roughtrader
you are correct sir, you must create new acount for MBT desktop pro,
I have no idea why though,
Read back on this thread, all is explained.
  • #7,370
  • May 16, 2011 10:36am May 16, 2011 10:36am
Quoting roughtrader
Sorry if Im incorrect,
but as I remember, it was written on your website before,
it said you had to recode MT4 in order to work properly on your ECN,
it said you ripped all the MM stuff out so now/then it was purely a ECN platform.
I have no bad intentions and have no reason to lie,
if thats wrong or if I remember incorrectly, then I must apologize,
based on that stuff, I assumed you had your own coders,
may I ask who developed the MBT desktop?
isn't that your own work?
ofcource I understand you don't intentionally make Meta work badly,
Im...
Roughtrader,

Sorry, but I have no way from that post of knowing what your issues with our MT4 is. We have plenty of accounts that run trades all day long on MT4 without issues. Can you be more specific? If it requires that I look at your account number or EA, please provide details in private. What is the issue exactly? If you are trading manually, then why would you want to go back to MT4 if you switched to our Desktop software and aren’t having any problems.

Let me be clear again about MT4. It is almost a decade old. We stripped out all of the deal desk functionality in bridging it to our ECN. If it works with another broker for you, especially without changes to your EA, then doesn’t that sort of explain that your other broker is a deal desk that is just using MT4 as it is designed (as a deal desk)? I could ask you several more questions that could pinpoint specifically how any other broker is set up to execute with MT4, but that isn’t the point. What exactly is the problem that you keep having, because we seem to have so many accounts that aren’t having a problem? If you have an EA, then yes, there are certain components that might have to be written differently to execute through us, specifically when it comes to 5 decimal places and Instant Executions, but this is all documented. Please tell me, either in public or private, exactly what the issue is that you have with our MT4 but not with our own software and I will dig into it.
  • #7,371
  • May 16, 2011 10:36am May 16, 2011 10:36am
Quoting mediaboy
When i originally opened my MBT account I selected MT4 as the platform. Can I switch over to MBT Desktop easily without creating a new account?

I did download the MBT D software but my understanding is I cannot use it for order entry on a MT4 account.
Mediaboy,

MT4 has 4 order types. Our platform has 28. The extra 24 order types…MT4 doesn’t speak the language (is the short way of explaining it). When you trade with us and choose to use MT4, we have to give you an account that only speaks MT4’s limited language because the rest wouldn’t work and would mess up your account. If you want to use Desktop instead, you need an account that doesn’t speak to Meta and instead allows a fully-functional MBT Desktop account with all order types. I’m simplifying, but I’m hoping that explains the situation. If you need more detail, please let me know. The bottom line is that if you want an account that works from our main account level (MBT Desktop or Desktop Pro) instead of the MT4 level, you have to open an account that way.
  • #7,372
  • May 16, 2011 7:29pm May 16, 2011 7:29pm
As the title says, what's the expiration term of the Demo account?

Thanks!
  • #7,373
  • May 17, 2011 7:20am May 17, 2011 7:20am
Quoting jleblang
Roughtrader,

Sorry, but I have no way from that post of knowing what your issues with our MT4 is. We have plenty of accounts that run trades all day long on MT4 without issues. Can you be more specific? If it requires that I look at your account number or EA, please provide details in private. What is the issue exactly? If you are trading manually, then why would you want to go back to MT4 if you switched to our Desktop software and aren’t having any problems.

Let me be clear again about MT4. It is almost a decade old. We stripped out all of the...
Thanks for the reply.
I have never used a EA, I allways make my trades manually up to now,
and the bad experience I had has all been with manual trades,
the reason I would want to use MT4 again is that I would use a EA on the acount,
but then I really need to know it's working,
and that I can trust MT4 to do it's thing,
and that you admit there is a problem and are atleast working on it,
you ask me to give you my acount number,
as I wrote I have done so several times without success,
you keep telling me this is only happening to me,
it's not only me, but I am apparantly the only one bringing this issue up
if some more users having the same problem as me SPEAK UP!
we need to so we can fix this problem,
don't let me do this all by my self.
exactly the problems that happends is the standard bucketshop msgs
note that Im NOT saying you are a bucketshop OK,
requotes, " trade desk busy" trade desk out of context"
and a lot of them,
and the worst thing is the software stop to respond to sell orders
even though I restarted the application,
I had to call in many times to let them close my trades,
this did happend on usual trading hours,
and not when you been offline
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #7,374
  • May 17, 2011 8:39am May 17, 2011 8:39am
And what lot sizes are available?
  • #7,375
  • May 17, 2011 10:59am May 17, 2011 10:59am
www.mbtrading.com
Quoting kisdatr
And what lot sizes are available?
  • #7,376
  • May 17, 2011 11:03am May 17, 2011 11:03am
Quoting fiberangel
www.mbtrading.com
I did not see the information posted there, but it might have been overlooked.
  • #7,377
  • May 17, 2011 8:17pm May 17, 2011 8:17pm
Quoting kisdatr
I did not see the information posted there, but it might have been overlooked.
$400 minimum and a micro is minimum size.
  • #7,378
  • Edited 10:16pm May 17, 2011 9:35pm | Edited 10:16pm
Quoting roughtrader
Thanks for the reply.
I have never used a EA, I allways make my trades manually up to now,
and the bad experience I had has all been with manual trades,
the reason I would want to use MT4 again is that I would use a EA on the acount,
but then I really need to know it's working,
and that I can trust MT4 to do it's thing,
and that you admit there is a problem and are atleast working on it,
you ask me to give you my acount number,
as I wrote I have done so several times without success,
you keep telling me this is only happening to me,
it's not only...
Is the other trouble free MT4 broker deal desk?...Because just b/c it gives you no problem, it does not mean that it is deal desk, that is a big assumption. Just b/c MBs MT4 bridge is troublesome, does not necessarily mean that all are, or that a good MT4 implementation has to be always deal desk. Here is one STP MT4 that does not have the issues you are facing. http://www.gomarketsaus.com/metatrader4/
Also, you were absolutely correct in stating that MB did some MT4 coding, as has been admitted, in stripping out the DD functionality. It appears, after all, the it is not all MetaQuotes' fault.
The first step in fixing a problem is acknowledging it. I can understand your frustation at the constant denials of the issues. I for one experienced the same problems of out of trade context that you are getting, but when I posted the cheeleaders stated that it never happened to them. So nothing is fixed b/c the problem is imaginary.
That is the plan, lure you in with MT4 ECN, then try to switch you to Desktop or Desktop pro when you start having issues. Nevermind that you want to have the choice of using EAs at times, just switch out of that awful MT4 LOL to the fabulous Nav that has 24 different order types.
  • #7,379
  • May 18, 2011 8:16am May 18, 2011 8:16am
wwwin, you forgot to mention that gomarketsaus charges no commissions thus marking up the spread. This by definition makes it different from MBT's model and is more in line with other DD that claim to be STP.

Quoting wwwin
Is the other trouble free MT4 broker deal desk?...Because just b/c it gives you no problem, it does not mean that it is deal desk, that is a big assumption. Just b/c MBs MT4 bridge is troublesome, does not necessarily mean that all are, or that a good MT4 implementation has to be always deal desk. Here is one STP MT4 that does not have the issues you are facing. http://www.gomarketsaus.com/metatrader4/
Also, you were absolutely correct in stating that MB did some MT4 coding, as has been admitted, in stripping out the DD functionality....
  • #7,380
  • May 18, 2011 9:47am May 18, 2011 9:47am
Quoting fiberangel
wwwin, you forgot to mention that gomarketsaus charges no commissions thus marking up the spread. This by definition makes it different from MBT's model and is more in line with other DD that claim to be STP.
No commission does not make STP a Deal Desk. The issue is the claim made here that because MT4 has no issues the broker has to be a DD broker. No basis in fact to say that. Commission or no commission does not mean anything, other than they charge more then the spread.
It is either STP or not, "more in line with other DD" means nothing. It is either STP or DD and not charging commssions means nothing with regards to what it is.
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