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  • #15,981
  • Apr 11, 2011 12:49pm Apr 11, 2011 12:49pm
5Μ TRADING

today i made 40 trades on a demo account,i wanted to test a strategy...

crossover bellow kumo, 0,5 lot
in the kumo 1 lot

above kumo 1,5 lot


result:-->that was a total dissapoinment!37 lossing trades,2 brake even and 1 with small profit.

tomorrow i will invert the procedure,i want to see the results of going against the signals.

if i found a strategy that losses 90% of the time mayby if i invert it i will win 90% of the time....
Never again will fade the trend
  • #15,982
  • Apr 12, 2011 9:21am Apr 12, 2011 9:21am
Hi guyz, just want to contribute my study using Ichimoku on GU. Pls visit http://forexichimokutrade.blogspot.com/ for further detail.

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  • #15,983
  • Apr 13, 2011 4:13am Apr 13, 2011 4:13am
I'm wondering if someone could advise me here?
I'm trading a 3 brick renko according to the standard Ichimoku strategy, what I'm unclear about is when to enter the trade according to the position of the Senkou A.
Do I have to wait for the price to align with the Kumo/Senkou A before entering or can I enter as soon as the Senkou A forms, before the price has reached it?
I think another way of saying it would be does the price have to align with the Kumo cross or can I enter as soon as it appears ie: before the price has reached the cross? (I'm making it worse aren't I?!).
I probably didn't explain that very well but hopefully the picture will show what I mean.
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  • #15,984
  • Apr 13, 2011 4:31am Apr 13, 2011 4:31am
Quoting forex1962
I'm wondering if someone could advise me here?
I'm trading a 3 brick renko according to the standard Ichimoku strategy, what I'm unclear about is when to enter the trade according to the position of the Senkou A.
Do I have to wait for the price to align with the Kumo/Senkou A before entering or can I enter as soon as the Senkou A forms, before the price has reached it?
I think another way of saying it would be does the price have to align with the Kumo cross or can I enter as soon as it appears ie: before the price has reached the cross? (I'm...
i think you have the green light.looks like a perfetct setup...no you dont have to wait for the kumo sentiment to change as far as the future kumo is bearish...

but my 2 cents...i am almost sure it will go against you...
looking at the past charts we see what we want to see...we see the big trends and we dont see the green to go setups that didnt worked out..and looking the past you say...what if i had entered there...i woould have made a 1000 pips!but...you would have lost more trying to catch that trend which happens very rarely....

i wish someone will be able to say i am wrong....
Never again will fade the trend
  • #15,985
  • Apr 13, 2011 4:47am Apr 13, 2011 4:47am
Quoting swingfiddle
i think you have the green light.looks like a perfetct setup...no you dont have to wait for the kumo sentiment to change as far as the future kumo is bearish...

but my 2 cents...i am almost sure it will go against you...
looking at the past charts we see what we want to see...we see the big trends and we dont see the green to go setups that didnt worked out..and looking the past you say...what if i had entered there...i woould have made a 1000 pips!but...you would have lost more trying to catch that trend which happens very rarely....

i wish someone...
Thank you swingfiddle, my thoughts exactly, it's always easy to see past charts with 20/20 vision and imagine that's how they'll play out all the time.
Unfortunately, like nearly every strategy I've ever tried, this works great when trending but as soon as the price starts ranging you're going to lose on every trade.
Just to clarify, do we not need to worry abot the Kumo a/b at all or does it have to appear (in 'the future') before we enter?.
  • #15,986
  • Apr 13, 2011 7:06am Apr 13, 2011 7:06am
Quoting forex1962
Thank you swingfiddle, my thoughts exactly, it's always easy to see past charts with 20/20 vision and imagine that's how they'll play out all the time.
Unfortunately, like nearly every strategy I've ever tried, this works great when trending but as soon as the price starts ranging you're going to lose on every trade.
Just to clarify, do we not need to worry abot the Kumo a/b at all or does it have to appear (in 'the future') before we enter?.

if you want to be very correct, the future kumo after 26 periods has to have the sentiment you want to trade...

ps!if you have any succes, share it for the rest of us
good luck!
Never again will fade the trend
  • #15,987
  • Apr 13, 2011 8:14am Apr 13, 2011 8:14am
Have anybody have Munehisa Homma book "Fountain of Gold"?

Cheers,
Seb
  • #15,988
  • Apr 13, 2011 10:08am Apr 13, 2011 10:08am
Quoting forex1962
I'm wondering if someone could advise me here?
I'm trading a 3 brick renko according to the standard Ichimoku strategy, what I'm unclear about is when to enter the trade according to the position of the Senkou A.
Do I have to wait for the price to align with the Kumo/Senkou A before entering or can I enter as soon as the Senkou A forms, before the price has reached it?
I think another way of saying it would be does the price have to align with the Kumo cross or can I enter as soon as it appears ie: before the price has reached the cross? (I'm making...
i prefer to wait for all to align to a direction.

bearish:
ts/ks cross bearish
future kumo bearish
chikou breaks kumo into bearish direction
  • #15,989
  • Apr 13, 2011 12:54pm Apr 13, 2011 12:54pm
Quoting GeraldFX
i prefer to wait for all to align to a direction.

bearish:
ts/ks cross bearish
future kumo bearish
chikou breaks kumo into bearish direction
Thank you GeraldFX
Could you confirm on the attached chart, would a valid antry be on the white line or would I have to wait for the red line.
What I'm trying to say is the price may break, as in this case, when the Kumo is bullish, but I can see on the new Kumo that has formed ahead of the price that it has turned bearish, so could I enter on that signal, seeing that it has turned bearish ahead?
Hope that makes sense!
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  • #15,990
  • Apr 13, 2011 12:55pm Apr 13, 2011 12:55pm
Quoting GeraldFX
i prefer to wait for all to align to a direction.

bearish:
ts/ks cross bearish
future kumo bearish
chikou breaks kumo into bearish direction
with BBmacd and one of my indicator
see screen below
bbmacd ok + break + my indic are ok
always wait for bbMacd :
only take trade long if bbmacd is > 0 and short if <0
kino
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  • #15,991
  • Apr 13, 2011 9:17pm Apr 13, 2011 9:17pm
Quoting forex1962
Thank you GeraldFX
Could you confirm on the attached chart, would a valid antry be on the white line or would I have to wait for the red line.
What I'm trying to say is the price may break, as in this case, when the Kumo is bullish, but I can see on the new Kumo that has formed ahead of the price that it has turned bearish, so could I enter on that signal, seeing that it has turned bearish ahead?
Hope that makes sense!
Enter when the price bounce off the ts. when it bounce off the ts is also when chikou breaks the kumo.
  • #15,992
  • Apr 14, 2011 5:27am Apr 14, 2011 5:27am
hello
i have made a short at the vertical line
but my SL was too close and was hit
my TP at 1.6315 was good
i should have put my SL à 1.6350+2 and not at 1.6348
will make better the next time
because i think this technique is good
kino
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  • #15,993
  • Apr 14, 2011 6:56am Apr 14, 2011 6:56am
This is what I've been looking for............
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  • #15,994
  • Apr 14, 2011 7:24am Apr 14, 2011 7:24am
Quoting forex1962
This is what I've been looking for............
Fingers crossed!
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  • #15,995
  • Apr 14, 2011 7:54am Apr 14, 2011 7:54am
Quoting forex1962
Fingers crossed!

i don't have the same kumo
what are your settings for the kumo ? 9 26 52 ?
(i'dont make short when E50 is below prices)
i have taken a short at vertical line
but closed at +21 pips
kino
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  • #15,996
  • Apr 14, 2011 8:23am Apr 14, 2011 8:23am
Quoting kinonen
i don't have the same kumo
what are your settings for the kumo ? 9 26 52 ?
(i'dont make short when E50 is below prices)
i have taken a short at vertical line
but closed at +21 pips
kino
Kumo @ 9 26 52 renko brick 3, shorted just after eu failed 4500, reentry long on confirmation 4384, please note I'm not sticking to Ichimoku rules, but pa determined these trades.
  • #15,997
  • Apr 14, 2011 8:35am Apr 14, 2011 8:35am
My opinion is here:
Today new trading opportunity that traders can make.
1- At 1H chart, long position when GU above Target Buy Stop and SL when close below Kumo.
2- At 4H chart, short position can be taken when GU H&S pattern completed. SL when GU close above Kumo.

Good luck.
  • #15,998
  • Apr 14, 2011 8:46am Apr 14, 2011 8:46am
Quoting fxready
My opinion is here:
Today new trading opportunity that traders can make.
1- At 1H chart, long position when GU above Target Buy Stop and SL when close below Kumo.
2- At 4H chart, short position can be taken when GU H&S pattern completed. SL when GU close above Kumo.

Good luck.
Fxready full respect to you, but what i like about renko is we can throw away the differnet time charts, just look at 1 and believe in it, maybe I'm wrong, but all I can say is after many losses in forex renko made me profitable.
  • #15,999
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:44am Apr 14, 2011 9:44am
last trade i'have made in live
i take a TP at 16357 because it was the last high known of today
+23

to day -13 +18 +23
kino
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  • #16,000
  • Apr 14, 2011 10:00am Apr 14, 2011 10:00am
Quoting kinonen
last trade i'have made in live
i take a TP at 16357 because it was the last high known of today
+23

to day -13 +18 +23
kino
Kinonen, I've worked this Kumo to death and I've been missing out on so many trades, take a look at this, I've taken 100 pips short and now 60+ pips long on eu just using pa and a few indis and ignoring Kumo am I wrong?
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